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[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

Youre off the deep end on this one man. What youre saying is unbelievably insulting to anyone who was directly affected by the deaths he caused. [/quote]

Were you directly affected by them? I was not, and I wouldn’t claim to know how anybody who was feels. I wonder if there are any regular posters here who were? Not that I would necessarily expect them to want to discuss the matter.

I’ve never lost someone I cared about as a result of another person’s actions. My understanding, though, has generally been that people find no joy or happiness when a person who took someone from them is brought to justice. I think it is more common to feel a sense of closure, to feel that the right thing has been done, but speaking personally, I can’t imagine finding any happiness in it. No amount of justice can ever bring a loved one back. Killing him does nothing to bring back the people he killed. He deserved to be punished and I support the actions taken, but I see nothing to CELEBRATE. I see no HAPPINESS in death.[/quote]

When you DO lose a loved one (which, I sincerely hope happens later than sooner), when you DO stand on ground zero and get chills even 10 years later, you will feel a sense of happiness when the piece of shit that Bin Laden was is pronounced dead.

I don’t expect you’ll ever feel some of the emotions that people have portrayed on this thread because you weren’t in NY on 9/11/01. I have family and friends who saw body parts laying amidst debris. People returning home to their families covered in dust, smelling of smoke. The skyline sending smoke hundreds of feet into the air.

I remember the exact moment I heard of the news on 9/11. I remember exactly what went through my head when the news first came on.

Scrounge up some of the 9/11 threads on here, read them, then rethink how the death of a person who was not only directly responsible for thousands of innocent deaths, and like bonez said, would kill you, me, our loved ones, and every other person in this country
in a heartbeat if he had the chance, then come back and offer your opionion.

You just don’t get the gravity of it all. You never will.

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I’m sorry but the people who feel sorry OBL is dead is like saying they’re sad Dahmer is dead. Hello!!! He’s a mass murderer!!! With NO conscience! A psychopath! His organization has no qualms about using women and children as suicide bombers! Osama is not a man. Osama was not a man. He was a target to be eliminated and we did exactly that. Good riddance to shitty rubbish!
[/quote]

There hasn’t been a single post, that I’ve seen, where “I’m sad he died,” or anything along those lines, has been said.[/quote]

Okay, maybe “sad” was not the proper word. More like…they feel bad, I really can’t think of the word I want to use. Remorse? Umm…I don’t know, but they are like he was a human being and we should not be rejoicing that he is no longer alive because he was a human with a soul and blah blah blah.

EDIT: Ah…see, I was talking about you when I said people feel bad he’s dead. Again, that’s like feeling bad Hitler died or Dahmer is dead. No fucking way will I feel bad that those people are dead. He deserves to be dead and at American hands. The fact that he used a WOMAN to shield him is even worse (just reported on CNN). My friend was supposed to work at the WTC on 9/11 and thankfully slept through his alarm. Don’t you dare feel bad that this psychopathic mass murderer is dead. You cheapen the people who died that day and the people who have died since then in this conflict.

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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I’m sorry but the people who feel sorry OBL is dead is like saying they’re sad Dahmer is dead. Hello!!! He’s a mass murderer!!! With NO conscience! A psychopath! His organization has no qualms about using women and children as suicide bombers! Osama is not a man. Osama was not a man. He was a target to be eliminated and we did exactly that. Good riddance to shitty rubbish!
[/quote]

There hasn’t been a single post, that I’ve seen, where “I’m sad he died,” or anything along those lines, has been said.[/quote]

Okay, maybe “sad” was not the proper word. More like…they feel bad, I really can’t think of the word I want to use. Remorse? Umm…I don’t know, but they are like he was a human being and we should not be rejoicing that he is no longer alive because he was a human with a soul and blah blah blah. [/quote]

That isn’t how I feel at all.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

Youre off the deep end on this one man. What youre saying is unbelievably insulting to anyone who was directly affected by the deaths he caused. [/quote]

Were you directly affected by them? I was not, and I wouldn’t claim to know how anybody who was feels. I wonder if there are any regular posters here who were? Not that I would necessarily expect them to want to discuss the matter.
[/quote]

Yes.

