[quote]Damici wrote:
jackzepplin wrote:
Damici wrote:
God did not mention a darned thing about abortions in the Bible or anywhere else that I’m aware. He did mention a whole lot of things specifically, like murder and theft and adultery and the like, but not once am I aware of an instance in which He stated that an unborn child is a life, and that aborting it is murder.
When the bible was written, do you think anyone was capable of debating “life” in the womb? Forget about religion and think about what is humane. Why do you have to keep brining God into this debate? The liberals ask us to check our religion at the door when dealing with politics, and I’m doing that. Forget about God’s responsibilities as the ultimate Judge and think about what is humane. Is sucking the brains out of a child humane? Is cutting off the arms and legs of a human (at any stage of life) humane? Can’t you see that the laws need to change? Or are you one of those that feel like you should have the right to do any damn thing you please because you should have the “choice”? Did you know that it’s illegal to kill yourself?
As for being capable of debating life in the womb at the time the Bible was written, you bet your ass people were capable back then. Very deep and complicated philosphical issues were debated extremely articulately and intelligently by the ancient Greeks in pre-biblical times, as I’m sure you’re aware.
So let’s forget about religion, as you suggested. You mentioned sucking the brains out of a child. A “child.” You still don’t seem to understand that about half the people in this country DON’T consider an early-stage pregnancy to be a CHILD. I KNOW that you do. THEY DON’T!! I’m not arguing for the right to do whatever the hell I PERSONALLY want, as (a.) I am a male, and (b.), as I mentioned earlier, I don’t think I would personally be morally comfortable with the idea of having my own child aborted. (Maybe it’s a “just in case God wouldn’t like it” thing). But I’M not shoving MY “moral” concerns down the rest of the nation’s THROATS, thereby causing all other useful and pertinent national business to be driven to a SCREECHING HALT!
Let me ask you: When voting for a candidate for national office, obviously them being pro-life is important to you, meaning you wouldn’t vote for a pro-choice presidential candidate, for example, I would wager, since you don’t want to “stand idly by” as “children” are “murdered.” That issue is a trigger point for you. Ok, then are you willing to “stand idly by” by voting for someone who does NOT advocate IMMEDIATELY sending troops and smart bombs into Darfur to stop the wholesale slaughter and rape of thousands upon thousands of innocent people (already-BORN people) that is going on there? HOW COULD YOU VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT GOING TO IMMEDIATELY TRY TO PUT A STOP TO THIS??! IT’S MURDER, PLAIN AND SIMPLE – UN-DEBATABLE MURDER!!!
Yet I KNOW that you don’t use THAT as your litmus test when voting for someone. Why the contradiction, oh moral crusader . . . ?[/quote]
What contradiction? You assume that you know my thoughts.
I think we, as a strong nation, should come to the aid of the weak and do everything we are capable of doing. Changing abortion laws are within our reach, while reaching out to every spot on earth to save people from other atrocities, may not be possible at this exact moment. Let’s try to keep our eye on the ball here and handle one thing at a time. OK, there Pumpkin?