Oregand(Davids) Training Log

Saturday:

Rest

Cardio:
BB complex
8 cleans
8 mil press
8 back squat
8 front squat
8 snatch grip dead lifts

30KG and done 4 times.

On a lighter note my hair is bloody fuzzy today.

Though I am having a bit of a moral delimma. Well it’s more of “what the he’ll shoukd I be doing”.

To put things generously I am very weak, very weak and this is a massive problem that I’m trying to fix as most of us are lol.

My problem is that ATM I’m sittig at about 14% bf and I am unsure of how to approach things. I know I need food to gain strenght but I can’t help wonder would I be bette off losing some bf?

I really don’t know, arm my main goal is to gain strenght but how should I eat to develope that? Do I just maintain my weight? Do I try to lose some fat while still trying to add weight to the bar?

In the end I’m just a tad confused about how to do things.

From what I can see though by reading a bit of dave draphers stuff, it seems like I need to build a soils foundation to work with before I go about leaning down.

I really have no clue but here’s the way I think about it, I’m weak and by most accounts in tiny(166) to be precise. So I hunk it’s best if I just try to build myself up by eating a diet that will maintain my weight forth most part and help support muscle growth.

Saturday:

Rest

Cardio:
BB complex
8 cleans
8 mil press
8 back squat
8 front squat
8 snatch grip dead lifts

30KG and done 4 times.

On a lighter note my hair is bloody fuzzy today.

Though I am having a bit of a moral delimma. Well it’s more of “what the he’ll shoukd I be doing”.

To put things generously I am very weak, very weak and this is a massive problem that I’m trying to fix as most of us are lol.

My problem is that ATM I’m sittig at about 14% bf and I am unsure of how to approach things. I know I need food to gain strenght but I can’t help wonder would I be bette off losing some bf?

I really don’t know, arm my main goal is to gain strenght but how should I eat to develope that? Do I just maintain my weight? Do I try to lose some fat while still trying to add weight to the bar?

In the end I’m just a tad confused about how to do things.

From what I can see though by reading a bit of dave draphers stuff, it seems like I need to build a soils foundation to work with before I go about leaning down.

I really have no clue but here’s the way I think about it, I’m weak and by most accounts in tiny(166) to be precise. So I hunk it’s best if I just try to build myself up by eating a diet that will maintain my weight forth most part and help support muscle growth.

All I’m gonna say is fuck this retarded spell check on the iPod.

It really makes me out to be an illiterate bastard, when in reality I’m just a lazy bastard because I couldn’t be arsed going back and fixing all those spell check mistakes.

Sunday
Rest

Cardio: 45 Min walk with X vest and Molly.

Last weeks goals:

  1. Nail 4 sets of deep squats with 75KG on Tuesday(Nailed)
  2. Beat last weeks dead lifts 3 rep max of 80KG(Nailed)
  3. Nail my 3 rep max box squat for 120KG on Friday(Not nailed)

New goals
1)Dead lift over 100KG
2) Front squat more than 40KG for at least 3 reps(ass too grass)
3) Snatch at least 30KG

Stats 6/2/2011
Height: 179cm
Weight: 166 lbs too 169.4 lbs
BF%: 16.1% too 17%
LBM: 140.11 lbs too 140.02 lbs

Measurements:
Chest: 42 Inchs
Waist: 34 Inchs
Arms: 13.5 Inchs
Calves: 14 Inchs
Thighs: 24 Inchs

So this week im gonna give Kcla counting a miss and see what happens with some instinctive eating.

Im gonna eat 5 meals a day, no snacking but at meals im simply going to eat until im satisfied but not uncomfortable.

First 2 meals will be P and C, last 3 will be P and F

Also Ive virtually elimated all carbs from my diet that arnt veggies or fruit, im going to give the anabolic diet a serious shot and see what comes out of it.

Hi David,

I definitely appreciate your post. The encouragement is great and (possibly) needed, haha. My regression is disheartening. I’ll be following your work, man!

If I could ask you about your failed bulking experience–could you write me a bit more about it? Last year, I gained 40 pounds, but slowly and with no body fat gain. This time, I’d like to rebound faster, and I’d like my progression to not hit plateaus. That said, I’d be lying to myself if I didn’t admit that I’m worried about getting heavy again (I used to be 250 lbs in high school). So what went wrong? What would you do if you were to do it over again?