[quote]
I’ve never lost someone I cared about as a result of another person’s actions. My understanding, though, has generally been that people find no joy or happiness when a person who took someone from them is brought to justice. I think it is more common to feel a sense of closure, to feel that the right thing has been done, but speaking personally, I can’t imagine finding any happiness in it. No amount of justice can ever bring a loved one back. Killing him does nothing to bring back the people he killed. He deserved to be punished and I support the actions taken, but I see nothing to CELEBRATE. I see no HAPPINESS in death.[/quote]

I would advise you to shut the fuck up. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.[/quote]

Well I can’t argue with a solid argument like that. Very mature. But, no thank you. I’m entitled to my opinion, and you’re entitled to your opinion of it. If you can’t even bother to be polite about the subject, then I really do not care to consider your opinion.

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Were there hippies in the US in the 40s showing compassion for Hitler when we forced him to kill himself? Serial question.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

When you DO lose a loved one (which, I sincerely hope happens later than sooner) [/quote]

Seriously?

Wow.

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

Youre off the deep end on this one man. What youre saying is unbelievably insulting to anyone who was directly affected by the deaths he caused. [/quote]

Were you directly affected by them? I was not, and I wouldn’t claim to know how anybody who was feels. I wonder if there are any regular posters here who were? Not that I would necessarily expect them to want to discuss the matter.

I’ve never lost someone I cared about as a result of another person’s actions. My understanding, though, has generally been that people find no joy or happiness when a person who took someone from them is brought to justice. I think it is more common to feel a sense of closure, to feel that the right thing has been done, but speaking personally, I can’t imagine finding any happiness in it. No amount of justice can ever bring a loved one back. Killing him does nothing to bring back the people he killed. He deserved to be punished and I support the actions taken, but I see nothing to CELEBRATE. I see no HAPPINESS in death.[/quote]

First question: yes. No one in my immediate family died, but I was affected in quite a few other ways. I was speaking for those who did suffer personal losses though, not neccessarily putting myself in that group.

“Your understanding” is not fully developed then.

I really cant believe you said “My understanding, though, has generally been that people find no joy or happiness when a person who took someone from them is brought to justice.”

You sound like an amazingly inexperienced child. Honestly, did you just make that up on the spot? How could there possibly be a ‘general emotion’ for something of this magnitude?

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

Youre off the deep end on this one man. What youre saying is unbelievably insulting to anyone who was directly affected by the deaths he caused. [/quote]

Were you directly affected by them? I was not, and I wouldn’t claim to know how anybody who was feels. I wonder if there are any regular posters here who were? Not that I would necessarily expect them to want to discuss the matter.

I’ve never lost someone I cared about as a result of another person’s actions. My understanding, though, has generally been that people find no joy or happiness when a person who took someone from them is brought to justice. I think it is more common to feel a sense of closure, to feel that the right thing has been done, but speaking personally, I can’t imagine finding any happiness in it. No amount of justice can ever bring a loved one back. Killing him does nothing to bring back the people he killed. He deserved to be punished and I support the actions taken, but I see nothing to CELEBRATE. I see no HAPPINESS in death.[/quote]

When you DO lose a loved one (which, I sincerely hope happens later than sooner), when you DO stand on ground zero and get chills even 10 years later, you will feel a sense of happiness when the piece of shit that Bin Laden was is pronounced dead.

I don’t expect you’ll ever feel some of the emotions that people have portrayed on this thread because you weren’t in NY on 9/11/01. I have family and friends who saw body parts laying amidst debris. People returning home to their families covered in dust, smelling of smoke. The skyline sending smoke hundreds of feet into the air.

I remember the exact moment I heard of the news on 9/11. I remember exactly what went through my head when the news first came on.

Scrounge up some of the 9/11 threads on here, read them, then rethink how the death of a person who was not only directly responsible for thousands of innocent deaths, and like bonez said, would kill you, me, our loved ones, and every other person in this country
in a heartbeat if he had the chance, then come back and offer your opionion.

