On TRT Looking for First Cycle Advice

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Hello all, I am not new to the forum, but this is my first post under the steroid section. I am 25years old, and I have trained inconsistently since the age of 15. I did a SPF meet this past july and finished with 375 raw bench press, and 500 raw deadlift. I lift with 350 for working sets on squats, I have not done a 1rep max as I am working up from an ACL reconstruction on my left knee.

I used d-bol @15mg/day for 6 weeks when I was 18. No other prohorome or aas usage until this past march I found my test was consistently around 230ng/dl. So, I have been taking testcyp 100mg/5days and .25 adex for the past 6 months under doctors care. I do not plan to come off of it, I feel much better with my test around 1000ng/dl. :slight_smile: I am 5’7" at 200lbs. I was up to 210lbs but started backing off eating to drop a little fat before my cycle.

My body fat is around 18%. I am already stronger than a lot of guys my size but like everyone else in here I want to be stronger,bigger, and look better. guess that is me answering the question why aas? this is what Ive got… A shit ton of Adex, my prescription cyp(prob could stretch the dose to 200 per week if i wanted) and exactly 31 of karachi Sustanon 250 amps or 31cc. the first two are from the pharmacy, the other is also human grade no UG lab bs.

I have read plenty of post that say that sus is no good and should use cyp/enath/prop instead… Too bad I didnt read before I got the sustanon so this is what I have and not really sure what would be the best way to go about using it. Busting into two cycles, one lower dose and another a little higher later on, or just dump it all for 15 weeks at 500mg a week.

cycle 1
weeks 1-8 250mg of sustanon every 5days
weeks 1-8 100mg of cyp every 5days
weeks 1-8 .25 mg of adex EOD, adjusting by symptoms if needed.
no pct, just resume trt dose 100mg cyp every 4or5days for 12 weeks

cycle 2
weeks 1-10 500mg of sustanon 2x a week
weeks 1-10 .50 adex EOD

or…

weeks 1-15 500mg of sustanon split into monday-thursday injections.
weeks 1-15 .50mg of adex EOD adjusting as needed.
no pct, back on trt dose 100mg cyp every 4or5days once the sustanon is finished.

or… any other combination that you guys think would be more appropriate

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Well sust should be pinned EOD because of the prop ester

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I have read alot of other post on the net reguarding this, seems like most say EOD for the prop like you mentioned, but many say that since the 30mg of prop per cc is so small in compairson to the total mgs being used that it really dosent matter to use EOD. If I did choose EOD, then I would be running 1000mg a week roughly, wouldnt that be a liitle much since my body has only seen the 100-140mg per week dose?

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I know people that do sustanon EOD but I have also heard to do a shot every 3-4 days. For some reason Sustanon makes me feel sick like I have the flu so I stay away and just go with the standard cyp or ethanate test cycle. I have never had any problems with those esters and I dont want to inject ED or EOD so I have never used prop. I just throw in dbol ed if I need to kick start the cycle on a longer ester.

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yeah I reckon you could pin sust twice a week without issue.

there’s LOADS of conflicting opinions about this but I think just trust your instincts

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EOD pinning I guess it’s up to the individual, the prop makes up a small percentage of the sust but some believe it will still have an impact on blood levels. I would probably pin EOD, but that’s me, I get some sort of satisfaction from pinning haha, but I agree you could get away with twice a week

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[quote]Casey.d. wrote:
If I did choose EOD, then I would be running 1000mg a week roughly, wouldnt that be a liitle much since my body has only seen the 100-140mg per week dose? [/quote]

LOL

Cant tell if joking or just retarded…

You do know that you can actually vary the dosages that you are taking at any given injection, right? LOL

Your weekly dosage would remain the same, just split into more shots.

Honestly though, if you weren’t joking here, you are definitely too stupid to be considering something like steroids.

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No I am not joking nor am I retarted. I am not going to get into an intellectual debate with you. I am sure you have more “useful” input reguarding my thread. The sustanon250 that I have is Karachi. These are in 1cc ampoules. My logic behind what I stated is that once I break an ampule open, I would use the whole thing 250mg. I would not leave some of it in an open ampoule or in a loaded syringe. You may correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that would be unsterile. With that in mind, taking sust(the whole ampoule) EOD would be about 1gram per week.

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Why would leaving it in a sterile syringe not be sterile?

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I assumed that leaving it in the syringe was not good since it is not sealed/open on one end. I understand just cap the needle and trash it then use a steril needle to finised the other 0.5cc . Would it be better to buy a sterile 10ml vial and just fill that up and draw what I need from the vial? Seems like leaving it the syringe isn’t a problem either though.

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to be fair to Balla, you might’ve mentioned that thing about the ampules before.

You should buy a couple of sterile vials, that’ll make your life easier

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I mentioned Karachi sustanon amps at the top, but I did not ask if it were sterile to leave some in the syringe after use. I will get a few sterile vials. Thanks

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You wouldn’t pull it all into one syringe, use some and leave the rest, you would load 2 or 3 syringes from one ampule

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It is fine to just load up one syringe and use it twice. I do that when I’m being lazy and load up my HRT ahead of time for the week.

It is definitely not accepted medical practice, but I haven’t had any issues, nor have many other people htat do this. Most diabetics are reusing their insulin syringes.