Best wishes,
The3Commandments

Monday: Upper Body Max effort
Weights:

Warm up:
5 Min Stretchs
1 BB complex @ 25KG

A) Incline bench press: 5 sets, 3 rep max
Set 1: 10 reps, 30KG
Set 2: 8 reps, 32.5KG
Set 3: 6 reps, 35KG
Set 4: 4 reps, 40KG
Set 5: 3 reps, 42.5KG

B) BB bent over rows: 4 sets, 6 - 10 reps
Set 1: 11 reps, 50KG
Set 2: 10 reps, 50KG
Set 3: 10 reps, 50KG
Set 4: 10 reps, 50KG

39 reps total too 41 reps

C) DB Flat bench press: 4 sets, 6 - 10 reps
Set 1: 8 reps, 20KG
Set 2: 8 reps, 20KG
Set 3: 8 reps, 20KG
Set 4: 8 Reps, 20KG

35 reps total too 36 reps

D) BB Push Press: 3 sets, 12 - 15 reps
Set 1: 12 reps, 25KG
Set 2: 11 reps, 25KG
Set 3: 10 reps, 25KG

reps N/A

Cardio:

20 Min incline walk

Today was a great workout up until the very end.

I was saving my DB power cleans for last as I really like them as an exercise(do what you hate first) but by the time I was gunning to do em some bastard had nicked the DB’s i needed for my sets.

He had 3 sets of DB at his feet and was super setting rows with curls with overhead presses, I just kept thinking wtf.

Anyway I asked if I could use them when he was finished and he told me hed be using them for his entire workout, again I was thinking wtf. SO I asked I could work in and borrow them as I only had 3 sets too do and he told me that wouldnt work as it would mess up his flow.

I counted to 10 and walked away before I force fed him the fucking DB.

The psuh press was seriously good though, I used the FAT GRIPZ while doing them and by the end I couldnt even close my hand ha.

[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
Hi David,

I definitely appreciate your post. The encouragement is great and (possibly) needed, haha. My regression is disheartening. I’ll be following your work, man!

If I could ask you about your failed bulking experience–could you write me a bit more about it? Last year, I gained 40 pounds, but slowly and with no body fat gain. This time, I’d like to rebound faster, and I’d like my progression to not hit plateaus. That said, I’d be lying to myself if I didn’t admit that I’m worried about getting heavy again (I used to be 250 lbs in high school). So what went wrong? What would you do if you were to do it over again?

Best wishes,
The3Commandments[/quote]

No bother man and trust me its not that bad. You already have the knowledge and you’ve done it once so you know you can do it again. Having that experience is worth its weight in gold but never the less its always nice to know people can see your commitment.

My god 40 pounds with little fat gain? Wtf was your secret? haha. Seriously though thats god dam impressive, personally id be happy with 10 pounds in a year:P

Well what happen to me was, I started very heavy. I was around 200 lbs with about 30% BF, seriously chumky. After finding out about nutrition and Kcals etc I dieted for the best part of a year and dropped to 150 soaking wet.

I managed to get a 4 pack but couldnt get rid of the last bit of flab, so I started dieting harder and doing more cardio(at my worst I was doing a 2 hour weighted cycle 6 days a week). Anyway, the flab stayed where it was and I just became really small and flabby lol.

So Just after September ended I decided I would try and bulk up. My goal was too do it slowly, only add 250 Kcals a week and keep all my foods clean(I was terrified of getting fat again after having lost it all).

That was my plan but what actually happened was very very very different. I went totally stir fucking crazy with food, im talking no self restraint what so ever.

Now in saying that, all my meals where clean. I didnt eat junk food at all, I think the closest I came too shit food was fatty steak. I was eating, oatmeal, rice, potato’s, salmon, whey, steak, carrots, peppers, apples, bananas and dried fruit. Things like that made up my diet.

The disasters always happened when I came home. Since im in collage, I would take in 5 out of my 6 mmeals before I got home and usually id be right on point Kcal wise. Id have about 400 Kcals left for my last meal.

SO when I came in I would be starving(I would have already eaten about 2700 Kcals by this stage), since my last meal was an hour away I would snack until meal time.

