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Hey Panzerfaust good stuff. I’ve done the losing weight plus 531 stuff before. Doing anything big, even big asisst lifts, after the meat of your workout is probably too much to handle on a diet of some kind. That’s fine. If you continue much further you might find certian lifts may increase more than you would hope for. Under this situation what I would do is either bodywieght movements or strictly iso movements so I wouldn’t stress myself too much. I often did only the main lift and nothing else in certain situations.

I also see you’ve joined Wendler’s forum. If you have/started a log let me know. I plan to start my own. BTW if your waist had you at unhealthy 14 weeks ago then maybe I can put in an application to deliver gifts to your home and not die of heart attack (barely) in the process with my own waist measurements during christmas haha. The pics in my profile are actually 240 lbs. at 5’6". Fat bro.

Anyway losing weight and gaining strength is a positive process. You will be able to see where you are at now and where to gain mass since that seems to be a goal for you. Kick ass man.

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Wellll… back from the (nearly dead).

If anybody wondered where I was: I have been battling Glandular Fever, or Mononucleosis as you probably call it. [/b]

Turns out I had been training through it without realising it was more than just a simple flu virus… and this culminated in me being admitted to hospital in late September with internal bleeding and overall hell on earth haha. So I guess this explains why I had been feeling a bit dizzy and weak during my training!

Anyway, I was housebound for the last 5 weeks with extreme fatigue to the point where I could barely walk up my stairs without pausing to re-energise. The last 5 weeks has been great for weight loss (91kg to 87.5kg during my time off training) but absolutely shit for my muscles / strength / life. I feel fairly deflated and pathetic at this point. Bright side, I managed to snare a new girlfriend, who has been amazingly supportive through my sickness. Sympathy relationship? I am comfortable with that!

The doctor gave me the “cautious” all clear to slowly ease back into work and exercise from last Friday.

Managed to do a bit of treadmill walking the last three days, and today had my first post-mono training session. I worked up to a record-breaking 60kg x 6 squat and 35 x 6kg OHPress with some chins and DB curls thrown in. Haha. I only came close to passing out once - neato!

Probably going to fuck around with a very basic two day split gentle treadmill walking until I get past this diabolical post-viral fatigue.

I figure since I am light and weak and have a fucked appetite anyway, I may as well focus on less strength oriented goals. I want to get nice and cut for summer and then slowly clean-bulk from a good starting level. Will work out calories once I have a functioning brain, but in the meantime will just try and get active again.

Regards!

PS if anybody has advice regarding coming back from mono, I’d love to hear about your own experiences. I gather it’s less harsh on younger people, but I am 31 so it fucked me up pretty nicely.

Also @Jaynick and @Mikemike, apologies for not replying… I literally haven’t been on this site since I went to hospital.

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hello welcome back!

yes i’ve had mono… what can i say? taking all the vitamin B’s like a mofo seemed to help.

all the regular crap, drink lots of water, vit c, bla bla bla.

i wasn’t tough enough to keep training through it, i ended up taking about 6 weeks off i think. Whenever i would start training again it would just come back worse so eventually i said fuck it all, and stopped training until i was %100 sure it was gone. Not sure if i’d recommend that because it was really hard to get back into training after.

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[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:
hello welcome back!

yes i’ve had mono… what can i say? taking all the vitamin B’s like a mofo seemed to help.

all the regular crap, drink lots of water, vit c, bla bla bla.

i wasn’t tough enough to keep training through it, i ended up taking about 6 weeks off i think. Whenever i would start training again it would just come back worse so eventually i said fuck it all, and stopped training until i was %100 sure it was gone. Not sure if i’d recommend that because it was really hard to get back into training after. [/quote]

Thanks bro!

Yeah I am smashing back Magnesium, a Vit B complex, and eating fruit + raw vegetables like crazy. Appetite is a bit fucked up, still getting in 2 x protein shakes and 600g of meat a day so shouldn’t be atrophying more than I have to.

I guess that is my main misery: feel like I am losing all my hard-earned muscle. I had 4 weeks of near-complete inactivity, and now just 4 days into AM treadmill incline walks.

