Not where I live. The mistake you make is thinking that how some Dems in a few cities think is indicative of the whole country. I mean, I know Fox news wants you to believe that. The fact NYC chose someone who supports the police over woke candidates, including one AOC endorsed, tells us how most Dems feel on the issue as well as just how little influence AOC has on those who vote Dem.
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Here is a survey with 194 respondents of various sizes, to look at some numbers.
I suppose it is more difficult to quantify the increase of crime due to a mindset fostered by prosecutors’ unwillingness to go after lawbreakers vs less policing.
Here’s the thing, defunding the police and especially abolishing the police are dumb ideas. Stats show that violent crime has gone up, is it a temporary spike due to factors like Covid? Who knows? The fact is, crime has gone up in cities that have not only not defunded the police but have increased spending on the police. If we focus on the places that have defunded the police and blame the rise in crime on that, we will end up not seeing the big picture. Regardless of why crime has gone up the answer isn’t to defund the police. If the uptick in crime is not related to defunding then it still shows we need the police and maybe even more police.
Who talks about abolishing and/or defunding the police? The president? No. It’s people like AOC who are not taken seriously by established democrats. It’s woke kids and elites who have no clue about reality. Not even the residents of the inner cities want to see fewer, let alone zero, cops. The idea that it is a dem policy when the majority of dems don’t agree with it is to parrot right wing news pundits. A few cities have allowed the wokesters to defund the police. They have certainly contributed to lower morale. They are seeing increases in crime that regardless if it isn’t related to defunding their police, still demonstrate a need for police. These cities are not the norm for America. If this were a dem policy then the president, rather than speak against it, would support it. You have liberals like Bill Maher calling the defund movement ridiculous. Yet somehow, it’s a dem policy. If anything it’s a neo-marxist policy but for some reason Americans can only handle the concept of two sides so everyone a conservative disagrees with gets lumped into the liberal/leftist/democrat/communist/marxist/socialist category. It’s like when they call Antifa democrats even though Antifa members themselves say they are against the democratic party.
AOC endorsed a defund candidate for NYC mayor and that didn’t help her win the nomination. AOC does not represent the majority of people on the left or vote democrat.
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All of those law enforcement officers surveyed don’t seem to understand what’s actually going on in law enforcement nearly as well as you do. None of the ones I know personally share your clear thinking either, unfortunately.
If only they could step away from their over-wrought concerns about their own jobs and see the big picture clearly, like you do, they would come to a better understanding of the situation.
Blaming Democrats for this is so wrong, I understand this now. We should blame people who aren’t Democrats.
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In my last post, l said it is difficult to quantify less police or if DAs are fueling an increase in crime. It seems intuitive that if a DA is not charging for crimes, criminals get more active and police do less policing. In the same vein, if PD knows DA and/or mayor is a liberal piece of trash, they will do less policing - for fear of their career or being charged themselves.
Dem pols and talking heads are calling for this, bleating night and day on MSM and social media about racism, police brutality, reparations. It doesn’t have to be every Dem, but virtually everyone doing the aforementioned is a Dem.
Huh, I wouldn’t have pegged you for such a big social media and liberal MSM viewer.
All my xenophobic sites link the tweets, igs, and clips, with definite biased commentary. 
Plus l always have my parents, around the corner. 24/7 CNN/MSNBC when l want to hear the other side unfiltered.
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Bail “reform” is causing a lot of the mess as well.
I was very sad when the Second City Cop blog went dark after many years of posting a cop’s thought’s on Chicago crime and Chicago Democrat politics, which are the only kind of Chicago politics, as they relate to policing and public safety.
Bail “reform” and bad prosecutor judgement are one of the roots behind both the abysmal clearance rate for murder and the murders themselves. Not a week went by where someone, often a child, was killed by someone who could have been behind bars for violent crimes, but wasn’t.
Imagine your neighbor shot someone in anger. He gets arrested, gets convicted and sent to jail. A few months later, he’s still your neighbor, still the same guy who shoots people for the pettiest of reasons.
At least the jurisdiction isn’t locking up a disproportional number of whatever intersectional identity group your violent psychopath neighbor belongs to. That’s what’s most important, after all.
My sister in law worked overtime to elect Rachel Rollins, who won as DA of Suffolk County, MA. She literally ran on a platform of decriminalizing crime. Every cause du jour of radical leftism was on-the-table, from bail reform to openly declaring that petty theft will not be prosecuted.
She was not endorsed by any LEO organization.