One day I came home and ate, 10 apples, 6 bananas and half a bag of raisins in a half hour sitting. Then half an hour later I would eat a steak or two with at least 3 lbs of veggies like broccoli or peppers or onions etc.

Basically I would eat enough to shame most BB’s and still be hungry, it was fucking crazy. Simply put I was never full, ever. I was always hungry. And id justify eating that amount of food because It was all clean food and I was bulking up.

AN example would be one Saturday(as a snack before my meal no 3) I ate 2 lbs of mince meat and about 700 grams of brown rice. It was ridiculous, I dont know how I ate it all but it was like the more I ate the hungrier I became, I even remember thinking “Well if im this hungry my body must need it”.

My effort in the gym was a joke though. I would hit the weight 5 days a week but I didn’t even know what intensity ment. Also there was no compound movements in my program, twas all accessory movements save pull ups.

Anyway, I know ill never have a issue putting up weight. My problem is trying to make sure its good weight lol.

If I could do it over again, I wouldnt simply. Im too weak atm to be thinking about bulking/cutting. I simpy need to get stronger before I start thinking about astectics. Like Arnold looked the shit but he could also squat 400 lbs.

My problem was jumping straight into the BB aspect of it and not trying to develop a decent foundation to work with first.

So thats what im doing now, im trying to develop a good base to work with before I even consider bulking/cutting.

Well that was my little disaster, pretty funny if you think about it. Like I was breaking 3000 Kcals in one meal from veggies, oil and meat. Makes me kinda sad to read about guys who cant put on weight cause they cant eat.

The stats for the 6 weeks where
Start)
WEight: 150lbs
Bf: 10%
Daily Kcals: 2400

Finish)
WEight: 186 Lbs
bf: 20%
Daily Kcals: 4500-6000(My best being the sat I ate all that mince, 10, 452 Kcals. That has to be some kinda fucking record seeing as it was on oatmeal, mince, rice, chicken and fruit.)

Note: Carrots where also a massive problem for me, I read some where arnold recommend them even when cutting and like the idiot I am took that as a green light to eat!!!

In an evening Id usually have one or two KG bags of carrots(raw, as a snack). And that would be everyday. On the weekends I could easily eat around 4 KG bags a day just as snacks as id just walk down the road and buy 10 bags for 5 euro lol.

When you say that you don’t care about bulking/cutting right now and are focusing on strength, you do mean that you’re technically in a ‘bulk’ phase, right (assuming we want to maintain the dichotomy).

Right now, I’m getting that base of strength back. I miss pullups a lot. I miss feeling strong. I’m going to get it back.

But as far as my gains last year, it’s a couple of things:

-I run in the morning, which might have something to do with it.
-When I was 250, I wasn’t a sloppy 250. Sure, I had some fat on me and something of a belly, but I’m built to be able to be 200 lbs with 10% body fat. Ha, or at least I like to trick myself into believing that :P.

My last bulk was dirty as all hell. Because I was so starved, I was basically just downing ice cream, peanut butter–anything I could get my hands on. I had great results doing that. This time, I’m taking a similar calorie approach, but I’m trying to be a bit more scientific about my food choices–this time, I’m going low carb/very high protein and seeing where I end up.

[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
When you say that you don’t care about bulking/cutting right now and are focusing on strength, you do mean that you’re technically in a ‘bulk’ phase, right (assuming we want to maintain the dichotomy).

Right now, I’m getting that base of strength back. I miss pullups a lot. I miss feeling strong. I’m going to get it back.

But as far as my gains last year, it’s a couple of things:

-I run in the morning, which might have something to do with it.
-When I was 250, I wasn’t a sloppy 250. Sure, I had some fat on me and something of a belly, but I’m built to be able to be 200 lbs with 10% body fat. Ha, or at least I like to trick myself into believing that :P.

My last bulk was dirty as all hell. Because I was so starved, I was basically just downing ice cream, peanut butter–anything I could get my hands on. I had great results doing that. This time, I’m taking a similar calorie approach, but I’m trying to be a bit more scientific about my food choices–this time, I’m going low carb/very high protein and seeing where I end up.[/quote]

Well this time I’ve stopped counting Kcals.

What I’m doing is eating 5 meals, I’ll eat until I’m full and then won’t snack till my next meal.

This time I’m just trying to listen to my body but not snacking. I’m not going to constantly graze like i did last time but rather eat sporadically.

