Outlaw Country Music

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[quote]swivel wrote:
Chad Waterbury wrote:

Oh man, I knew I’d forget someone - Billy Joe! Damn, that guy is incredible. I don’t know what’s better: his singing or his songwriting. Actually, BJ just might’ve passed Kris in the songwriting category. I got to meet BJ when he came to town last summer. Now he’s the perfect example of someone who doesn’t care about the money, just the music. I saw him in a little bar downtown. The bar was so small that I was about 4 feet from him throughout the show. It’s just a shame about his son because his current lead guitarist kinda blows. His son, on the other hand, could exchange licks with Stevie Ray.

Hank III too slick? Have you heard his “Lovesick, Broke and Driftin’” CD? That’s about as raw as it gets. In fact, he recorded it in his basement on a little 4 track (if I remember right).

i hear you chad , “slick” is not the right word…maybe it’s the mixing…aah shit i don’t know yet what i mean…

eddy shaver ? he was at the show i saw, just him and bj w/ acoustics . that cat is awesome !! what happenend to him ? please don’t tell me he died …[/quote]

Okay, I won’t tell you that he died. But I will tell you that he had a heroin overdose and he’s no longer with us.

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[quote]kayoneill wrote:
I’ll add a few:

James “Slim” Hand. Not well known out of Austin, much akin to Hank Sr.

Big Don Walser. Now retired. You might heard him in the CD to The Horse Whisper. Fine ole boy preserving true Texas music.

Ray Wylie Hubbard. At 40 Ray declared the party over, got clean and sober from cocaine and whiskey - with coaching from SRV - learned Travis finger picking - and has become a major singer/songwriter. Amazing repetroire.

Marcia Ball. In a league of her own. Former owner of La Zona Rosa. Big time blues pianist/singer.

Steve Earle, Houston’s bad boy, protoge of Townes van Zandt.

Townes van Zandt, greatest singer/songwriter of the 20th century. So great you don’t know him - but you know his songs through covers. Pancho & Lefty.

James McMurtry. real outlaw singer/songwriter. James McMurtry’s son, the famous writer.

Robert Earl Keen - of Bandera.

Charlie Robison, a real cowboy and hell raiser, married to Emily of the Dixie Chicks. His family been cattle ranching in Bandera since the 1840s.

Bruce Robison, Charlie’s brother, married to Kelly Willis. all singer/songwriters, all damned good.

Rosie Flores - she brings Lefty Frizzell to new life and meaning. and others.

Butch Hancock - if you ain’t heard butch, you ain’t heard much. Absolutely pales Bob Dylan. One of the Flatlanders along with Jimmie Dale Gilmore & Joe Ely.

Gurf Morlix - lives up on Lake Travis, with studio in house. Aside from his own sound, produced Lucinda Williams, produces Ray Wylie Hubbard and many others.

Asleep at the Wheel - Ray Benson & others. Keeping Bob Wills sound alive, often at the Spoke. So is coach Royal.

Alvin Crow - aint no finer fiddler, and former guitarist/singer with Doug Sahm. His treatment of Buddy Holly is exceptional, no doubt due to being also from Lubbock.

No treatment of Texas outlaws is complete without mention of the only musician who the city of Austin put up a big memorial statue of next to Town Lake - Stevie Ray Vaughan.

I humbly apologize for all the one’s I’ve forgotten or missed. Austin is just too rich a place with musicians.
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For those of you who aren’t familiar with the fella who posted this, all I can say is this: don’t challenge his knowledge!

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stevie ray is some shit man and has anybody checked out jimmy vaughn’s recent albums ? i can’t get enough of him. that guy is smooooth. also i don’t know if he’s outlaw or mainstream but i really like marty robbins too.

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thanks to you I found some awesome songs…
I never thougt that I could listen to country.

Please keep on adding names.

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[quote]swivel wrote:
stevie ray is some shit man and has anybody checked out jimmy vaughn’s recent albums ? i can’t get enough of him. that guy is smooooth. also i don’t know if he’s outlaw or mainstream but i really like marty robbins too. [/quote]

Marty Robbins is in the category of legend. Awesome voice and wrote some great stuff. Had some of the greatest western ballads of all times, El Paso especially.

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[quote]swivel wrote:
stevie ray is some shit man and has anybody checked out jimmy vaughn’s recent albums ?[/quote]

If you like SRV - listen to some Kenny Wayne Sheppard. The kid can freakin play.

He opened for ZZ Top a couple of years ago in Dallas and I thought he stole the show.

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[quote]ecke2 wrote:
thanks to you I found some awesome songs…
I never thougt that I could listen to country.

Please keep on adding names. [/quote]

I agree, this really was a great way to flesh out the kind of music I want to hear.

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[quote]Chad Waterbury wrote:
swivel wrote:
Chad Waterbury wrote:
eddy shaver ? he was at the show i saw, just him and bj w/ acoustics . that cat is awesome !! what happenend to him ? please don’t tell me he died …

Okay, I won’t tell you that he died. But I will tell you that he had a heroin overdose and he’s no longer with us.
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According to Billy Joe Shavers autobiography “Honkytonk Heroes” (a damn good read, lots of good stories about Nashville and the busines in general) Eddie died from injuries as well as drugs. Billy Joe thinks he was beaten to death by a drug dealer, whole circumstance was shady. Johnny Cash’s daughter, Rosie was involved somehow as well.

