A better exercise for shoulders would be Gorilla Rows. I’m pretty sure, that’s how ProfessorX got his shoulders so big. What you do is hang upsidedown by your legs from a pull-up bar or a sturdy tree branch with a banana in your mouth (unpeeled) while holding a pair of dumbbells (you might want to start light to develop some mind muscle connection). Hold the dumbbells straight out in front of you and then start beating your chest with them one arm at a time. 4 sets of 15-20 reps should work good for this exercise. A good little trick you can do to help build up your traps a bit more is after each set, drop the dumbbells, bring your arms up to your sides flex your traps hard, let go of the branch and drop on your head. The impact will really stress the traps and favor hypertrophy. When you’ve completed all sets, eat the banana. Hope that helps.
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LOL!
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
A better exercise for shoulders would be Gorilla Rows. I’m pretty sure, that’s how ProfessorX got his shoulders so big. What you do is hang upsidedown by your legs from a pull-up bar or a sturdy tree branch with a banana in your mouth (unpeeled) while holding a pair of dumbbells (you might want to start light to develop some mind muscle connection). Hold the dumbbells straight out in front of you and then start beating your chest with them one arm at a time. 4 sets of 15-20 reps should work good for this exercise. A good little trick you can do to help build up your traps a bit more is after each set, drop the dumbbells, bring your arms up to your sides flex your traps hard, let go of the branch and drop on your head. The impact will really stress the traps and favor hypertrophy. When you’ve completed all sets, eat the banana. Hope that helps.[/quote]
WHAT?!..unpeeled?
So that’s why my shoulders suck
So PX, bonez, etc:
what exactly is the correct form for lateral db raises?
Today (legs/mid delts) after my leg workout I did the maching lateral raises where your arms are bent 90 degrees and the side of the forearm is on the pad. Besides the fact that it kind of feels like something is being “pinched” on the top of my shoulder when I do the first couple sets, it felt pretty good…
but then I did standing db raises and I feel discomfort and weirdness in my shoulders…It felt better when I keep my arms completely straight, but if there is any bend my shoulders feel weird.
Do you guys think I am fine with just the machine side raises?
Form for lateral raises is simple. Start with your palms facing you and keep them facing down as you raise the dumbbells up to your shoulder level. At the end of the movement your elbow should be in line with your hand and you should be able to see a “top down” view of your biceps in the mirror. Basically don’t ever let your hand be higher than your elbow on this movement, slight bend in the elbow is OK.
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
Form for lateral raises is simple. Start with your palms facing you and keep them facing down as you raise the dumbbells up to your shoulder level. At the end of the movement your elbow should be in line with your hand and you should be able to see a “top down” view of your biceps in the mirror. Basically don’t ever let your hand be higher than your elbow on this movement, slight bend in the elbow is OK.[/quote]
THis.
ALthough, side lateral raises with cables while leaning away from the weight stack is superior than laterals with a dumbell. Dumbells only provide so much resistance throughout the ROM. Lean away cable side laterals provide resistance throughout the whole ROM
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
Form for lateral raises is simple. Start with your palms facing you and keep them facing down as you raise the dumbbells up to your shoulder level. At the end of the movement your elbow should be in line with your hand and you should be able to see a “top down” view of your biceps in the mirror. Basically don’t ever let your hand be higher than your elbow on this movement, slight bend in the elbow is OK.[/quote]
THis.
ALthough, side lateral raises with cables while leaning away from the weight stack is superior than laterals with a dumbell. Dumbells only provide so much resistance throughout the ROM. Lean away cable side laterals provide resistance throughout the whole ROM[/quote]
Agreed, I much prefer cable raises to dumbbell raises although I do both. I go pretty heavy on the cable raises, then go lighter, higher reps on the dumbbells and finish with a dropset running the rack. My delts are blowing up.
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
My delts are blowing up.[/quote]
No shit…looks like your freakin shoulder is going to POP in your avatar!!! Awesome.
newb question
is there a strength level that should be attained in dumbbell lateral raises before going onto other exercises.
ex: i did the 30’s for 10 reps today as a PR. soon, i should be hitting the 40’s. is there a minimum level of strength in basic lateral raises i should achieve before going onto more advanced techniques and exercises.
