Panzerfaust vs 2012 - 531 Full Body

[quote]panzerfaust wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
Great to see you hitting the weights again man :slight_smile:

  • congrats on the weight gain :)[/quote]
    Thanks dude, I’m happy to be back into it. Injuries are very depressing! I’m going to ease up on the pull ups and do mostly chin ups, as I have a feeling the overhand stuff strains my shoulders more. I don’t see any other reason why I would have got that strain, as I haven’t had one for nearly 1 year.
    Haha yeah I have increased my carb and fat intake a fair bit to try and get some weight on my frame again. Was starting to feel too light before.[/quote]

I can see that injuries can be depressing dude, but thus look like you have healed up :slight_smile:

Regarding chins vs pullups: I am actually considering the same thing since I feel I get better contact with chin ups vs pullups. I do also get some slight shoulder discomfort from both variation, but thats mostly in the bottom. Hopefully its nothing bad in the horizon.

[video]2393[/video]
Vid from Monday. Yesterday’s workout and clip will be up later

Phase 2/Cycle 3/Week 1/Day 2

WEDNESDAY 07.06.2012

Squat (full body training)
3 x 105
3 x 120
3 x 132.5kg

Close Grip Bench (5/5/x)
5 x 60
5 x 70
10 x 77.5kg

Dumbbell Row
10 x 25
10 x 30
12 x 35kg

Chins
8

NOTES:

-Bare bones as. No extras between sets today.

-Felt pretty good today; happy with my benching and the squats felt reasonably easy.

-The injury rest has done me some good.

[video]2394[/video]

Nice to see a 5 3 1, where weights are in KG.
Happy with the fullbody training?

[quote]Backbone wrote:
Nice to see a 5 3 1, where weights are in KG.
Happy with the fullbody training?[/quote]
Hey Backbone - where do you hail from?
KG ftw.

Yeah I really enjoy the fullbody training. Was going great for the first 4 months but I had some insomnia/injury issues which have fucked up the last couple of cycles for me, though I’ve still hit the required reps. Seem to be back into it now though, and looking forward to the rest of this cycle.

Are you considering trying it?

My notes so far:
-don’t add in too much extra work
-dietary changes will have a huge impact
-do deadlift singles
-don’t drop phone on floor, breaking sound recording function, meaning you have to use a shitty video editor to add music, and a stupid watermark in the middle of your clips

[quote]panzerfaust wrote:

[quote]Backbone wrote:
Nice to see a 5 3 1, where weights are in KG.
Happy with the fullbody training?[/quote]
Hey Backbone - where do you hail from?
KG ftw.

Yeah I really enjoy the fullbody training. Was going great for the first 4 months but I had some insomnia/injury issues which have fucked up the last couple of cycles for me, though I’ve still hit the required reps. Seem to be back into it now though, and looking forward to the rest of this cycle.

Are you considering trying it?

My notes so far:
-don’t add in too much extra work
-dietary changes will have a huge impact
-do deadlift singles
-don’t drop phone on floor, breaking sound recording function, meaning you have to use a shitty video editor to add music, and a stupid watermark in the middle of your clips[/quote]

Im from Denmark. Yeah have considered it but now my setup is this:

sq 5 3 1
GM 5 x 10
Military 5 3 1
Military 5 x 10
Rear delt 3 x 10
Hiptrusters 5 x 10
Weighted crunches 5 x 10

Bench Press 5 3 1
Bench Press 5 x 10
Yates Row 5 x 10
JM press 5 x 10
Incline db curls 5 x 10

Hang Power clean 5 3 1
Deadlift 5 3 1
Frontsquat 5 x 10
Kroc Rows 2 set wup+ 1 max set
The plank 3 sets of 45 sec.

Unfortunately I only manage training 3 days a week(we got our 4.th child on the 18/4, and the other 3 are quite young yet), and i spend time riding MTB in a small club of insane people here. So that is all i manage.And only because i have a home gym.

I could imagine one could easily load to many exercises int the fullbody template, its allways a danger.
Well the foodintake is crucial to all programmes, I dont know if it is superstition, but i allway have a great workout after eating Wok with chicken andr rice and a lot of veggies.
Deadlift singles are great, better focus on the form i think. Have you ever done a Dough Hepburn programe. Many of them consist of 5 x 5 work+ 5-10 singles. That is nasty productive shit.