I suppose you could say I’m still on a bulk as I am trying to gain strenght and am eating at around matinace or just above it to support the strenght gains, if they stall I’ll start eating a little more.

I’m on a high fat and very low carb diet, no dairy at all and my only grains are 30 grams of oatmeal in the morning(which I’m slowly eliminating).

Tbh I’m not sure how I should be eating so I’m going to try this instinctive eating a d see hiw it treats me.

when are you training in relation to the carb intake? that seems relly low if you are, if not bulking, trying to build strength

[quote]caveman101 wrote:
when are you training in relation to the carb intake? that seems relly low if you are, if not bulking, trying to build strength[/quote]

What ill do on training days is:

Ill wake up and have breakfast, 30 grams of carbs or less from oatmeal with about 30 grams of carbs from fruit like apples or berries.

The an hour and a half or so later ill train.

Then about 20 Mins after I finish my training, ill have around 60 - 70 grams if carbs from fruit again(always apples) coupled with some form of protein(tuna, salmon, liver, chicken etc)

So it totals at in or around 130 grams of carbs mostly from fruits, then I eat green veggies to my hearts content.

What do ya think?

Tuesday: Lower Body Max effort

WArm Up)
Stretching
1 Complex

A)
Dead lift:
70KG X 10 reps
80KG X 8 reps
90KG X 6 reps
100KG X 4 reps
120KG X 3 reps

B)
Snatch grip dead lifts
50KG X 5 reps
50KG X 5 reps
50KG X 5 reps
50KG X 3 reps

18 reps total

C)
Split leg Squat
15KG X 10 reps
15KF X 10 reps
15KG X 10 reps

30 reps each leg

D)
Weighted Hypers
15 KG X 11 reps
15KG X 10 reps

E)
Planks
0KG X 45 seconds
0KG X 45 seconds
0KG X 45 seconds

Cardio:

20 min incline walk

Man today was a fucking disaster lol.

I was chuffed about the dead lift, 3 plates on each side, now all I gotta do is get that too 6 plates and ill be set.

Anyway, I was training with Nadia for the snatch grip dead lifts, she stood behind me with her hands on my hips and psuhed me down into them as far as I could go.

On the 4th set I knew I was gonna hurl, I could just feel it coming. Long story short, I dropped the barbell, ran to the window and threw my guts up. Fucking disaster, hilarious alright but a fucking disaster.

Anyway, besides that it was a good workout.

Decided Id put into writing hat I want to accomplish during this year, got the idea from the 3commandments, I like his log. If you have the time I defiantly recommend checking him out.

Strength:
By July: 80KG front Squat x6 reps
By July: 150KG deadlift x3 reps
By July: 80KG flat bench press x 4 reps

By December: 150KG back Squat x3
By December: 180KG deadlift x2
By December: 100KG FLat bench x3 reps

The squats are Dependant on weather or not I get access to the varisty gym in a few months or not.

The dead lifts are my main goal as I fucking love dead lifts, I persoanally dont think there is a better display of strength(since I cant squat due to lack of rack) than dead lifts so ill be going all pout to dead lift as much as I can.

If I get access to a rack the squats will be right up there with my dead lifts, the becnh isnt really that important to me but Its still something I want.

I remember this article: One Hundred Gram Carb Cure

making a lot of sense when I was trying to figure out what my macros should be during my cut. Not sure how applicable this will be to your main goal of strength increases though.

[quote]phlegms wrote:
I remember this article: One Hundred Gram Carb Cure

making a lot of sense when I was trying to figure out what my macros should be during my cut. Not sure how applicable this will be to your main goal of strength increases though. [/quote]

Yeah Im pretty low carb atm even though im trying to gain strength but thats because im commiting to the high fat diet to see what kind of gains I get with it.

id say my macros are breaking down too 40/20/40 P/C/F

Honestly, David, I think that your goals might be a bit modest. It’s always hard to predict, but I would think that if you hit July’s, then you’ll make those December goals by October. Ha, then again, I feel like my goals are exceedingly arbitrary, so who am I to talk?

[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
Honestly, David, I think that your goals might be a bit modest. It’s always hard to predict, but I would think that if you hit July’s, then you’ll make those December goals by October. Ha, then again, I feel like my goals are exceedingly arbitrary, so who am I to talk?[/quote]

Now that’s inspiring man.