[quote]deadliftgoal500 wrote:
newb question
is there a strength level that should be attained in dumbbell lateral raises before going onto other exercises.
ex: i did the 30’s for 10 reps today as a PR. soon, i should be hitting the 40’s. is there a minimum level of strength in basic lateral raises i should achieve before going onto more advanced techniques and exercises. [/quote]
Drop the side laterals when the gym’s dumbells arent heavy enough.
Why do you think this is an ‘either or’ question? Surely you do more than one thing for medial delts, no?
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
Form for lateral raises is simple. Start with your palms facing you and keep them facing down as you raise the dumbbells up to your shoulder level. At the end of the movement your elbow should be in line with your hand and you should be able to see a “top down” view of your biceps in the mirror. Basically don’t ever let your hand be higher than your elbow on this movement, slight bend in the elbow is OK.[/quote]
THis.
ALthough, side lateral raises with cables while leaning away from the weight stack is superior than laterals with a dumbell. Dumbells only provide so much resistance throughout the ROM. Lean away cable side laterals provide resistance throughout the whole ROM[/quote]
For those not (always) training in a gym: attach a resistance band to the db.
By the by, since I’ve been wondering for a long time and English isn’t my first language:
why do people refer to lateral raises as side laterals? Isn’t ‘side’ already implied by / semantically contained in ‘laterals’?
[quote]FattyFat wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
Form for lateral raises is simple. Start with your palms facing you and keep them facing down as you raise the dumbbells up to your shoulder level. At the end of the movement your elbow should be in line with your hand and you should be able to see a “top down” view of your biceps in the mirror. Basically don’t ever let your hand be higher than your elbow on this movement, slight bend in the elbow is OK.[/quote]
THis.
ALthough, side lateral raises with cables while leaning away from the weight stack is superior than laterals with a dumbell. Dumbells only provide so much resistance throughout the ROM. Lean away cable side laterals provide resistance throughout the whole ROM[/quote]
For those not (always) training in a gym: attach a resistance band to the db.
By the by, since I’ve been wondering for a long time and English isn’t my first language:
why do people refer to lateral raises as side laterals? Isn’t ‘side’ already implied by / semantically contained in ‘laterals’?
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I think it’s an amalgamation of side raises and lateral raises. It’s one of those common things like a lot of people who say bicepT and tricepT even though there’s no T in either of those words.
[quote]FattyFat wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
Form for lateral raises is simple. Start with your palms facing you and keep them facing down as you raise the dumbbells up to your shoulder level. At the end of the movement your elbow should be in line with your hand and you should be able to see a “top down” view of your biceps in the mirror. Basically don’t ever let your hand be higher than your elbow on this movement, slight bend in the elbow is OK.[/quote]
THis.
ALthough, side lateral raises with cables while leaning away from the weight stack is superior than laterals with a dumbell. Dumbells only provide so much resistance throughout the ROM. Lean away cable side laterals provide resistance throughout the whole ROM[/quote]
For those not (always) training in a gym: attach a resistance band to the db.
By the by, since I’ve been wondering for a long time and English isn’t my first language:
why do people refer to lateral raises as side laterals? Isn’t ‘side’ already implied by / semantically contained in ‘laterals’?
[/quote]
Because redundant bodybuilding bodybuilders are redundant.
There is more than one kind of lateral raise…side and rear lateral delt raise. Bodybuilders aren’t as dumb as some of you think
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There is more than one kind of lateral raise…side and rear lateral delt raise.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Bodybuilders aren’t as dumb as some of you think
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Nobody did say that. -.-
I have a question regarding traps, are traps composed of mainly slow twitch muscles or fast twitch? I mean the part of traps that is above the shoulders,which shrugs/armpit rows targets.
[quote]minsarale wrote:
I have a question regarding traps, are traps composed of mainly slow twitch muscles or fast twitch? I mean the part of traps that is above the shoulders,which shrugs targets.[/quote]
Just go lift weights and eat, dude.
[quote]minsarale wrote:
I have a question regarding traps, are traps composed of mainly slow twitch muscles or fast twitch? I mean the part of traps that is above the shoulders,which shrugs/armpit rows targets.[/quote]
I hate you
Kingbeef- ok sounds simple, if I do db’s again I will just kee my arms straight no bend.
Bonez- I have seen you mention these leaning cable laterals before… Just did a couple searches but can’t find you describing form… Do you have a link to a video, or can you briefly describe the form for these?
Thanks man
Hold on to an upright on the cable machine or anything sturdy and put your feet by it… lean away from it. Do a side lateral.
Everybody do the dinosaur.