I like how for some people calling a man gay who planned the destruction of the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the Capitol as well as many other terrorist activities “going too far”.
lol
[quote]Nards wrote:
I like how for some people calling a man gay who planned the destruction of the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the Capitol as well as many other terrorist activities “going too far”.
lol[/quote]
I see your point, but I think Raj is correct (I assume he meant that it’s unfair to link gays to world destruction), and I agree with him (for once).
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I like how for some people calling a man gay who planned the destruction of the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the Capitol as well as many other terrorist activities “going too far”.
lol[/quote]
I see your point, but I think Raj is correct (I assume he meant that it’s unfair to link gays to world destruction), and I agree with him (for once).
:)[/quote]
You’re right, I just wanted to do it from the other way for the joke.
I dont think this has been posted already but…
ACTUAL video of the Navy SEAL who killed OBL.
[quote]gregron wrote:
I dont think this has been posted already but…
ACTUAL video of the Navy SEAL who killed OBL. [/quote]
THAT was awesome! LOL!!
I was gonna ask Gregron if he knew the guy…until I saw the URL. Funny though.
[quote]postholedigger wrote:
I was gonna ask Gregron if he knew the guy…until I saw the URL. Funny though.[/quote]
lol (I might though. I’ll see about that in September when i go out to VA and visit some friends)
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]postholedigger wrote:
I was gonna ask Gregron if he knew the guy…until I saw the URL. Funny though.[/quote]
lol (I might though. I’ll see about that in September when i go out to VA and visit some friends)[/quote]
Nice!
The first minute is classic.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
- I am unaware of any Western democracy deliberately ‘bombing’ anyone other than terrorists nor ‘starv(ing anyone) to death’. On the contrary, Western democracies and their tax payers are the ones who provide aid to less fortunate and free countries so they can eat food and have hospitals and such. Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us.
[/quote]
So because you are unaware of something it never happened?
For a great background on the western democracies fuckin’ terrible legacy in the middle east you should read
Robert Fisk’s “the great war for civilisation, the conquest of the middle east”.
And don’t give me any shit about him not being a credible source of information.
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
- I am unaware of any Western democracy deliberately ‘bombing’ anyone other than terrorists nor ‘starv(ing anyone) to death’. On the contrary, Western democracies and their tax payers are the ones who provide aid to less fortunate and free countries so they can eat food and have hospitals and such. Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us.
[/quote]
So because you are unaware of something it never happened?
For a great background on the western democracies fuckin’ terrible legacy in the middle east you should read
Robert Fisk’s “the great war for civilisation, the conquest of the middle east”.
And don’t give me any shit about him not being a credible source of information.
[/quote]
I’m not sure if it was you but some idiot already told me that Robert Fisk is a great source on the Middle East. I reminded them that he is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist who questioned the melting point of steel, the alleged lack of aircraft debree and other such complete shite. I’m not completely out of my fucking mind so I think I’ll skip the Robert Fisk history lessons thanks.
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
- I am unaware of any Western democracy deliberately ‘bombing’ anyone other than terrorists nor ‘starv(ing anyone) to death’. On the contrary, Western democracies and their tax payers are the ones who provide aid to less fortunate and free countries so they can eat food and have hospitals and such. Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us.
[/quote]
So because you are unaware of something it never happened?
For a great background on the western democracies fuckin’ terrible legacy in the middle east you should read
Robert Fisk’s “the great war for civilisation, the conquest of the middle east”.
And don’t give me any shit about him not being a credible source of information.
[/quote]
I read Fisk’s book. It’s very good.
I also liked that video posted a couple up.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
- I am unaware of any Western democracy deliberately ‘bombing’ anyone other than terrorists nor ‘starv(ing anyone) to death’. On the contrary, Western democracies and their tax payers are the ones who provide aid to less fortunate and free countries so they can eat food and have hospitals and such. Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us.
[/quote]
So because you are unaware of something it never happened?
For a great background on the western democracies fuckin’ terrible legacy in the middle east you should read
Robert Fisk’s “the great war for civilisation, the conquest of the middle east”.
And don’t give me any shit about him not being a credible source of information.
[/quote]
I’m not sure if it was you but some idiot already told me that Robert Fisk is a great source on the Middle East. I reminded them that he is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist who questioned the melting point of steel, the alleged lack of aircraft debree and other such complete shite. I’m not completely out of my fucking mind so I think I’ll skip the Robert Fisk history lessons thanks.
http://christopherhitchenswatch.blogspot.com/2007/09/robert-fisk-dips-his-toe-into-911.html[/quote]
You need to read the whole article from the horse’s mouth there skippy and not just some bunch of cherry picked quotes out of context arranged to make someone look bad and to suit someone elses narrow minded agenda.
