On Food Purveyors

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Lol, it must be the evil food companies. It can’t people the choices people make, can’t be. [/quote]
I can tell you didn’t even read the article.[/quote]

You would be wrong. [/quote]

I should have said comprehend.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

So what? The FDA is merely a front organization that protects markets for big corporations.

[/quote]

That’s funny because the author of the article you posted is the former head of the FDA. By the way, which “big corporations” is the FDA a front for and what evidence do you have to substantiate this claim?[/quote]

Here is a book written about an entire industry and how the FDA protects them.

[/quote]

That’s about the pharmaceutical industry. I thought we were talking about food pushers?[/quote]

You asked who the FDA is a front for? This was an example. This type of market protecting can and does extend to other industries.

Here is a study recently done by the University of Connecticut. It may not be a Snickers but hey…

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

So what? The FDA is merely a front organization that protects markets for big corporations.

[/quote]

That’s funny because the author of the article you posted is the former head of the FDA. By the way, which “big corporations” is the FDA a front for and what evidence do you have to substantiate this claim?[/quote]

Here is a book written about an entire industry and how the FDA protects them.

[/quote]

That’s about the pharmaceutical industry. I thought we were talking about food pushers?[/quote]

You asked who the FDA is a front for? This was an example. This type of market protecting can and does extend to other industries.

Here is a study recently done by the University of Connecticut. It may not be a Snickers but hey…

[/quote]

Addictive qualities of Oreos cookies? For crying out loud. Utter nonsense. There will never be enough regulations to satisfy these statists. That’s what this is about. More government, more regulations, more bureaucracy until we’re all drowning in it.

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Lol, it must be the evil food companies. It can’t people the choices people make, can’t be. [/quote]
I can tell you didn’t even read the article.[/quote]

You would be wrong. [/quote]

I should have said comprehend.
[/quote]

Lol…

Kind of like how Australia’s super economy and mega minimum wage translates to America’s right?

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I know it’s a liberal media [/quote]

This shouldn’t be a surprise to any reasonably intelligent adult. In both cases it is the responsibility of the parents to control, as much as they can, what their kids eat and see that their kids are getting time to sleep. I don’t ever remember having a problem sleeping when I was a kid.
[/quote]

Personally I don’t think you and I are so far apart . I think the only difference is I understand not every one is reasonably intelligent :slight_smile:
[/quote]

That’s true, but it is still their responsibility and not someone else’s. That is the cost of living in a free society.[/quote]

I do not think the food industry having to properly label their food or put warning labels would violate any one’s rights .

It could only have positive effects that I could see

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
. That’s what this is about. More government, more regulations, more bureaucracy until we’re all drowning in it.
[/quote]

You will have to excuse me while I say you are being disingenuous , you want to regulate marriage but not the food industry

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
. That’s what this is about. More government, more regulations, more bureaucracy until we’re all drowning in it.
[/quote]

You will have to excuse me while I say you are being disingenuous , you want to regulate marriage but not the food industry
[/quote]

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman and the state should have as little to do with it as possible. I also believe that Oreos should not be illegal. Holding these two beliefs does not make me disingenuous.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
. That’s what this is about. More government, more regulations, more bureaucracy until we’re all drowning in it.
[/quote]

You will have to excuse me while I say you are being disingenuous , you want to regulate marriage but not the food industry
[/quote]

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman and the state should have as little to do with it as possible. I also believe that Oreos should not be illegal. Holding these two beliefs does not make me disingenuous.[/quote]

I believe no cares what you believe about marriage I also agree with you oreos should be legal , but it would not hurt for them to inform their customers that there is enough sugar in 3 cookies to live for a day and that exceeding that amount will make you into a fatty , cause diabetes , elevate bloods pressure , cause liver failure , increase the bad cholesterol . Can elevate bad blood lipids . Can cut your life short . Should only be given to children under parental supervision

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I believe no cares what you believe about marriage I also agree with you oreos should be legal , but it would not hurt for them to inform their customers that there is enough sugar in 3 cookies to live for a day and that exceeding that amount will make you into a fatty , cause diabetes , elevate bloods pressure , cause liver failure , increase the bad cholesterol . Can elevate bad blood lipids . Can cut your life short . Should only be given to children under parental supervision
[/quote]

Your specific example here in reference to consuming more than a few Oreos is a staunch exaggeration, as you already know, but with that having been said, no one should require a warning label to discern that consuming excessive quantities of Oreos on a regular basis would likely be detrimental to one’s health.

It shouldn’t be assumed that I am inherently opposed to any and all sorts of food and drug regulation, carte blance, but let’s have some common sense here.

There has to be a way to educate people on diet , it is not rocket science and it has VERY SIGNIFICANT results

[quote]JR249 wrote:
…let’s have some common sense here.[/quote]

You’re talking to someone who wants to legalise narcotics and restrict access to cookies. Any attempt to search for common sense will only end in futility.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
There has to be a way to educate people on diet , it is not rocket science and it has VERY SIGNIFICANT results [/quote]

That should be fairly simple. As with many things, it should all start at home. Granted, we know that’s not always going to happen for reasons that are obvious and need not be elaborated on here. If nothing else, I fail to see the reason why any health education curriculum at the K-12 level should not or would not incorporate an adequate unit on the fundamentals of human nutrition, including macronutrients, micronutrients, and incorporating whole foods into a well-balanced diet.

