[quote]FlatsFarmer wrote:
Big news from the FDA! Oxycontin is OK for kids!
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start them early i guess.
Years ago, a pretty good business model was to occupy Afghanistan, collect opium, and sell it to people you didn’t give a shit about. I think there was a war about this specific practice once.
[quote]FlatsFarmer wrote:
Years ago, a pretty good business model was to occupy Afghanistan, collect opium, and sell it to people you didn’t give a shit about. I think there was a war about this specific practice once.
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Hey-Oh!
I also heard that the CIA fronted tons of cocaine to Freeway Ricky Ross.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
I think there are many things I’d rather spend my money and time on. Also having kids changes things a lot as they emulate us in every way. I try very hard to be a good example and not do things that I wouldn’t like my kids to be doing as they get older. That way they can’t call me a hypocrite. Used to smoke in high school but you gotta grow up sooner or later. Smoking pot is for high school once you are a man it’s time to drink beer and/or whiskey. Just kidding sort of. [/quote]
You do realize that pot is a lot cheaper than booze, right?
[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
^ true that…face it…most people enjoy it, its less harmful then booze, and its on its way to being legal everywhere… We could argue it all day & night but thats a fact… light up bitches[/quote]
To be honest, people that promote the “get fucked up, it’s the point of life” lifestyle you celebrate around here is really a lot of the reason the negative stereotypes of weed persist.
I’m not calling you out as much as the whole “druggie” party scene isn’t doing anyone any favors when it comes to the normalization of weed.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
You do realize that pot is a lot cheaper than booze, right?[/quote]
totally depends on what quality shit you are smoking/drink volume & frequency too. (And if you’re a habitual drunk or not, where you become a two beer queer again.)
I can get wasted daily on less than even the most frugal smoker is getting high, if I wanted to. But It’s drinking dirt booze.
All that said
I might tie one on tonight… It’s been a long week.
With a little weed, it will take less booze to get where you want to be.
We don’t have to pick sides, drugs work best when you mix them.
[quote]FlatsFarmer wrote:
With a little weed, it will take you too a place you dont’ want to you want to be.
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Fixed that so it’s accurate for me personally.
I’m not taking sides, but face it, booze is normalized, weed isn’t. If people want it to be, talking about hard party and “mixing” etc isn’t the way to do it. You can talk like that once it IS normalized, but until then, there is a double standard, and the simple fact is the “get fucked up” way of life as it pertains to drugs, including weed (and booze to a decent number of people) isn’t going to normalize it.
Statements like: “I like to come home from a hard day at work, burn one, eat a cupcake and get a good nights rest rather than have a beer” normalize it.
Ones like “mix your drugs” and “lite up” give a lot fo people pause. Because it sounds a lot like “frat party, and rock star wanna be junkie” in the minds of squares.
[quote]FlatsFarmer wrote:
We don’t have to pick sides[/quote]
society has already picked a side, and alcoholism won. It’s everywhere, and has been posted here before that alcohol has “been woven into the fabric of our society.”
I’m beating a dead horse but alcohol is far and away worse for an individual and society than thc.
but you know, being an “adult” with alcoholism is more acceptable than using thc for some reason.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
^ true that…face it…most people enjoy it, its less harmful then booze, and its on its way to being legal everywhere… We could argue it all day & night but thats a fact… light up bitches[/quote]
To be honest, people that promote the “get fucked up, it’s the point of life” lifestyle you celebrate around here is really a lot of the reason the negative stereotypes of weed persist.
I’m not calling you out as much as the whole “druggie” party scene isn’t doing anyone any favors when it comes to the normalization of weed.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
You do realize that pot is a lot cheaper than booze, right?[/quote]
totally depends on what quality shit you are smoking/drink volume & frequency too. (And if you’re a habitual drunk or not, where you become a two beer queer again.)
I can get wasted daily on less than even the most frugal smoker is getting high, if I wanted to. But It’s drinking dirt booze. [/quote]
to really compare you’d first have to establish a base level of intoxication (buzz if you will). Then, like you pointed out, establish comparable products (type of booze, type of bud … we’d probably have to go with the cheapest of the two as we’re comparing lowest costs so, again, like you said, cheap booze v cheap bud).
Then we’ll have to establish unit of measure … ounces would probably be easiest … so cost per ounce to achieve comparable level of intoxication. Since an ounce of shit weed costs, let’s say, 300 bucks and an ounce of shit beer would cost, say, about 5 cents.
Now we’ve established comparable costs. Now we need to figure out how how much an average man would need to consume to reach a comparable level of intoxication. Let’s say one beer vs one joint would be comparable? So, how many joints can one roll with 1 ounce of weed? So, there’s about 28 grams in an ounce and, correct me if I’m wrong, you can probably roll 5 joints from 1 gram of weed so that’s 140 joints/ounce which would be about $2.14 per joint and only about $.60 per 12 oz can of beer.
So, no, it is not cheaper to smoke weed than it is to drink. (My prices might be off as, since weed is unregulated, the price tends to fluctuate due to market conditions, availability and strains available. I estimated based on my own experiences and extrapolations, which are very limited, but I believe I’m in the ballpark. An adjust for cheaper weed still wouldn’t come close to my generous pricing of a can of shitty beer. Plus I used beer rather than wine or spirits as those products would make this argument just plain silly).
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
All that said
I might tie one on tonight… It’s been a long week. [/quote]
Off topic: Going to see these guys in concert tonight.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
society has already picked a side, and alcoholism won. It’s everywhere, and has been posted here before that alcohol has “been woven into the fabric of our society.”
I’m beating a dead horse but alcohol is far and away worse for an individual and society than thc.
but you know, being an “adult” with alcoholism is more acceptable than using thc for some reason. [/quote]
It’s more like fabric of humanity, not just society. As far back as we can trace our history, we’ve been imbibing.
Former UCLA prof, Ronald Siegel, broadens it further and argues that the drive for “intoxication” is fundamental and can be observed in other species as well, from higher primates all the way down to snails.
I saw Austin Doucher smoking weeds with his maid in a TV show, on network TV at like 8:30pm.
When they put gay guys on TV in that time slot it took like 10 Years for gay marriage to be legal everywhere.
The clock is ticking…
Remember that ice-dude from Paleo times they found frozen in the glacier? He was holding. Encino Man I think he was called.
[quote]FlatsFarmer wrote:
Remember that ice-dude from Paleo times they found frozen in the glacier? He was holding. Encino Man I think he was called. [/quote]
You know, I really think people blaming weed for life’s problems are passing the buck and a little sad. I also think that all the potheads who think it’s responsible for all the victories in their life and should be the focus of all of society are equally moronic. But referencing a Paulie Shore movie, that’s just over the line.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
Smoking pot is for high school once you are a man it’s time to drink beer and/or whiskey. Just kidding sort of. [/quote]
this type of ignorant perception is the problem.
Consuming some thc is no different than someone having a beer, or glass of wine at the end of the day. Aside from the addiction, empty calories, and possible hangover. There is a reason beer bellies are named as such. [/quote]
Yes it would be different, for example sometimes I drink ‘‘microbrew’’ beers because I like the taste of some style, not to get drunk. I like to brew them at home to have my own personalized thing.
One beer is not going to have any effect on me. The equivalent in pot would be having something that taste good with very little THC in it that has very little effect. If anything it has little effect for some people who already smoke alot, so that’s not the same thing. I have never been drunk with 1 beer.
What about mushrooms? Would any of you guys chew some coca leaves?
[quote]FlatsFarmer wrote:
Would any of you guys chew some coca leaves? [/quote]
Hell no, but I sure love the way they smell…
Take my wife, -please.