Here is the full piece. http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-even-i-question-the-truth-about-911-462904.html
Of course I don’t expect you to read it as it is starting to sound like you have been skipping history lessons for most of your life and seem pretty determined to tow the party line and intimate anyone who doesn’t is and idiot or talking shite or “completely out of their fucking mind”.
So you dissmised someone who has been living in and reporting on the middleast for over 30 years in one fell swoop from your little keyboard as a conspiracy theorist?
And this little controversial tid-bit of info you gleaned fromn the net completely invalidates everything Fisk has said in 30+ years of independent reporting? a guy who has been in the war zone longer than just about any other journalist in history risking his life talking to the actual people involved in the conflict whlie the bullets are flying and the bombs falling?
Go you little internet warrior you.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us
[/quote]
This is a telling insight into your narrow minded little siege mentality that uses sweeping baseless generalisations to prop up weak arguments.
What do you mean by “by and large”? can I get a percentage on that? 70% of the population? 40%? 80%?
I travelled through the middle east (turkey,syria,jordan,lebanon,Israel,egpyt) about 2 months before bush jnr and the might of the American military went in to pulverise Baghdad (at one point we were about 20kms from the border with Baghdad in the Syrian desert) and the tension was palpable everywhere we went.
BUT…at no point did any of us feel like the population by and large wanted to “exterminate/enslave us”
The majority in those countries just want to be fuckin’ left alone like the rest of us to live as they see fit.
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
- I am unaware of any Western democracy deliberately ‘bombing’ anyone other than terrorists nor ‘starv(ing anyone) to death’. On the contrary, Western democracies and their tax payers are the ones who provide aid to less fortunate and free countries so they can eat food and have hospitals and such. Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us.
[/quote]
So because you are unaware of something it never happened?
For a great background on the western democracies fuckin’ terrible legacy in the middle east you should read
Robert Fisk’s “the great war for civilisation, the conquest of the middle east”.
And don’t give me any shit about him not being a credible source of information.
[/quote]
I’m not sure if it was you but some idiot already told me that Robert Fisk is a great source on the Middle East. I reminded them that he is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist who questioned the melting point of steel, the alleged lack of aircraft debree and other such complete shite. I’m not completely out of my fucking mind so I think I’ll skip the Robert Fisk history lessons thanks.
http://christopherhitchenswatch.blogspot.com/2007/09/robert-fisk-dips-his-toe-into-911.html[/quote]
You need to read the whole article from the horse’s mouth there skippy and not just some bunch of cherry picked quotes out of context arranged to make someone look bad and to suit someone elses narrow minded agenda.
Here is the full piece. http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-even-i-question-the-truth-about-911-462904.html
Of course I don’t expect you to read it as it is starting to sound like you have been skipping history lessons for most of your life and seem pretty determined to tow the party line and intimate anyone who doesn’t is and idiot or talking shite or “completely out of their fucking mind”.
So you dissmised someone who has been living in and reporting on the middleast for over 30 years in one fell swoop from your little keyboard as a conspiracy theorist?
And this little controversial tid-bit of info you gleaned fromn the net completely invalidates everything Fisk has said in 30+ years of independent reporting? a guy who has been in the war zone longer than just about any other journalist in history risking his life talking to the actual people involved in the conflict whlie the bullets are flying and the bombs falling?
Go you little internet warrior you.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us
[/quote]
This is a telling insight into your narrow minded little siege mentality that uses sweeping baseless generalisations to prop up weak arguments.
What do you mean by “by and large”? can I get a percentage on that? 70% of the population? 40%? 80%?
I travelled through the middle east (turkey,syria,jordan,lebanon,Israel,egpyt) about 2 months before bush jnr and the might of the American military went in to pulverise Baghdad (at one point we were about 20kms from the border with Baghdad in the Syrian desert) and the tension was palpable everywhere we went.
BUT…at no point did any of us feel like the population by and large wanted to “exterminate/enslave us”
The majority in those countries just want to be fuckin’ left alone like the rest of us to live as they see fit.
[/quote]
Want some stats?
84 percent of Palestinians admit they support killing Jewish civilians.
73 percent of Palestinians admit they support killing US civilians.
The majority of Palestinians admit they support the 9/11 attacks on America.
The majority (61 percent) of Muslims worldwide admit they believe Arabs did not carry out 9/11.
The majority (77 percent) of Muslims worldwide oppose the liberation of Afghanistan.
The majority in Pakistan and Jordan have a favourable view of Osama bin Laden.
The majority who expressed an opinion in Morocco have a favourable view of Osama bin Laden.
Egyptian survey 2006:
Which country do you most hate? Top answer - USA.