I have yet to work in a school that didn’t teach a unit on nutrition as part of its health education curriculum, but there may be some that are lacking. Nevertheless, a one or two week unit still doesn’t always counteract learned, socialized behavior elsewhere, but it’s better than nothing.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
…I also agree with you oreos should be legal , but it would not hurt for them to inform their customers that there is enough sugar in 3 cookies to live for a day…
[/quote]

They do, it’s all right there smack dab on the package.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

You’re talking to someone who wants to legalise narcotics and restrict access to cookies. [/quote]

Good point.

I suppose asking people to have some god damn personal responsibility and educate themselves about anything other than the Jay-Z/Kanye West weddings is going too far. It’s 2014, the government needs to spoon feed every last detail of everything to people, god forbid they do anything for themselves.

YOLO
Selfie!

[quote]JR249 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
There has to be a way to educate people on diet , it is not rocket science and it has VERY SIGNIFICANT results [/quote]

That should be fairly simple. As with many things, it should all start at home. Granted, we know that’s not always going to happen for reasons that are obvious and need not be elaborated on here. If nothing else, I fail to see the reason why any health education curriculum at the K-12 level should not or would not incorporate an adequate unit on the fundamentals of human nutrition, including macronutrients, micronutrients, and incorporating whole foods into a well-balanced diet.

I have yet to work in a school that didn’t teach a unit on nutrition as part of its health education curriculum, but there may be some that are lacking. Nevertheless, a one or two week unit still doesn’t always counteract learned, socialized behavior elsewhere, but it’s better than nothing.
[/quote]

Correct, and if anyone wants to know more about it, we have this wonderful thing called Google. They don’t even have to go to the library more likely than not, but can use google or gasp read a book, for FREE at the library.

72% of the nation has internet in the home…

That leaves only 28% of households that have to actually get off their ass and go to a library to learn something.

Almost 3 quarters of the US could learn just about anything they wanted with no effort beyond a key stroke and reading… And yet it should be other people’s responsibility to inform them?

Yeah… Not buying that shit. Not at all.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Almost 3 quarters of the US could learn just about anything they wanted with no effort beyond a key stroke and reading… And yet it should be other people’s responsibility to inform them?

Yeah… Not buying that shit. Not at all. [/quote]

I look at it like this - we have two primary means by which people are taught the norms of society: the family and some form of education. It’s only been as of late that somehow the government is supposed to fulfill part of the role here. As a taxpaying citizen, I call balderdash, and I don’t understand the mentality of those who sit down and try to rationalize its role in this regard.

[quote]JR249 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Almost 3 quarters of the US could learn just about anything they wanted with no effort beyond a key stroke and reading… And yet it should be other people’s responsibility to inform them?

Yeah… Not buying that shit. Not at all. [/quote]

I look at it like this - we have two primary means by which people are taught the norms of society: the family and some form of education. It’s only been as of late that somehow the government is supposed to fulfill part of the role here. As a taxpaying citizen, I call balderdash, and I don’t understand the mentality of those who sit down and try to rationalize its role in this regard.
[/quote]

Yeah, we are on the same page here.

Education in this country isn’t perfect, but we also have luxury that the rest of the world envys. I’m not about to stop holding individuals responsible for picking up where the school system left off and educating themselves on matters.

It is easier than ever to educate yourself in today’s world. And my tax dollars already pay for a ton of it. Use the damn library once in awhile. Beyoncé & the new Teen Mom can wait.

[quote]JR249 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
There has to be a way to educate people on diet , it is not rocket science and it has VERY SIGNIFICANT results [/quote]

That should be fairly simple. As with many things, it should all start at home. Granted, we know that’s not always going to happen for reasons that are obvious and need not be elaborated on here. If nothing else, I fail to see the reason why any health education curriculum at the K-12 level should not or would not incorporate an adequate unit on the fundamentals of human nutrition, including macronutrients, micronutrients, and incorporating whole foods into a well-balanced diet.

I have yet to work in a school that didn’t teach a unit on nutrition as part of its health education curriculum, but there may be some that are lacking. Nevertheless, a one or two week unit still doesn’t always counteract learned, socialized behavior elsewhere, but it’s better than nothing.
[/quote]

The problem with starting at home is no one at home understands diet . I know many smart people that can not classify cards fat and protein properly .

I contend sugar is the most widely abused drug in the World . You can look at a person and tell if they abuse it .

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]JR249 wrote:
…let’s have some common sense here.[/quote]

You’re talking to someone who wants to legalise narcotics and restrict access to cookies. Any attempt to search for common sense will only end in futility.[/quote]

Again I do not want to restrict access to cookies , I did for my children but I would not care what any one thought .

I think if drugs were decriminalized and regulated we could mitigate many problems with quality (CROC ,METH AND OTHER BAD DRUGS) consistent strength would cut down on overdoses and a responsible retail out let would address kids buying drugs . Drug Dealers do not check IDs