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Cheeky_Kea · May 23, 2011, 12:02pm

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:

The Palestinians wish to see Israelis dead and the country that turns a blind eye to their attrocities? no fucking kidding!

Arab opinion is against the occupation of two muslim countries, one of which has been raped so hard for so long by outside influences that it has been left a wreck and a breeding ground for radicals and extremeists? no fucking kidding!

Got any more breaking news?

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
The majority (61 percent) of Muslims worldwide admit they believe Arabs did not carry out 9/11.
The majority (77 percent) of Muslims worldwide oppose the liberation of Afghanistan.
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These are from a 2002 survey…yeah things have changed a bit since then.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us
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All the survey questions were about America and Israel, so I guess that is who you really meant when you said “us”.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
And yet America is giving the Palestinians $1 billion in aid!
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Yes Tragic Isn’t it? Giving them aid to try and repair some of the effects of giving the Israelis $114 billion in munitions and aid to crush them.

Graffiti painted on Israela"s “annexation wall” clearly spells it out: “Apartheid Wall Paid for With U.S. Tax Dollars.”

That disgusting little conflict has cost the U.S taxpayer about 3 trillion apparently (total cost so far measured in 2002 dollars), yet the U.S government keeps on supporting it.

Yeah, Palestinians could possibly be forgiven for thinking that America hates them.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
America gives Egypt $2 billion in aid every year!
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Yes, a dirty little trade off that is basically an insurance that Egypt won’t attack Israel, which does not desseminate down to the average people and thus does not affect their opinion about America’s foreign policy in the middle east.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
And yet America is giving the Palestinians $1 billion in aid!
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Where did you get this from? because apparently it is actually about a quarter of this (at least it was under Bush)[/quote]

I don’t know where to start. You are clearly one twisted individual. By ‘us’, I mean Western democracies, i.e. countries where everyone can vote, expect reasonable treatment under the legal system, have a job, say and write what they think, expect not to be stoned to death if they are raped or accused of adultery or being gay etc. I consider countries that have these sorts of laws ‘civilised’ and countries that don’t ‘uncivilised’. I consider Israel to be a ‘civilised’ place and the Palestinian territories ‘uncivilised’. I consider supporting Israel to be a ‘progressive’ and ‘liberal’ cause. I consider supporting the Palestinian cause to be tantamount to being a fucking neo-Nazi.[/quote]

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I don’t know where to start. You are clearly one twisted individual.
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This coming from you is one of the most ironically hilarious things any one has said to me all year…thanks for the laughs.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I consider supporting the Palestinian cause to be tantamount to being a fucking neo-Nazi.[/quote]

I don’t support the Palestinnian cause, I can just plainly see, as can many others, that they get shafted so badly.

…so stick calling me a neo nazi up your fuckin ass.

The way Israel conducts it’s affairs in Palestine is so fucking far from being civilised it’s not funny. There will be no civility in Palestine till they stop getting squeezed.

Aid from western democracies is generally for poor and developing countries is it not? in your own words “for hospitals and food for the less fortunate”.

So how is it that a rich country with a population of only 7 million (75 percent jewish) gets 114 to 118 billion dollars a year in aid and arms?
Is Israel less fortunate or developing? do they have a food shortage?

and a poor country like egypt with a population of 65 million gets 2 billion?

Nothing screwy there, no agenda at all.

I thank my lucky stars that I live in a democracy and I thank people like my uncle and granfather who fought in ww2 to keep it that way.

But my democracy leaves a bad taste when the freedom is used to feel free to fuck everyone else.

I am over arguing with you, I can feel you draining my will to live.
We will never see eye to eye.

SexMachine · May 23, 2011, 12:22pm

[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:

I don’t support the Palestinnian cause, I can just plainly see, as can many others, that they get shafted so badly.

…so stick calling me a neo nazi up your fuckin ass.

The way Israel conducts it’s affairs in Palestine is so fucking far from being civilised it’s not funny. There will be no civility in Palestine till they stop getting squeezed.

Aid from western democracies is generally for poor and developing countries is it not? in your own words “for hospitals and food for the less fortunate”.

So how is it that a rich country with a population of only 7 million (75 percent jewish) gets 114 to 118 billion dollars a year in aid and arms?
Is Israel less fortunate or developing? do they have a food shortage?

and a poor country like egypt with a population of 65 million gets 2 billion?

Nothing screwy there, no agenda at all.

I thank my lucky stars that I live in a democracy and I thank people like my uncle and granfather who fought in ww2 to keep it that way.

But my democracy leaves a bad taste when the freedom is used to feel free to fuck everyone else.