In which country would you most like to live? Top answer - USA.
Egytian survey 2007:
91 percent in Egypt support attacks on US troops in Iraq.
91 percent in Egypt support attacks on US troops in Afghanistan.
Survey 2009:
90 percent of Palestinians support killing American troops in Iraq. And yet America is giving the Palestinians $1 billion in aid!
83 percent of Egyptians support killing American troops in Iraq. And yet America gives Egypt $2 billion in aid every year!
BTW - I have also travelled widely and spent much time in Turkey. I read Fisk’s entire article from the UK Independent when it was published. In relation to the 9/11 attacks Fisk raises his concerns and questions about ‘the melting point of steel’, the ‘lack of aircraft debris’, why ‘building 7 collapsed’ and ‘so neatly’ etc. The article I put a link to about Fisk’s bullshit is by Christopher Hitchens, a left-wing liberal who I don’t like much.
EDIT: Source for stats, many of which come from Arab/Muslim sources:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Christopher Hitchens, a left-wing liberal[/quote]
snort
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
- I am unaware of any Western democracy deliberately ‘bombing’ anyone other than terrorists nor ‘starv(ing anyone) to death’. On the contrary, Western democracies and their tax payers are the ones who provide aid to less fortunate and free countries so they can eat food and have hospitals and such. Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us.
[/quote]
So because you are unaware of something it never happened?
For a great background on the western democracies fuckin’ terrible legacy in the middle east you should read
Robert Fisk’s “the great war for civilisation, the conquest of the middle east”.
And don’t give me any shit about him not being a credible source of information.
[/quote]
I’m not sure if it was you but some idiot already told me that Robert Fisk is a great source on the Middle East. I reminded them that he is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist who questioned the melting point of steel, the alleged lack of aircraft debree and other such complete shite. I’m not completely out of my fucking mind so I think I’ll skip the Robert Fisk history lessons thanks.
http://christopherhitchenswatch.blogspot.com/2007/09/robert-fisk-dips-his-toe-into-911.html[/quote]
You need to read the whole article from the horse’s mouth there skippy and not just some bunch of cherry picked quotes out of context arranged to make someone look bad and to suit someone elses narrow minded agenda.
Here is the full piece. http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-even-i-question-the-truth-about-911-462904.html
Of course I don’t expect you to read it as it is starting to sound like you have been skipping history lessons for most of your life and seem pretty determined to tow the party line and intimate anyone who doesn’t is and idiot or talking shite or “completely out of their fucking mind”.
So you dissmised someone who has been living in and reporting on the middleast for over 30 years in one fell swoop from your little keyboard as a conspiracy theorist?
And this little controversial tid-bit of info you gleaned fromn the net completely invalidates everything Fisk has said in 30+ years of independent reporting? a guy who has been in the war zone longer than just about any other journalist in history risking his life talking to the actual people involved in the conflict whlie the bullets are flying and the bombs falling?
Go you little internet warrior you.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us
[/quote]
This is a telling insight into your narrow minded little siege mentality that uses sweeping baseless generalisations to prop up weak arguments.
What do you mean by “by and large”? can I get a percentage on that? 70% of the population? 40%? 80%?
I travelled through the middle east (turkey,syria,jordan,lebanon,Israel,egpyt) about 2 months before bush jnr and the might of the American military went in to pulverise Baghdad (at one point we were about 20kms from the border with Baghdad in the Syrian desert) and the tension was palpable everywhere we went.
BUT…at no point did any of us feel like the population by and large wanted to “exterminate/enslave us”
The majority in those countries just want to be fuckin’ left alone like the rest of us to live as they see fit.
[/quote]
Want some stats?
84 percent of Palestinians admit they support killing Jewish civilians.
73 percent of Palestinians admit they support killing US civilians.
The majority of Palestinians admit they support the 9/11 attacks on America.
The majority (61 percent) of Muslims worldwide admit they believe Arabs did not carry out 9/11.
The majority (77 percent) of Muslims worldwide oppose the liberation of Afghanistan.
The majority in Pakistan and Jordan have a favourable view of Osama bin Laden.
The majority who expressed an opinion in Morocco have a favourable view of Osama bin Laden.
Egyptian survey 2006:
Which country do you most hate? Top answer - USA.
In which country would you most like to live? Top answer - USA.
Egytian survey 2007:
91 percent in Egypt support attacks on US troops in Iraq.
91 percent in Egypt support attacks on US troops in Afghanistan.
Survey 2009:
90 percent of Palestinians support killing American troops in Iraq. And yet America is giving the Palestinians $1 billion in aid!
83 percent of Egyptians support killing American troops in Iraq. And yet America gives Egypt $2 billion in aid every year!
