I enjoyed that fight very much. Pacman is a beast.
I was wrong…period! I wasnt sure before this because leading upto now manny’s last 2 opponents(old delahoya, avg hatton) were iffy, but this cements it to me.Pac will go down as 1 of the all time greats.Win or lose to mayweather, this guy is a phenomenal athlete who i severely underestimated.
he is one of those rare athletes who come along and dominate. i said a lot of shit that i cant take back… and what ever i was wrong, just glad to debate and discuss boxing with u shitheads. Cant wait to hear all the floyd bashing once they sign-on for that fight. I will be talking big shit for my boy when the time comes.
^^ nice of you to man up.
gayweather won’t fight pacman. cotto’s five times stronger than him yet pac eat 'em all punches up. i see lotsa running around when gay fights pac.
[quote]lott42 wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
Anthony50 wrote:
TKO
I know you saw Manny give two legit knockdowns to a Cotto that hasn’t ever really been hurt before.
I was just hoping that Cotto would stop running for 6 rounds and Pacman could get a KO. A TKO was good enough.
I was pretty damn impressed with Manny, even though I thought he was in trouble early.
Now i’m waiting for FightinIrish to give him some credit, and hopefully say he was “supremely impressed” with tonight’s performance.
they were legit knockdowns, but they were flash knockdowns.
First was a flash knockdown, thought he lost his balance for a second. The second knockdown was legit, perfect uppercut.[/quote]
he was up before the ref even started counting, he only had to take a mandatory 8 count. i give manny credit for knocking him down, but they were very brief and he didn’t even take the 8 count on a knee or anything. what manny did to cotto is about like when you get hit behind the ear; you lose your legs for a second.
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
I was wrong…period! I wasnt sure before this because leading upto now manny’s last 2 opponents(old delahoya, avg hatton) were iffy, but this cements it to me.Pac will go down as 1 of the all time greats.Win or lose to mayweather, this guy is a phenomenal athlete who i severely underestimated.
he is one of those rare athletes who come along and dominate. i said a lot of shit that i cant take back… and what ever i was wrong, just glad to debate and discuss boxing with u shitheads. Cant wait to hear all the floyd bashing once they sign-on for that fight. I will be talking big shit for my boy when the time comes.[/quote]
the only reason i had Cotto winning by UD is because he’s much more accomplished at welterweight. i hope he can turn his career around, he’s a great guy. i’d suggest going back to evangelista or finding a new trainer period.one thing i’ve really taken from this fight is that Manny needs to give Roach a raise, he made a phenomenal strategy… that or if Roach asks him to fire the assistant he’ll just fire the assistant out of respect lol.
i always talk shit about fights, only to the polarized though :). a lot of people have only started liking Manny after the de la hoya fight too, it’s fun the make them mad.
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
lott42 wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
Anthony50 wrote:
TKO
I know you saw Manny give two legit knockdowns to a Cotto that hasn’t ever really been hurt before.
I was just hoping that Cotto would stop running for 6 rounds and Pacman could get a KO. A TKO was good enough.
I was pretty damn impressed with Manny, even though I thought he was in trouble early.
Now i’m waiting for FightinIrish to give him some credit, and hopefully say he was “supremely impressed” with tonight’s performance.
they were legit knockdowns, but they were flash knockdowns.
First was a flash knockdown, thought he lost his balance for a second. The second knockdown was legit, perfect uppercut.
he was up before the ref even started counting, he only had to take a mandatory 8 count. i give manny credit for knocking him down, but they were very brief and he didn’t even take the 8 count on a knee or anything. what manny did to cotto is about like when you get hit behind the ear; you lose your legs for a second.[/quote]
Yea he got up before the ref started counting, but if you saw him he wasn’t all there unlike the 1st knockdown where he went back to banging. He was hurt.
Manny is unbelievable. I was rooting for Cotto but thought Manny would win, although I thought it would go to decision. By the 4th or 5th round, Cotto had no right hand, was he so worried about Manny’s left that he wasn’t willing to throw his own right?
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Manny is unbelievable. I was rooting for Cotto but thought Manny would win, although I thought it would go to decision. By the 4th or 5th round, Cotto had no right hand, was he so worried about Manny’s left that he wasn’t willing to throw his own right?[/quote]
Once he quit using his jab and dictating the fight it was over.
I can’t really say what Cotto’s problem was, I honestly don’t know. I think a big problem was his corner though, he really got no advice other than “jab” or “keep doing what you’re doing”. What most impressed me with Manny is how he paced himself the entire fight.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Very good performance by Pacquiao. He definitely proved me wrong- I didn’t think that 1) he could take a punch from a full welterweight and 2) he could really bring his power to 147.
Although he doesn’t have that one punch knockout power he had at the lighter weights, he throws so many punches and is so fast that it doesn’t really matter. The angles he throws from are very unorthodox and make it that much harder. He makes up for his lack of size with speed and skill, something that you rarely see.
I had thought that this fight would turn into Cotto-Margarito, but with Cotto stalking Pac in the late rounds. The opposite happened though, and he really seemed to shrug off Cotto’s best hits- and he hit him flush numerous times, especially with that stiff jab.
The first knock down was a flash knockdown, but the second was very legitmate. He hurt Cotto very severely on that uppercut.
I don’t know where he goes from here. I don’t see a point to him returning to 140- aside from Hatton, there’s no real compeitor there. I don’t know if he wants to continue to campaign at 147… it appears he can do it though.
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I think its time to put the PacMan up there with the ALL TIME GREATS. Dude is a beast, PERIOD.
This guy is getting better as he ages and moves up in weight.
And to quote Pac, “I pretended his punches didn’t hurt. But they did”. The guy is an AMAZING boxer and words can’t describe how fuckin talented he is. Did you see him FLAT OUT TAKE PUNCHES? Dude is amazing.
Pacquiao vs Mayweather in 2010.
People are saying he’s in the teens now.