You just don’t get the gravity of it all. You never will. [/quote]

I remember exactly where I was too. Everyone does. No I haven’t been there, no I haven’t lost anyone, and no I wasn’t directly affected by it, and I freely admit that. I don’t think I’ve said anything disrespectful to anybody, and the people who are acting like I am somehow saying he was a good guy, or that he didn’t deserve to die, are being ignorant. I will willingly admit that I don’t know what my opinion would be if the situation was different, if I were directly affected by this, or had been in some comparable situation.

All I can say is that I truly feel that if someone killed a loved one, I would very much want them to be punished. I would want them brought to justice, and possibly even killed. I agree with all of that. I just can’t see it making me happy. I can’t ever see anybody’s death making me want to smile and throw a party.

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Awesome.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

Youre off the deep end on this one man. What youre saying is unbelievably insulting to anyone who was directly affected by the deaths he caused. [/quote]

Were you directly affected by them? I was not, and I wouldn’t claim to know how anybody who was feels. I wonder if there are any regular posters here who were? Not that I would necessarily expect them to want to discuss the matter.

I’ve never lost someone I cared about as a result of another person’s actions. My understanding, though, has generally been that people find no joy or happiness when a person who took someone from them is brought to justice. I think it is more common to feel a sense of closure, to feel that the right thing has been done, but speaking personally, I can’t imagine finding any happiness in it. No amount of justice can ever bring a loved one back. Killing him does nothing to bring back the people he killed. He deserved to be punished and I support the actions taken, but I see nothing to CELEBRATE. I see no HAPPINESS in death.[/quote]

First question: yes. No one in my immediate family died, but I was affected in quite a few other ways. I was speaking for those who did suffer personal losses though, not neccessarily putting myself in that group.

“Your understanding” is not fully developed then.

I really cant believe you said “My understanding, though, has generally been that people find no joy or happiness when a person who took someone from them is brought to justice.”

You sound like an amazingly inexperienced child. Honestly, did you just make that up on the spot? How could there possibly be a ‘general emotion’ for something of this magnitude?

[/quote]

Just basing that on my amazing inexperience I suppose.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

When you DO lose a loved one (which, I sincerely hope happens later than sooner) [/quote]

Seriously?

Wow.[/quote]

I think you misread him. He’s saying that since it is inevitable that will happen, he hopes it happens later, not sooner.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

When you DO lose a loved one (which, I sincerely hope happens later than sooner) [/quote]

Seriously?

Wow.[/quote]

I think you misread him. He’s saying that since it is inevitable that will happen, he hopes it happens later, not sooner. [/quote]

haha yeah man I misread it at first too, but no, he meant it in a good way.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

You sound like an amazingly inexperienced child.
[/quote]

I was thinking this. He sounds like a dumbass college kid. [/quote]

Only one of us is using “fuck” and “dumbass” in place of meaningful conversation.

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

Youre off the deep end on this one man. What youre saying is unbelievably insulting to anyone who was directly affected by the deaths he caused. [/quote]

Were you directly affected by them? I was not, and I wouldn’t claim to know how anybody who was feels. I wonder if there are any regular posters here who were? Not that I would necessarily expect them to want to discuss the matter.

I’ve never lost someone I cared about as a result of another person’s actions. My understanding, though, has generally been that people find no joy or happiness when a person who took someone from them is brought to justice. I think it is more common to feel a sense of closure, to feel that the right thing has been done, but speaking personally, I can’t imagine finding any happiness in it. No amount of justice can ever bring a loved one back. Killing him does nothing to bring back the people he killed. He deserved to be punished and I support the actions taken, but I see nothing to CELEBRATE. I see no HAPPINESS in death.[/quote]

When you DO lose a loved one (which, I sincerely hope happens later than sooner), when you DO stand on ground zero and get chills even 10 years later, you will feel a sense of happiness when the piece of shit that Bin Laden was is pronounced dead.

I don’t expect you’ll ever feel some of the emotions that people have portrayed on this thread because you weren’t in NY on 9/11/01. I have family and friends who saw body parts laying amidst debris. People returning home to their families covered in dust, smelling of smoke. The skyline sending smoke hundreds of feet into the air.