Good training, will follow your log.

Phase 2/Cycle 3/Week 1/Day 3

FRIDAY 08.06.2012

Squat FBT
3 x 105
3 x 120
3 x 132.5 kg

OH Press 5/5/x
5 x 45
5 x 52.5
6 x 60 kg (rep PR)

Deadlift (3/3/3 for Powerlifting)
3 x 125
3 x 145
3 x 162.5
1 x 185 kg

Chin Ups
10

Notes:
-OHP felt pretty good. I concentrated on arching my lower back, which I had never really done before. It seemed to help me ā€œdrive throughā€ as it cleared my forehead.

-Just pulled a 90% single on my deadlift today. The 162.5 pulls felt nice and quick; should be heading for a PR quite soon I’d say.

congrats on press PR man and 6x60kg is strong in my book :slight_smile:

Keep it uppah!

Cheers man! I thought my Press would be shit after 10 days off, but it was fine.

[video]2395[/video]

Phase 2/Cycle 3/Week 2/Day 1

MONDAY 11.06.2012

Squat 3/3/x
3 x 105
3 x 120
6 x 132.5kg

Good Morning
60kg x 10
60kg x 10
60kg x 10

Dips
10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 5, 6, 3 (50 total)

Chins
8

NOTES:

-I was pretty happy with my lifting today. My lower back was really fried for some reason; perhaps too much Diablo 3. But I hit the reps I was aiming for.

-The dips were killer!!!

[video]2396[/video]

[quote]Backbone wrote:

[quote]panzerfaust wrote:

[quote]Backbone wrote:
Nice to see a 5 3 1, where weights are in KG.
Happy with the fullbody training?[/quote]
Hey Backbone - where do you hail from?
KG ftw.

Yeah I really enjoy the fullbody training. Was going great for the first 4 months but I had some insomnia/injury issues which have fucked up the last couple of cycles for me, though I’ve still hit the required reps. Seem to be back into it now though, and looking forward to the rest of this cycle.

Are you considering trying it?

My notes so far:
-don’t add in too much extra work
-dietary changes will have a huge impact
-do deadlift singles
-don’t drop phone on floor, breaking sound recording function, meaning you have to use a shitty video editor to add music, and a stupid watermark in the middle of your clips[/quote]

Im from Denmark. Yeah have considered it but now my setup is this:

sq 5 3 1
GM 5 x 10
Military 5 3 1
Military 5 x 10
Rear delt 3 x 10
Hiptrusters 5 x 10
Weighted crunches 5 x 10

Bench Press 5 3 1
Bench Press 5 x 10
Yates Row 5 x 10
JM press 5 x 10
Incline db curls 5 x 10

Hang Power clean 5 3 1
Deadlift 5 3 1
Frontsquat 5 x 10
Kroc Rows 2 set wup+ 1 max set
The plank 3 sets of 45 sec.

Unfortunately I only manage training 3 days a week(we got our 4.th child on the 18/4, and the other 3 are quite young yet), and i spend time riding MTB in a small club of insane people here. So that is all i manage.And only because i have a home gym.

I could imagine one could easily load to many exercises int the fullbody template, its allways a danger.
Well the foodintake is crucial to all programmes, I dont know if it is superstition, but i allway have a great workout after eating Wok with chicken andr rice and a lot of veggies.
Deadlift singles are great, better focus on the form i think. Have you ever done a Dough Hepburn programe. Many of them consist of 5 x 5 work+ 5-10 singles. That is nasty productive shit.

Good training, will follow your log.
[/quote]
Thanks dude, and I like your training scheme. You must have great energy reserves to get through such an impressive amount of volume in your training day! How long do your sessions last?

Also what kind of reps do you tend to hit on your hang power cleans? I need to add them in for Phase 4, which I will be hitting around November; but I have never trained any oly lifts for max reps before. I was assuming to train them more as short-rest singles than actual sets, as I have trouble keeping my form tight.

Congrats on extending your clan! And 3 times a week training is what I do with the Full Body Template, and it seems adequate.

I’ve never researched Hepburn or used his methods - did they work for you? I’m sticking with this program for the rest of 2012, but next year I will change it up so I will be looking for new options.