I’m just gonna worry about july’s goals for the minute, when I reach those goals I’ll re think the December ones:p

Wednesday:
Rest

Cardio:
Sweet fuck all

Had my first Olympic training session yesterday with our coach, Harry.

Fuck me it was the mots brutal thing ive ever done and we didn’t even put any weight on the bar. It was amazing though, he told me all about posture, showed me loads of soft tissue work and taught me hpw to open up my hip flexors and shoulders.

According to him, I have a pelvic tilt that causes me to favor my right side when squatting and this will seriously destroy me if I want to use big weight with the snatch. Also, my right shoulder is very tight and I am going to need a lot of stretching to fix the issue.

Lastly he took me through my front and back squat, he told me that im using a very wide stance which is fine for power lifting when im doing my own training but for the snatch and clean and jerk im going to have to learn to use a smaller stance lest I rip my grion lol.

Twas brilliant, worked the snatch and hang for a while and I gotta say Ive never been this sore. Hes really opened my eyes up too mobility, posture and the need for both dynamic and static stretching.

Cant wait to get into this big time.

Oh! and before I forget, Hary also explained that total body movements like the Olympic lifts increase testosterone production levels. Fucking A!

Thursday: UpperBody(Reps)

Weights:

Warm up)
Strechs
1 complex @ 25KG

A)
Push ups/Wide grip
33 reps X 0KG
27 reps X 0KG
21 reps X 0KG

B) Pull ups
12 reps X 2.5KG(Fast)
10 reps X 2.5KG(Fast)
6 reps X 2.5KG(Slow)
4 reps x 0KG(Slow)

C) Skull crushes
8 reps x15KG
5 reps X 15KG
6 reps X 15KG
5 reps X 15KG

D) DB press
8 reps X 15KG
6 reps X 15KG
6 reps X 15KG

E)EZ curls
10 reps X 20KG
8 reps X 20KG
6 reps X 20KG

F) DB Shrugs
11 reps X 24KG
11 reps X 24KG
11 reps X 24KG

Cardio:
20 Min incline walk

Today was a good workout. I switched from using a straight barbell to using an EZ barbell to do my curls and skull crushes.

The EZ barbell with the fat grpiz kicked my fucking ass up and down the gym, my forearms felt like they were stone after I finished.

Also Ive started doing pull ups properly, I can do pull ups alright but I was speeding through them and not lowering myself all the way. Ive rectified this problem and while it means ill be doing less reps it means my form will be better.

Lastly, im dropping the shrugs and replacing the DB press with push presses from now on.

More Olympic training tonight! Cant wait boy!

Oh and on a slightly funny note I ate 1.5 KG of broccoli last night in one sitting and wasnt even close to full. WTF is wrong with me?

Friday: Lower Body(Max)

Weights:

Warm up)

Dynamic stretching
1 Complex @ 25KG

A)Free Squats
Front Squat, 10 reps X 30KG
Front Squat, 8 reps X 32.5KG
Back Squat, 6 reps X 35KG
Back Squat, 4 reps X 40KG
Back Squat, 3 reps X 60KG

B) R Dead lifts
6 reps X 75KG
8 reps X 75KG
6 reps X 75KG
6 reps X 75KG

34 reps total

C) BB step ups, reps per leg
9 reps X 40KG
10 reps X 40KG
9 reps X 40KG
9 reps X 40KG

74 reps total

D) DB holds
10 Secs X 10KG
14 Secs X 10KG
8 Secs X 10KG

E) Side planks
30 secs X 0KG
30 secs X 0KG
30 secs X 0KG

Cardio:

20 Min incline walk

I manged to find a way to set the bench rack up that I can use it almost like a squat rack. Its at a bit of an angle though so I don’t think ill be going massively heavy any time soon for fear of doing damage to myself. Its still nice thought to be able to get some back squats in, im pretty new to free squatting so im going to take it slow and steady as I get the weight up.

Also, at training last night I manged to preform my first clean and jerk, nothing amazing 60KG but even still I was pretty happy to get that bar over my head. My snatch is pretty awful but thats due to my stance(too wide) and my shoulder which is very tight and quite rounded from all the pressing I did when I started lifting weights.

There not major problems im im hoping they will fix themselves as I keep trying the lifts.