Yesterday I had my very minimal and light lifting session as detailed above, and as a result today I barely lasted 3 fucking hours at work… had to come home with spinning head and feeling like I was going to pass out. This fatigue is death.

Anyway, I think maybe squatting and BB OHP was too much for my first day back. Trying to come up with some basic dumbbell shit I can do to retain muscle while I battle my way back into existence.

BW: 87.0kg… fark me dead.

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why not try just do 1 lift per session, with long rest periods, until you are recovered. Just do the minimum reps until you are better.

You might not get stronger, but you won’t get weaker.

example. monday- deadlift 5/3/1 min reps, wed, bench press 5/3/1 min reps. etc…

I’m only suggesting that because you want to minimize fatigue and maximize recovery while you are sick and have mono. The minimum reps are enough to retain your strength. Ultimately its up to you of course.

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[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:
why not try just do 1 lift per session, with long rest periods, until you are recovered. Just do the minimum reps until you are better.

You might not get stronger, but you won’t get weaker.

example. monday- deadlift 5/3/1 min reps, wed, bench press 5/3/1 min reps. etc…

I’m only suggesting that because you want to minimize fatigue and maximize recovery while you are sick and have mono. The minimum reps are enough to retain your strength. Ultimately its up to you of course. [/quote]

That’s a good idea man, cheers. I will give it a whirl on Monday and try lifting every second day and see how I hold up. Limiting myself to one lift should help me avoid any meltdowns. Should be enough to at least maintain most of the muscle I have.

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What’s up guys - excuse the lack of updates.

Turns out my “mono” was actually the sign of my body succumbing to Stage 3 Bowel Cancer. It originated from a mystery polyps syndrome, which they are doing testing on now to identify risk factors for family etc. I’ve only just turned 31, so to have something like this is completely crazy.

I got diagnosed on the 15th November and had my operation on the 25th of November. It was very successful, I had the following procedures:

-Partial Gastrectomy (half stomach removed)
-Transverse Colectomy (most of colon removed)
-Small Intestine Re-section

Thankfully I did not require pancreas or spleen removal as they had suspected they were infected. I had a tennis ball sized tumour but it seems higher powers were on my side, and only three (very close) lymph nodes of 24 were infected and the liver, lungs and all other organs were clear.

Recovery was / is a bitch, I have lost a total of 20kg and now weigh in at 76kg. Partly as I could not eat anything but ice cubes for 10 days and was allergic to the naso-gastric feed. I am glad I was fairly big to begin with, or I’d be a total skeletor by now!

But yeah, I have been blessed to have the support of my family and friends, and the amazing medical system in New Zealand. I’m just so pleased they caught it in time.

While my surgeon is 99.9% sure they got all the cancer out, I’ll be needing “cautionary” chemotherapy to clean up any potential rogue cells.

So yeah I am not allowed to lift anything for another 3 weeks, and my diet is a mess because I can only eat small amounts and from a limited range of food. But depending on how chemo goes I hope to be training again within weeks not months. Will probably post in a different section of this forum for advice about getting in calories and training after a long illness.

/Very pleased to be breathing!

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I was wondering where you were. Sorry to hear about that, but very glad that you’re doing okay now. You’ll be picking things up and putting them down soon!

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I’ve never checked into your log before but was following along for a fair bit.

Sorry to hear about your health troubles, incredibly happy for your high spirits and for successfully catching it early!

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I’m really sorry to hear about your illness, all the best with your recovery.

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You’ve got an awesome outlook on things bud. You’re gonna be just fine.

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I wish you all the best buddy.

Get strong soon.

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All the best to you mate, cant keep the strong kiwi down!

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Thanks guys, yeah it was a massive shock particularly when I have felt really strong and healthy the last couple of years, my health just totally collapsed within days. The tumour would apparently have been chewing up my blood proteins and iron stores for a long time, so I’m pretty happy with my progress despite this haha.

I think it is a good example of how awesome training and good nutrition can be, keeping you strong enough to handle serious illness and surgery etc.

Definitely not dark on it - how could I be when I get the opportunity to keep going when so many people don’t?