Anyone whos a fan of country music, esp. Texas Music needs to read that book.

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Want to add a name, Bryan Duckworth. If you’re a fan of good Texas fiddle music, his first CD, “Duckworths Moodswing” was excellent. Some great tracks.

Duckworth was REK’s fiddle player for years, now owns a violin and music shop in New Braunfels.

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I am just going to say from the start that I am 20, so please excuse my youthful ignorance.

Some names not yet mentioned that I enjoy:

Trent Summar and the New Row Mob - Ok, so these guys released one CD to my knowledge and nothing else. The best way to describe their sound is punk-country with funky keyboards. Not much depth to the material, but its fun.

Steve Ripley - This dude was (is?) the lead singer of the tractors. His new CD is Ripley. I played this while my pop and I were driving through Western Nebraska, ie. the most boring area of the USA.

Jerry Jeff Walker - Ok, you guys all know about him. I actually found out about him from his son’s song Texas on My Mind… just getting into Jerry Jeff, but I think he’s great.

Ok… now some stuff that is more mainstream that you guys might hate me for:

Dwight Yoakam - Dwight is my absolute favortie artist of all time. Best live show I have ever seen - 17,000 people and he says, “Now this is pretty honky-tonk… I dont know if you guys will like it” and then goes on to play three slow heartache songs… this was when he was OPENING for Brooks and Dunn… WHICH IS THE MOST ASS BACKWARDS THING OF ALL TIME. For his new albulm, Does it Show and Lucky that Way are pretty damn cool.

Gary Allan - Ok I probably will get some heat for this one, but I am from California and I stick with my boys. Listen to the songs Alright Guy and Guys Like Me if you think he’s a pussy. Plus, he has the freshest sound on Country Radio… no contest.

Ok, now Charlie Robison, DAC, CCR, Willy, Shooter, Hank and Hank Jr., Waylon (my favortie behind Dwight), Steve Earle, the Possum, and Cash are all great. But there has been no mention of women, and there is one who stand above all others:

Patsy Cline.

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I’ve been listenign to Dwight since 'Guitars Cadillacs, etc." came out in the 80’s. Guy has done some awesome stuff, best album I think was “If there was a way”, no bad tracks on that album, but all of his stuff has been solid.

Brian Burns, a texas artist, is very good, did an album called “The Eagle and The Snake: Songs of the Texians.” Is an album that takes you musically through the history of Texas, some excellent songs.

Has anyone mentioned Gsry P. Nunn yet? “London homesick blues” from “Viva Terlingua” is one of the greatest “outlaw” style tracks ever in my opinion. Gary P. style-wise is all over the place.

For some really out there, odd country songs, look up Kinky Friedman. Best example is his first album “Sold American.” Also did the great song "They ain’t making Jews like Jesus anymore. "

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I absolutely love Gary P. Nunn. When we used to live in the DFW area, we used to go to Ft. Worth and listen to him whenever he was playing.

He did an un-announced all accoustic set one night at Adair’s in Dallas. He just did a set and left. Maybe it was GPN, maybe it was the jim Beam - but I think that was one of the most inspiring nights of my life.

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What about Robert Earl Keen. Buckin good music.
I love the road goes on forever

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[quote]danreeves1973 wrote:
For some really out there, odd country songs, look up Kinky Friedman. Best example is his first album “Sold American.” Also did the great song "They ain’t making Jews like Jesus anymore. "
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i’ve read alot of kinky’s books but i’vew never heard him sing…i’ve heard him on imus though. the guy is frickn hilarious.

in the books he says the name of his band was “the texas jewboys” . is that for real ? does he still put records out ?

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I saw Merle Haggard last Thursday. All I can say is that he was un-fucking-believable.

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[quote]Dan-Trev wrote:
What about Robert Earl Keen. Buckin good music.
I love the road goes on forever
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I am in 100% agreement. Corpus Christi Bay is one of my all time favorite songs.

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What about Gary Stewart," your place or mine", “An empty glass”. I like Gary Stewart.

Anyone heard of Billy Joe Royal?

I like Charlie Robison, his first album, Life of the Party kicks ass.

David Allen Coe, has some pretty raunchy stuff on his XXX rated album, it’s funnier than hell,

I like more of the Texas song writers, Willie for President.

Bullpup

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Racsal Flatts…straight up country ass thugs.

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take a look at why DAC never made mainstream. You just can’t market that.

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Here’s my list of the ones that I didn’t see mentioned.

Cooder Graw
Radney Foster
Randy Rogers Band
Chris Knight
Cory Morrow
45 South
Jackson Taylor Band
Jason Boland
Kevin Fowler
Mike McClure
The Great Divide
Cross Canadian Ragweed
Robert Earl Keen
Roger Creager
Stoney Larue
Blue Edmonson
Django Walker
Kieth Whitley
Panhandlers