And yes nutrition is important to any training of course! I didn’t really explain the context; I switched to ā€œcarb back loadingā€ for two months, while keeping a similar total caloric intake. My lifts seemed to suffer quite badly, perhaps my body didn’t like the adjusted meal timing. Either way, I am back to my normal eating now and I am piling the weight (and fat) back on haha.

Cheers! =)

Random log comment:

I’m sick of having a relatively pitiful bench, so I have set myself a short-term goal of becoming stronger at this lift than my flatmate.

His is 250lb/115kg so not too far from mine at 230lb/105kg. He’s two inches shorter than me, and 6 kgs heavier.

The 50-rep dips I am doing every Monday as my ā€œpushā€ exercise will help. As will increasing my weight, which is going pretty well.

I was reading wendler.com q&a today and saw a little mod Jim suggested:

ā€œ? Perform the bench press sets as written, then repeat the first set again, but go all out on this set, too.ā€

…so I will also try this for the next couple of cycles and see how it goes. I will re-test my max in say 5 weeks, and see if I can get 117.5kgs. I don’t know how realistic this is, but in reality at 91kgs and with only a 105kg bench I should be able to make ā€œn00b gainsā€ with correct programming and heaps of eating. If anyone has any hints or reality checks or whatever, please feel free to throw them my way.

How long is it since you maxed 105kg? ( if it is long ago, you might have gotten stronger allready )

[quote]florelius wrote:
How long is it since you maxed 105kg? ( if it is long ago, you might have gotten stronger allready )

[/quote]
9 weeks ago was when I close-grip benched 105kgs. You could be right, perhaps I should test my bench 1RM next week (5/3/1 week) and set the target from there.

[quote]panzerfaust wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
How long is it since you maxed 105kg? ( if it is long ago, you might have gotten stronger allready )

[/quote]
9 weeks ago was when I close-grip benched 105kgs. You could be right, perhaps I should test my bench 1RM next week (5/3/1 week) and set the target from there.[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea :slight_smile:

Ps. What is the highest estimated max you have gotten during those 9 weeks?

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]panzerfaust wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
How long is it since you maxed 105kg? ( if it is long ago, you might have gotten stronger allready )

[/quote]
9 weeks ago was when I close-grip benched 105kgs. You could be right, perhaps I should test my bench 1RM next week (5/3/1 week) and set the target from there.[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea :slight_smile:

Ps. What is the highest estimated max you have gotten during those 9 weeks?[/quote]
Hey, that’s a great question.

Ok, in the weeks before and after my 105kg max:

MP: 69
BP: 102
MP: 70
BP: 104
MP: 71
BP: 101
MP: 71
BP: 105 Tested 1 Rep Max <-----
MP: 71
BP: 101
MP: 71
BP: 104
MP: 70
BP: 102
MP: 69
(break due to injury)
BP: 103 (last week)
MP: 72 (last week)
BP: 110 (this week)

…So it looks like my MP and BP closely relate in terms of strength, as Mr Wendler often points out. I feel optimistic that my MP was at an all-time high last week, and my bench was decent. So we will see what numbers I get this week, and that will give some idea of what to expect for my testing. Interesting.

Phase 2/Cycle 3/Week 2/Day 2

WEDNESDAY 13.06.2012

Squat (full body training)
3 x 105
3 x 120
3 x 132.5kg

Close Grip Bench (3/3/x)
3 x 65
3 x 75
10 x 82.5kg (rep PR)
12 x 65kg

Dumbbell Row
10 x 25
10 x 30
10 x 40kg

Chins
8

NOTES:

-Really happy with my benching, and the extra fail set felt good too. Triceps were still sore from Monday’s dips haha.

Good bench panzer, congrats with a rep PR :slight_smile:

Your estimated max are now: 109,9kg :slight_smile:

Hey long time,

is the sleep getting any better?

Looks like your squats have really been making progress (which if i remember was one of the main things you wanted out of the full body template), keep it up!

You know 6 months ago i figured I’d have that bodyweight OH press by now, lol. (time to smash some roids)
Mostly i’m just focusing on getting my strength and size back to where it was after cardio-ing myself to death for the last few months.