I remember the exact moment I heard of the news on 9/11. I remember exactly what went through my head when the news first came on.

Scrounge up some of the 9/11 threads on here, read them, then rethink how the death of a person who was not only directly responsible for thousands of innocent deaths, and like bonez said, would kill you, me, our loved ones, and every other person in this country
in a heartbeat if he had the chance, then come back and offer your opionion.

You just don’t get the gravity of it all. You never will. [/quote]

I remember exactly where I was too. Everyone does. No I haven’t been there, no I haven’t lost anyone, and no I wasn’t directly affected by it, and I freely admit that. I don’t think I’ve said anything disrespectful to anybody, and the people who are acting like I am somehow saying he was a good guy, or that he didn’t deserve to die, are being ignorant. I will willingly admit that I don’t know what my opinion would be if the situation was different, if I were directly affected by this, or had been in some comparable situation. All I can say is that I truly feel that if someone killed a loved one, I would very much want them to be punished. I would want them brought to justice, and possibly even killed. I agree with all of that. I just can’t see it making me happy. I can’t ever see anybody’s death making me want to smile and throw a party.[/quote]

Can you tell me how I’m entitled to feel?

Here are my credentials: lost one cousin (who had a wife, no kids) in the first tower collapse and lost an old friend from high school in the second tower. My best friend from high school joined the Marines after 9/11, and despite being completely against the war in Iraq, he was sent there and then was killed when his helicopter was shot down in Tikrit. I have another cousin who is a SEAL in Afghanistan and whose scumbag wife ran off and left him for another man (and took the kids with her) while he was risking his life in one of the big military surges there a couple years ago.

I also have a friend who is Muslim and whose sister got the fucking shit beat out of her by a bunch of ignorant pieces of shit two days after 9/11 because she had the audacity to speak her mind at a party when these people were saying that all Muslims should be kicked out of the country.

So how am I allowed to react to this whole thing without offending your sense of morals?

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

When you DO lose a loved one (which, I sincerely hope happens later than sooner) [/quote]

Seriously?

Wow.[/quote]

I think you misread him. He’s saying that since it is inevitable that will happen, he hopes it happens later, not sooner. [/quote]

Oh right, I missed inevitable part.

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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:
I’m sorry but the people who feel sorry OBL is dead is like saying they’re sad Dahmer is dead. Hello!!! He’s a mass murderer!!! With NO conscience! A psychopath! His organization has no qualms about using women and children as suicide bombers! Osama is not a man. Osama was not a man. He was a target to be eliminated and we did exactly that. Good riddance to shitty rubbish!
[/quote]

There hasn’t been a single post, that I’ve seen, where “I’m sad he died,” or anything along those lines, has been said.[/quote]

Okay, maybe “sad” was not the proper word. More like…they feel bad, I really can’t think of the word I want to use. Remorse? Umm…I don’t know, but they are like he was a human being and we should not be rejoicing that he is no longer alive because he was a human with a soul and blah blah blah.

EDIT: Ah…see, I was talking about you when I said people feel bad he’s dead. Again, that’s like feeling bad Hitler died or Dahmer is dead. No fucking way will I feel bad that those people are dead. He deserves to be dead and at American hands. The fact that he used a WOMAN to shield him is even worse (just reported on CNN). My friend was supposed to work at the WTC on 9/11 and thankfully slept through his alarm. Don’t you dare feel bad that this psychopathic mass murderer is dead. You cheapen the people who died that day and the people who have died since then in this conflict.[/quote]

I guess you’re having trouble with what I said. I don’t feel bad that he’s dead. End of discussion. You, and a number of other people here, are ignoring what I’m actually saying and jumping to the “patriotic” reaction. You think I must hate America and “fuck you if you hate America” and all this crap. He deserved what he got. Again, he deserved it. I am not sad. Nobody has said they feel bad. Nobody is sad that he died. He deserved it.

Nobody’s sad.

ok?