I’m also secretly blaming the cancer for not quite hitting a 400lb squat yet ;).

Also to anybody out there with mystery symptoms including PR bleeding or fatigue, get that shit checked. I had a colonoscopy a while back, but just recently discovered it was only a “sigmoidoscopy” which doesn’t check the entire system, hence missing the massive tumour I had hiding just around the corner. Mine was discovered through a chest/abdo/pelvis CT scan.

I’ve been healthy, happy and strong for the last years - thankfully my case is rare but they do happen. I would never allow a friend to ignore “odd” symptoms now.

Thanks again - Jay.

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For the not so squeamish… photo of my wound the other day. Nearly healed.

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[quote]panzerfaust wrote:
What’s up guys - excuse the lack of updates.

Turns out my “mono” was actually the sign of my body succumbing to Stage 3 Bowel Cancer. It originated from a mystery polyps syndrome, which they are doing testing on now to identify risk factors for family etc. I’ve only just turned 31, so to have something like this is completely crazy.

I got diagnosed on the 15th November and had my operation on the 25th of November. It was very successful, I had the following procedures:

-Partial Gastrectomy (half stomach removed)
-Transverse Colectomy (most of colon removed)
-Small Intestine Re-section

Thankfully I did not require pancreas or spleen removal as they had suspected they were infected. I had a tennis ball sized tumour but it seems higher powers were on my side, and only three (very close) lymph nodes of 24 were infected and the liver, lungs and all other organs were clear.

Recovery was / is a bitch, I have lost a total of 20kg and now weigh in at 76kg. Partly as I could not eat anything but ice cubes for 10 days and was allergic to the naso-gastric feed. I am glad I was fairly big to begin with, or I’d be a total skeletor by now!

But yeah, I have been blessed to have the support of my family and friends, and the amazing medical system in New Zealand. I’m just so pleased they caught it in time.

While my surgeon is 99.9% sure they got all the cancer out, I’ll be needing “cautionary” chemotherapy to clean up any potential rogue cells.

So yeah I am not allowed to lift anything for another 3 weeks, and my diet is a mess because I can only eat small amounts and from a limited range of food. But depending on how chemo goes I hope to be training again within weeks not months. Will probably post in a different section of this forum for advice about getting in calories and training after a long illness.

/Very pleased to be breathing![/quote]
Wow! I hope it is all sorted out, and you will definitely bounce back after chemo is done.

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[quote]conjugatedftw wrote:

Wow! I hope it is all sorted out, and you will definitely bounce back after chemo is done. [/quote]

Yeah the chemo is just precautionary as an extra insurance against rogue cells. I was lucky enough to get the best surgeon in my part of the world, and he’s 99.9% certain they got all infected tissue with the operation itself.
Chemo won’t be fun, but apparently this type shouldn’t prohibit me from training to some extent.
Hoping muscle memory serves me well! Haha

Cheers,
Jay

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Looks like you’re dealing with it all really well man. Funny how people let tiny things break their world while you’re laughing about this. Thanks for the instagrammed cock/wound shot

anyways, now you can be John Meadows 2.0. I know he has most of his colon removed and is doing pretty well.

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Looks like you’re dealing with it all really well man. Funny how people let tiny things break their world while you’re laughing about this. Thanks for the instagrammed cock/wound shot

anyways, now you can be John Meadows 2.0. I know he has most of his colon removed and is doing pretty well. [/quote]

Thanks bro, negativity is pretty useless huh?
I have certainly had some MAJOR perspective put into my life / world view over the last few weeks. All good stuff, too. Like appreciating people more, and being thankful for the opportunities I have.

Haha glad you enjoyed my sexy photo. I’ve been grossing my friends out with my wound photos recently; had a sweet infection so some of the pics are juicy as.

Yeah man, just started reading some John Meadows nutrition articles, pretty awesome stuff! He has had his entire colon removed, where I still have part of mine… so no excuses haha.

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All the best, man! I’m really inspired by your iron will and hope to see reports of your training again soon. In the meantime, take it easy and best of luck! Keep us posted.