Remember the story of those Yale kids who ‘raped’ a stripper a few years back.
bitches fucking suck.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Remember the story of those Yale kids who ‘raped’ a stripper a few years back.
bitches fucking suck. [/quote]
Or the Duke lacrosse case? I remember this one because on the kids was from Jersey.
Edit: I think we might be talking about the same case. Didn’t realize that when I posted.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
verdant wrote:
Professor X wrote:
verdant wrote:
Millions of people in the USA play football. Many of them dream of being pros. They look at professional football players as role-models, often trying to model their playing style. Likewise, millions of people watch professional football. Sometimes, they even look at their favorite players as heroes. They look forward to watching them play. Do I think that THIS is a problem? No, I don’t. Do I have a problem with a professional having less self control then a 2 year old? Yes, I do. Pacman should grow up. He claims he really wants to get back on a team to work in the only profession that he knows. If this is true, he should stop proving to the public that he is a PR train-wreck and among the least professional athletes ever.
He dropped money on a stripper stage. Do you really think going to strip clubs is wrong? I agree that dropping thousands on a stage in public just to show how much money you have is childish…much like many guys in their 20’s would act if they had enough cash. How does this action in itself mean someone should be kept off a pro team? Should you have to stay at home and become a hermit to appease the mighty crowd of onlookers? He’s a young guy with tons of cash…so he acted like it.
If he actually hit a girl, then yes, that is wrong. But what else are you upset about specifically?[/quote]
As a professional, who mind you, claims that he will do anything to play football again, Pacman needs to understand that he is in a new category now. If a CEO of a major company was to go to a strip club, and be seen on tape makin it rain, don’t you think someone might think that was of poor taste?
Add to that the fact, that right after the strip-club someone got shot for reasons that may or may not have been linked to the CEO’s actions (even when we assume innocence until proven guilty). Wouldn’t that get the CEO fired? After that, wouldn’t the CEO have a pretty difficult time getting an upper level manager position in a new company? Why, because its not professional. Keep it on the downlow. Do these things privately. Or at least don’t flash it in front of the camera.
I guess what infuriates me the most is the hypocrisy. Pacman got fired because he’s a PR mess. He knows this, but he continues to prove everyone right even though he claims he will do anything to get back in the NFL. He’s still talented enough to contribute. If he really wanted to get back in then he’d stay at home and sacrifice “making it rain” in order to play. Its as simple as that. I am upset because he’s a hypocrite.
[quote]adamhum wrote:
Should they not be retarded?
- Adam[/quote]
I’ve met a few, and I am not to sure many are above “retarded.”
[quote]Professor X wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:
These pro athletes know they’re in the public eye at all times. I don’t think it’s wrong to go in strip clubs, I’ve been to plenty myself. But if you’re famous and PR is an important aspect of your career, you’ve got to be an idiot to go out making a spectacle of yourself thinking it has no consequences. A rap star or rock star can get away with it. Athletes can’t. Small price to pay when you’re making millions a year doing what you love.
Anything they do will become a spectacle. Do you think an NFL player can even walk into a club like that without suddenly being the center of attention? It is things like that which make me question whether any girl actually got hit…because every stripper in there is looking for a free ride. You could accidentally bump into one and they will sue you for 15 grand. At some point you should be able to enjoy yourself in public no matter how much money you make…AND THERE WAS NO CRIME IN DROPPING HIS OWN MONEY ON A STAGE. We can argue how mature that act is, but it isn’t worthy of being kicked off a pro team.[/quote]
I agree. I can’t believe all the people bitching about how these people SHOULD or SHOULD NOT behave. It’s a free market economy, and some people are making a killing in it because, well, that’s how the free market works. As long as it’s not illegal, these people should feel free to do whatever the f*ck they want to do.
[quote]G87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:
These pro athletes know they’re in the public eye at all times. I don’t think it’s wrong to go in strip clubs, I’ve been to plenty myself. But if you’re famous and PR is an important aspect of your career, you’ve got to be an idiot to go out making a spectacle of yourself thinking it has no consequences. A rap star or rock star can get away with it. Athletes can’t. Small price to pay when you’re making millions a year doing what you love.
Anything they do will become a spectacle. Do you think an NFL player can even walk into a club like that without suddenly being the center of attention? It is things like that which make me question whether any girl actually got hit…because every stripper in there is looking for a free ride. You could accidentally bump into one and they will sue you for 15 grand. At some point you should be able to enjoy yourself in public no matter how much money you make…AND THERE WAS NO CRIME IN DROPPING HIS OWN MONEY ON A STAGE. We can argue how mature that act is, but it isn’t worthy of being kicked off a pro team.
I agree. I can’t believe all the people bitching about how these people SHOULD or SHOULD NOT behave. It’s a free market economy, and some people are making a killing in it because, well, that’s how the free market works. As long as it’s not illegal, these people should feel free to do whatever the f*ck they want to do. [/quote]
Yes, they should be free to do whatever they want. It’s a free country. But they better be willing to accept the consequences which in many cases could be the loss of their career.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What really gets me are those who act like because they make millions, they should HAVE to deal with zero privacy and zero ability to do anything normal people do all day long without being sued for it. It sounds like jealousy more than any moral outrage.
The average joe can reach for a beer, accidentally bump the girl in front of him and all she will say is, “oops” or at the most, “hey…I’m standing here!”. If the average NFL player who is well known does it, he will be in court by Tuesday which means their only safe haven is to simply stay at home all of the fucking time to avoid the public.
Why does celebrity equal isolation just to make the general public happy?
From the looks of things, NOTHING makes the general public happy. If you drop your own money on a stage for strippers, you get corny newscasters acting like “making it rain” is some cult ritual that hood rat witches came up with.[/quote]
Depends on the celebrity. Some actors, professional atheletes etc. do their work, and then return to their private lives, shunning the spotlight. Robert DeNiro is famous for not giving interviews, or making the rounds of talk shows. He does his work and goes home. He deserves his privacy.
Someone like Pacman Jones, or Terrel Owens on the other hand, isn’t just a fuck-up. They crave attention like the class clowns they are, so they have to deal with the good and the bad. Personally I don’t give a fuck about them, but if they want to be in the spotlight then they have to be ready to be under the microscope.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Remember the story of those Yale kids who ‘raped’ a stripper a few years back.
bitches fucking suck.
Or the Duke lacrosse case? I remember this one because on the kids was from Jersey.
Edit: I think we might be talking about the same case. Didn’t realize that when I posted.[/quote]
yea, my bad i thought they were from Yale.
The NFL’s take on morality…
Dressing girls up in boots, hot pants, and a top the size of a bandanna and making them dance for a bunch of drunk guys inside a football stadium = ok
BUT
if you dare fucking think about dropping a thousand dollars in one dollar bills on a stripper who is ironically not far off from how a cheerleader dresses, well then your ass is grass.
people are so fucking retarded/hypocritical it’s not even funny, it’s just sad.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
The NFL’s take on morality…
Dressing girls up in boots, hot pants, and a top the size of a bandanna and making them dance for a bunch of drunk guys inside a football stadium = ok
BUT
if you dare fucking think about dropping a thousand dollars in one dollar bills on a stripper who is ironically not far off from how a cheerleader dresses, well then your ass is grass.
people are so fucking retarded/hypocritical it’s not even funny, it’s just sad.[/quote]
Agreed.
You would think people go to Hooters for the fucking wings the way some people talk.
There’s food at Hooters?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
There’s food at Hooters?[/quote]
Fish.