Oregand(Davids) Training Log

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]Oregand wrote:

[quote]phlegms wrote:
Good stuff man. I feel you on the behind the neck presses, I wouldn’t reccommend them at all really except for if you want to strengthen the end position of the snatch. There are much less awkward ways to get shoulder strength up!

The RDLS look like you could do with lightening the weight by a bit though and bending the knees a little bit less. RDLS only ever started to feel effective for me when I went for reps and focused on feeling that stretch. Once the weight gets too heavy you start to use other muscle groups to get the weight up. Drag the bars right up your shins and stick the glutes out (without too much knee flexion/bend) to get the movement right.

Coach Ripps’ video explains the movement pretty well.
http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/platform_the_rdl[/quote]

Thanks man, im backing off the RDL’s for the minute as I seem to jack all out of them. I never felt it in my hammes but rather my calves and no amount of foam rolling seemed to help.

Guess its back to normal DL’S!
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Nah, I’d stick it out with the RDL’s. They are a good motion to learn and perfect and to have in your repertoire. Straighten your legs more…a little less knee bend, and as much as your knees are bent at the start, do not bend them anymore throughout the motion. Seriously, just cut your weight in half for a while and feel the stretch. Extend those hips back. Just to overemphasize this I’ll find myself balancing on my heels at the bottom of the motion with my toes off the ground, cuz I’m so far back with my hips. That loading your hammies will get under tension like that is pretty much unparalleled with other lifts.

And yea, like phlegms says…drop the behind the neck act.
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Right, behind the neck is out.

What I might do is DL maximal once every two weeks and on the sceond weak RDL to take a break from it, what do you think?

Thursday: OHP

Warm up

OHP: Top set - 62.5KG x 1

Pull ups: 50 reps

Close grip bench:
1 x 5 x 70KG
3 x 4 x 70KG
1 x 2 x 70KG

Complex:
3 Rounds

Video of OHP on the way, the quest too 2 plates is on.

Oh fuck, you’re catching me on the OHP. BRB GOTTA GO LIFT!

[quote]phlegms wrote:
Oh fuck, you’re catching me on the OHP. BRB GOTTA GO LIFT![/quote]

Fucking loling all over the place!

Two vids of my OHP, the second set was only for 1 as I was rightly owned.

[quote]Oregand wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]Oregand wrote:

[quote]phlegms wrote:
Good stuff man. I feel you on the behind the neck presses, I wouldn’t reccommend them at all really except for if you want to strengthen the end position of the snatch. There are much less awkward ways to get shoulder strength up!

The RDLS look like you could do with lightening the weight by a bit though and bending the knees a little bit less. RDLS only ever started to feel effective for me when I went for reps and focused on feeling that stretch. Once the weight gets too heavy you start to use other muscle groups to get the weight up. Drag the bars right up your shins and stick the glutes out (without too much knee flexion/bend) to get the movement right.

Coach Ripps’ video explains the movement pretty well.
http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/platform_the_rdl[/quote]

Thanks man, im backing off the RDL’s for the minute as I seem to jack all out of them. I never felt it in my hammes but rather my calves and no amount of foam rolling seemed to help.

Guess its back to normal DL’S!
[/quote]

Nah, I’d stick it out with the RDL’s. They are a good motion to learn and perfect and to have in your repertoire. Straighten your legs more…a little less knee bend, and as much as your knees are bent at the start, do not bend them anymore throughout the motion. Seriously, just cut your weight in half for a while and feel the stretch. Extend those hips back. Just to overemphasize this I’ll find myself balancing on my heels at the bottom of the motion with my toes off the ground, cuz I’m so far back with my hips. That loading your hammies will get under tension like that is pretty much unparalleled with other lifts.

And yea, like phlegms says…drop the behind the neck act.
[/quote]

Right, behind the neck is out.

What I might do is DL maximal once every two weeks and on the sceond weak RDL to take a break from it, what do you think?[/quote]

Wait, I just realized I never put RDL’s in that program I wrote up. Why are you doing RDL’s…lol? Yes, you should be deadlifting 1x/week with the 5/3/2 set up.

Friday:

Warm up

DL: Top set - 170KG x2

Front Squats:
5 x 5 x 70KG

PLank:
4 x 1 Min

Complex:
3 Rounds

Tried 180 again today and the bar didnt budge, ill work my way back up slowly.

5x10

Monday:

Warm up

Bench
4 x 10 x 60KG
1 x 7 x 60KG

BB Row
5 X 10 - 15 X 50KG

Push press
4 X 5 - 6 X 42.5KG

Bear x 5

Bear = Clean from floor, front squat, push press, back squat, BTNP and clean back to floor.

5X10 is a decpetive little workout, by set 5 I wanted it to end.

Bear? Is that a crossfit complex? Oh shit, Davids gone to the dark side…

[quote]phlegms wrote:
Bear? Is that a crossfit complex? Oh shit, Davids gone to the dark side…[/quote]

Jesus man, no f**king way.

Its from chaos and pain! I love the guy and his attitude towards training, the bear is his little creation of death.

[quote]Oregand wrote:

[quote]phlegms wrote:
Bear? Is that a crossfit complex? Oh shit, Davids gone to the dark side…[/quote]

Jesus man, no f**king way.

Its from chaos and pain! I love the guy and his attitude towards training, the bear is his little creation of death.[/quote]

Good stuff man, I was about to come round to your house and kick you square in the nuts. Don’t scare me again like that brah’ :stuck_out_tongue:

Training’s lookin good man. Keep up the good work.

Training’s lookin good man. Keep up the good work.

[quote]phlegms wrote:

[quote]Oregand wrote:

[quote]phlegms wrote:
Bear? Is that a crossfit complex? Oh shit, Davids gone to the dark side…[/quote]

Jesus man, no f**king way.

Its from chaos and pain! I love the guy and his attitude towards training, the bear is his little creation of death.[/quote]

Good stuff man, I was about to come round to your house and kick you square in the nuts. Don’t scare me again like that brah’ :p[/quote]

Please don’t do that man, i like my nuts!

[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
Training’s lookin good man. Keep up the good work.[/quote]

Thanks man, cool to see you stopping by.

Tuesday:

Warm up

Squats:
5 x 10 x 60KG

BB lunge:
30KG x 5 x 20

GHR:
4 x 10

Bear x 8

Bam! that deadlift came out of nowhere man - awesome when that happens.
OHP - still need to work on that upper back/shoulder flexibility man, and push you head through when the bar gets above it - it’ll really help on the lockout

[quote]caveman101 wrote:
Bam! that deadlift came out of nowhere man - awesome when that happens.
OHP - still need to work on that upper back/shoulder flexibility man, and push you head through when the bar gets above it - it’ll really help on the lockout[/quote]

Yeah I was so happy when I got all 4 plates on, some milestone.

My OHP O’s definatly my weakest movement, lots of shoulder rehab for me and thanks for the tip. Used it today and felt my lockout being much stronger.

Thursday:

Warm up

OHP:
2 x 10 x 40KG(Mixed up plates)
3 x 10 x 35KG

Pull ups:
54 reps

CGBP:
6 x 8 x 40KG

Bear x 10

Looking good man, keep it up!