BTW - I have also travelled widely and spent much time in Turkey. I read Fisk’s entire article from the UK Independent when it was published. In relation to the 9/11 attacks Fisk raises his concerns and questions about ‘the melting point of steel’, the ‘lack of aircraft debris’, why ‘building 7 collapsed’ and ‘so neatly’ etc. The article I put a link to about Fisk’s bullshit is by Christopher Hitchens, a left-wing liberal who I don’t like much.
EDIT: Source for stats, many of which come from Arab/Muslim sources:
http://markhumphrys.com/islamic.world.html[/quote]
The Palestinians wish to see Israelis dead and the country that turns a blind eye to their attrocities? no fucking kidding!
Arab opinion is against the occupation of two muslim countries, one of which has been raped so hard for so long by outside influences that it has been left a wreck and a breeding ground for radicals and extremeists? no fucking kidding!
Got any more breaking news?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
The majority (61 percent) of Muslims worldwide admit they believe Arabs did not carry out 9/11.
The majority (77 percent) of Muslims worldwide oppose the liberation of Afghanistan.
[/quote]
These are from a 2002 survey…yeah things have changed a bit since then.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us
[/quote]
All the survey questions were about America and Israel, so I guess that is who you really meant when you said “us”.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
And yet America is giving the Palestinians $1 billion in aid!
[/quote]
Yes Tragic Isn’t it? Giving them aid to try and repair some of the effects of giving the Israelis $114 billion in munitions and aid to crush them.
Graffiti painted on Israela"s “annexation wall” clearly spells it out: “Apartheid Wall Paid for With U.S. Tax Dollars.”
That disgusting little conflict has cost the U.S taxpayer about 3 trillion apparently (total cost so far measured in 2002 dollars), yet the U.S government keeps on supporting it.
Yeah, Palestinians could possibly be forgiven for thinking that America hates them.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
America gives Egypt $2 billion in aid every year!
[/quote]
Yes, a dirty little trade off that is basically an insurance that Egypt won’t attack Israel, which does not desseminate down to the average people and thus does not affect their opinion about America’s foreign policy in the middle east.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
And yet America is giving the Palestinians $1 billion in aid!
[/quote]
Where did you get this from? because apparently it is actually about a quarter of this (at least it was under Bush)
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I see your highly contentious post and raise you one.
[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
The Palestinians wish to see Israelis dead and the country that turns a blind eye to their attrocities? no fucking kidding!
Arab opinion is against the occupation of two muslim countries, one of which has been raped so hard for so long by outside influences that it has been left a wreck and a breeding ground for radicals and extremeists? no fucking kidding!
Got any more breaking news?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
The majority (61 percent) of Muslims worldwide admit they believe Arabs did not carry out 9/11.
The majority (77 percent) of Muslims worldwide oppose the liberation of Afghanistan.
[/quote]
These are from a 2002 survey…yeah things have changed a bit since then.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us
[/quote]
All the survey questions were about America and Israel, so I guess that is who you really meant when you said “us”.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
And yet America is giving the Palestinians $1 billion in aid!
[/quote]
Yes Tragic Isn’t it? Giving them aid to try and repair some of the effects of giving the Israelis $114 billion in munitions and aid to crush them.
Graffiti painted on Israela"s “annexation wall” clearly spells it out: “Apartheid Wall Paid for With U.S. Tax Dollars.”
That disgusting little conflict has cost the U.S taxpayer about 3 trillion apparently (total cost so far measured in 2002 dollars), yet the U.S government keeps on supporting it.
Yeah, Palestinians could possibly be forgiven for thinking that America hates them.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
America gives Egypt $2 billion in aid every year!
[/quote]
Yes, a dirty little trade off that is basically an insurance that Egypt won’t attack Israel, which does not desseminate down to the average people and thus does not affect their opinion about America’s foreign policy in the middle east.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
And yet America is giving the Palestinians $1 billion in aid!
[/quote]
Where did you get this from? because apparently it is actually about a quarter of this (at least it was under Bush)[/quote]
I don’t know where to start. You are clearly one twisted individual. By ‘us’, I mean Western democracies, i.e. countries where everyone can vote, expect reasonable treatment under the legal system, have a job, say and write what they think, expect not to be stoned to death if they are raped or accused of adultery or being gay etc. I consider countries that have these sorts of laws ‘civilised’ and countries that don’t ‘uncivilised’. I consider Israel to be a ‘civilised’ place and the Palestinian territories ‘uncivilised’. I consider supporting Israel to be a ‘progressive’ and ‘liberal’ cause. I consider supporting the Palestinian cause to be tantamount to being a fucking neo-Nazi.