I am over arguing with you, I can feel you draining my will to live.
We will never see eye to eye.
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You deliberately misinterpreted what I said. I don’t think you’re a neo-Nazi. I think you’re a suicidal ‘can’t we all just get a long/let’s be even handed’ idiot.
Your aid stats are ridiculously off. Israel gets less than 1/4 of the aid that its Nazi neighbour states get. In terms of dollars per person, Palestine gets more aid than any other nation in the history of the world. The vast majority of it comes from the EU and US(big Satan). Aid convoys into Gaza run continuously whilst Qassam rockets/rampagers/suicide bombers are sent against the hand that feeds them whilst it feeds them.
You are correct that we will never see eye to eye. I live in the real world, I have an open mind and I will always concede my mistakes and learn from them.

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OBoile · May 23, 2011, 3:10pm

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

I am unaware of any Western democracy deliberately ‘bombing’ anyone other than terrorists nor ‘starv(ing anyone) to death’. On the contrary, Western democracies and their tax payers are the ones who provide aid to less fortunate and free countries so they can eat food and have hospitals and such. Even countries whose populations, by and large, wish to exterminate/enslave us.
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You should google “Iraq War 2003”.

Cheeky_Kea · May 24, 2011, 12:00am

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

You deliberately misinterpreted what I said. I don’t think you’re a neo-Nazi. I think you’re a suicidal ‘can’t we all just get a long/let’s be even handed’ idiot.
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I didn’t deliberately do anything…just because your accusations are sly doesn’t mean they aren’t there.
You intimated that I support the Palestinian cause based on my last post then you claim that doing so is tantamount to neo-nazism and leave it for others to put the two together without actually having to state “you are a neo-nazi”.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
2. Your aid stats are ridiculously off. Israel gets less than 1/4 of the aid that its Nazi neighbour states get. In terms of dollars per person, Palestine gets more aid than any other nation in the history of the world. The vast majority of it comes from the EU and US(big Satan). Aid convoys into Gaza run continuously whilst Qassam rockets/rampagers/suicide bombers are sent against the hand that feeds them whilst it feeds them.
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Your info here is just flat out bullshit. (my saying 118 billion “a year” was a typo however, I meant the overall cost.)

One of my sources for US military aid to Israel during Fiscal Year 2011 is the Congressional Research Service “U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel”, written by Jeremy M. Sharp, Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs, updated September 16, 2010. According to this report, the Obama Administration requested $3 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) for Israel for the fiscal year 2011.
By all accounts the United States has given more money to Israel than to any other country. The Congressional Research Service’s conservative estimate of total cumulative US aid to Israel (not adjusted for inflation) from 1949 through 2010 is $109.001 billion. (conservative estimate, some of the spending is buried under paperwork)

Palestine gets bugger all by comparison—none of it as direct military funding, it is heavily vetted and audited frequently.

The “aid” or “donations” to Israel flow through generously and unimpeded.

If you have a problem with Palestinian refugees, then shouldn’t you take umbrage at the country who created the refugee problem? Was Ariel Sharon’s bank account considered aid? Was Ehud Barak’s?

You are using circular or facetious logic, equating two or more concepts that are in fact not comparable in order to obfuscate facts.

And you really like chucking the nazi word around don’t you? which is ironic given that you rant like a facist.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
3. You are correct that we will never see eye to eye. I live in the real world, I have an open mind and I will always concede my mistakes and learn from them.[/quote]

You have an open mind? LMFAO!! this is pure comedy gold!

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
The vast majority of it comes from the EU and US(big Satan). Aid convoys into Gaza run continuously whilst Qassam rockets/rampagers/suicide bombers are sent against the hand that feeds them whilst it feeds them.
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Pretends to feed them with one hand and supports the country that made them they way they are with the other bigger, more generous hand.
Wouldn’t need to give so much aid or any at all if it wasn’t bankrolling the country that is causing them to be in a humanitarian crises that requires aid.

Qassam rockets are a homemade concoction that is all that refugees can come up with.
the Israeli Ministry of Defense views the Qassams as “more a psychological than physical threat.”
Palestinian familes actively try to discourage or stop Hamas from setting them up in their villages or near their houses as they know what the Israeli military response is going to be like…a few people have been shot by Hamas for this.

They only get fired into Israel…a hand that is definitely not feeding them.
Palestinian suicide bombers pretty much target Israel specifically…not too sure what you are getting at here.

Just lumping all your facts together as usual to help bolster a non existent point.

I guess I wasn’t done arguing…shit.

postholedigger · May 24, 2011, 12:06am

[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

You deliberately misinterpreted what I said. I don’t think you’re a neo-Nazi. I think you’re a suicidal ‘can’t we all just get a long/let’s be even handed’ idiot.
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I didn’t deliberately do anything…just because your accusations are sly doesn’t mean they aren’t there.
You intimated that I support the Palestinian cause based on my last post then you claim that doing so is tantamount to neo-nazism and leave it for others to put the two together without actually having to state “you are a neo-nazi”.