Did you read all of the responses or just the ones that agree with your narrative? BTW, how many blamed democrat policy?
No, we should blame the individuals responsible. You know, personal accountability.
Isn’t there a word for this? Like, virtually every murderer in the ghetto is black but not every black person is a murderer.
You seem to be working overtime to defend bad ideas today. You’re in one thread explaining why you think outlawing the saying of mean things to Italian government officials upholds honor and dignity and in this thread explaining how it is unfair to point out that Democrats are the only ones advancing anti-cop rhetoric and policy.
No shit it’s not all Democrats. We covered that way above. Anyone with a brain understands this. What you’re overlooking with your meaningless semantic quibbling is the fact that Democrats who did not explicitly use the phrase “defund the police”, also took part in the anti-cop campaign. Whether it was Obama declaring huge swaths of law enforcement racist and slapping them with consent decrees, the DNC inviting Michael Brown’s mom on stage or…
…every Democrat in the House of Representatives voting for a “police reform” bill supported by no LEO agencies and only 3 Republicans that’s named after a career criminal who robbed pregnant women at gunpoint and whose drug overdose death sparked months of anti-cop riots encouraged by Democrats.
But yes, by all means, continue with your astounding display of mental gymnastics to explain why I’m off-the-mark for calling out Democrats for making the situation much worse than it needs to be.
You’ve got a helluva’ lot more patience than I do.
Good luck with trying to get across facts.
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Everything he has posted in support and in rebuttal.
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The death wasn’t a drug overdose…
@Mufasa I hear you man. He came hard with so many facts there it’s hard to name just one. There’s so many examples of facts, I can no longer understand why I posted the last facts I just did. Especially the facts with bolded parts about that bill that was just passed.
In light of all of these other facts you’ve highlighted, I now reconsider my position. All of the rising crime and abysmal staffing issues are just an unfortunate turn of events. Real Democrats were fighting hard to stop this from happening the entire time, backing the police at every turn.
I stand corrected. I’m sure his choice of drugs that day was solid and they were consumed responsibly in a way unlikely to cause harmful reactions in his body or harmful situations in society.
Enjoy the weekend fellas, I’m about to start mine!
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I’m sure having his caritoid artery stood on for nine straight minutes had nothing to do with his death either
The guy had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system, note “in his system” could very well mean “minute quantities” just as having cannabis “in your system” at the time of arrest for whatever doesn’t equate to having lit up a blunt ten minutes ago. You might have smoked days ago depending on the nature/sensitivity of the testing
Had it been a fentanyl overdose he would have been totally fucking out of it, then he would’ve nodded off and a death rattle would’ve ensued. Had it been cardiac arrest mediated through methamphetamine abuse once again, it would have been super… Super sudden. Like literally one second he would have been alive and talking, the next he would’ve been making this noise (was gonna post a video of what a death rattle sounds like but realised posting videos of dead people is inappropriate)
Have you seen the video? The cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest mediated by insufficient oxygen intake. Sure, fentanyl can cause that if dosed by itself as it serves to depress the CNS and not in conjunction with a VERY STRONG CNS stimulant like methamphetamine
Autospy states he died from asphyxia mediated through compression of the neck leading to a lack of oxygenated blood flow to the brain. But I’m sure his speedball was the cause of cardiopulmonary arrest mediated through insufficient oxygen intake right? Because he seemed so fucked up in that video, on the absolute verge of overdose right?
It’s almost as ludicrous of blaming people’s crimes on “but there was weed in his system”, which plenty still do. This means literally nothing
Yes, rising crime rates in cities wherein police department’s haven’t been defunded and where no#'s of LEO’s statistically haven’t decreased is due to democrats wanting to defund the police.
I’ve never made the argument that Chauvin had good jiu jitsu or good restraint there. I’ve only made the argument that is isn’t 2nd degree murder. George Floyd chose to go out into the world that day fucked up beyond belief and died because of it. That’s a fact. If not for that, he would have never had to encounter Officer Chauvin, his imperfect judgment, his imperfect team-mates and his knee that day. Meanwhile, because you don’t find any of this worth responding to for some strange reason…
It was a UNANIMOUS DEMOCRAT VOTE IN THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES for a bill that no LEO unions or organizations support with a scant THREE Republicans voted for.
And you guys want to argue one-liners on medical testimony basis, try to find semantic disputes and completely ignore the forest for that one tree. I’m eager to hear you explain the benefits of the George Floyd Justice In Policing Act.
Let’s hear your imaginations kick into gear about the improved outcomes it will lead to.