[quote]Fezzik wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
Come on people. Facepulls, cleans, lateral raises??? Really. We’re talking about building the traps. The traps need to be stimulated with as much weight as possible. Big weight for high reps with a deep stretch and strong contraction. Nothing comes close to the isolation that shrugging allows.
I read the original post as the OP wanting to do shrugs but they are painful for him. When you have an injury it’s nice to have a few options to try and work around your injury. Getting the back healthy takes priority over traps every day.
But for a healthy back, I never had bigger gains in my upper back than when I was doing a lot of cleans. Though, I have never tried seated cleans.[/quote]
Standing shrugs are completely different than shrugs while laying on a bench when it comes to spinal compression. Lateral raises are dogshit compared to them. Facepulls are going to hit the posterior delts and rhomboids much more than the traps. And no one with a back is going to be cleaning enough weight to stimulate the traps. Sometimes too much variety stifles progress.