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

You sound like an amazingly inexperienced child.
[/quote]

I was thinking this. He sounds like a dumbass college kid. [/quote]

Only one of us is using “fuck” and “dumbass” in place of meaningful conversation.[/quote]

Only one of us is even coming close to having a meaningful conversation, and it isn’t you. You’re talking out of your ass.

And clearly, you are a dumbass college kid.

[/quote]

ok, fuck you asshole. you’re a stupid piece of shit. suck my dick.

I guess this is how you have a meaningful conversation? Following your lead here.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

Youre off the deep end on this one man. What youre saying is unbelievably insulting to anyone who was directly affected by the deaths he caused. [/quote]

Were you directly affected by them? I was not, and I wouldn’t claim to know how anybody who was feels. I wonder if there are any regular posters here who were? Not that I would necessarily expect them to want to discuss the matter.

I’ve never lost someone I cared about as a result of another person’s actions. My understanding, though, has generally been that people find no joy or happiness when a person who took someone from them is brought to justice. I think it is more common to feel a sense of closure, to feel that the right thing has been done, but speaking personally, I can’t imagine finding any happiness in it. No amount of justice can ever bring a loved one back. Killing him does nothing to bring back the people he killed. He deserved to be punished and I support the actions taken, but I see nothing to CELEBRATE. I see no HAPPINESS in death.[/quote]

When you DO lose a loved one (which, I sincerely hope happens later than sooner), when you DO stand on ground zero and get chills even 10 years later, you will feel a sense of happiness when the piece of shit that Bin Laden was is pronounced dead.

I don’t expect you’ll ever feel some of the emotions that people have portrayed on this thread because you weren’t in NY on 9/11/01. I have family and friends who saw body parts laying amidst debris. People returning home to their families covered in dust, smelling of smoke. The skyline sending smoke hundreds of feet into the air.

I remember the exact moment I heard of the news on 9/11. I remember exactly what went through my head when the news first came on.

Scrounge up some of the 9/11 threads on here, read them, then rethink how the death of a person who was not only directly responsible for thousands of innocent deaths, and like bonez said, would kill you, me, our loved ones, and every other person in this country
in a heartbeat if he had the chance, then come back and offer your opionion.

You just don’t get the gravity of it all. You never will. [/quote]

I remember exactly where I was too. Everyone does. No I haven’t been there, no I haven’t lost anyone, and no I wasn’t directly affected by it, and I freely admit that. I don’t think I’ve said anything disrespectful to anybody, and the people who are acting like I am somehow saying he was a good guy, or that he didn’t deserve to die, are being ignorant. I will willingly admit that I don’t know what my opinion would be if the situation was different, if I were directly affected by this, or had been in some comparable situation. All I can say is that I truly feel that if someone killed a loved one, I would very much want them to be punished. I would want them brought to justice, and possibly even killed. I agree with all of that. I just can’t see it making me happy. I can’t ever see anybody’s death making me want to smile and throw a party.[/quote]

Can you tell me how I’m entitled to feel?

Here are my credentials: lost one cousin (who had a wife, no kids) in the first tower collapse and lost an old friend from high school in the second tower. My best friend from high school joined the Marines after 9/11, and despite being completely against the war in Iraq, he was sent there and then was killed when his helicopter was shot down in Tikrit. I have another cousin who is a SEAL in Afghanistan and whose scumbag wife ran off and left him for another man (and took the kids with her) while he was risking his life in one of the big military surges there a couple years ago.

I also have a friend who is Muslim and whose sister got the fucking shit beat out of her by a bunch of ignorant pieces of shit two days after 9/11 because she had the audacity to speak her mind at a party when these people were saying that all Muslims should be kicked out of the country.

So how am I allowed to react to this whole thing without offending your sense of morals?[/quote]

You’re allowed to react however you want. I didn’t say otherwise. I don’t agree with being happy with about it, but it’s your right to do so, and it’s my right to think that happiness inappropriate. I didn’t launch a personal attack on anybody, so I don’t think you should take personal offense to my opinions. However, you are entitled to feel whatever you want.

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:
suck my dick.

.[/quote]

Speaking of which… youre not stuffing those jockeys, are you?

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