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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Then again, for like the 5th time, tell us how you would specifically change the food label.

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That is the question , we should be discussing , not wheter or not it needs changed
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What?

Specific changes you want to see made, or stop with your nonsense please.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
So you would qualify a fat fuck as giving others advice on diet ?[/quote]

Sign…

Not only did I not give diet advice to anyone. No I’m not “a fat fuck”[/quote]

you are defending status quo
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Yes, because the last thing we need is another “government program” when we already have multiple ones doing what you want, and fatties still fat.

So explain in specifics what the hell you want the government to do. [/quote]

In my opinion , the program would have to be simple . Diet is more complicated than just all fats are bad and all proteins good and carbs are benign .

There are good carbs and bad carbs , there are good fats , bad fats and ugly fats . same for protein
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Do you know what the word specific means?
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you are out side of my field of expertise . I could teach a person on a one to one basis but I am not properly educated to design a curriculum on the subject

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
just curious would you take financial advice from some who is broke or some one that is well off .

Would you take advice from a contractor when his house is falling down or one that lives in a mansion [/quote]

Holy shit dude, YOU are the one that wants government workers outlining diets for people. WE are the ones saying people can do it on their own.

YOU are the one that thinks people need to be told what to do.

So, even if your bullshit was relevant, which it isn’t, you would be, in part, making OUR case for us.

Aside from the fact it doesn’t matter if any one of us was 2% body fat or 30% bodyfat, we haven’t been giving dietary advice in this thread, YOU have. We only said that it doesn’t matter what it listed on the food package, fatties are still going to fat, and people who want to eat healthy aren’t eating the processed bullshit that Zep is so worried about in the first place.

I’m not trying to tell anyone what to eat or not to eat. I’m making the case neither I nor the government has any place in telling people what to eat, and we already offer more than enough in the way of guidance as what people should be eating, and enough information as to what is in what they are eating.

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you kind of remind me of the fat fucks that tell me how to lift heavy shit, (OH BEND AT THE KNEES ) eye roll

What I am saying is our present way of labeling food is antiquated , USMC is just an example of why, but he knows it all
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Lol, wut? You’re off your rocker as usual.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
just curious would you take financial advice from some who is broke or some one that is well off .

Would you take advice from a contractor when his house is falling down or one that lives in a mansion [/quote]

Holy shit dude, YOU are the one that wants government workers outlining diets for people. WE are the ones saying people can do it on their own.

YOU are the one that thinks people need to be told what to do.

So, even if your bullshit was relevant, which it isn’t, you would be, in part, making OUR case for us.

Aside from the fact it doesn’t matter if any one of us was 2% body fat or 30% bodyfat, we haven’t been giving dietary advice in this thread, YOU have. We only said that it doesn’t matter what it listed on the food package, fatties are still going to fat, and people who want to eat healthy aren’t eating the processed bullshit that Zep is so worried about in the first place.

I’m not trying to tell anyone what to eat or not to eat. I’m making the case neither I nor the government has any place in telling people what to eat, and we already offer more than enough in the way of guidance as what people should be eating, and enough information as to what is in what they are eating.

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you kind of remind me of the fat fucks that tell me how to lift heavy shit, (OH BEND AT THE KNEES ) eye roll

What I am saying is our present way of labeling food is antiquated , USMC is just an example of why, but he knows it all
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Lol, wut? You’re off your rocker as usual.[/quote]

I may be but unless you are a svelte as you want to be , you are doing yourself a disservice with our breakfast choice

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Puffed rice cereal is just fucking rice… it’s FUCKING RICE.

LOL

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

you are out side of my field of expertise . I could teach a person on a one to one basis but I am not properly educated to design a curriculum on the subject
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So… In essence you have no idea what it is you want the government to do, and all you know is you want the government to do something?

Does that sum up your position?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Puffed rice cereal is just fucking rice… it’s FUCKING RICE.

LOL[/quote]

it is very simple carbohydrate

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

you are out side of my field of expertise . I could teach a person on a one to one basis but I am not properly educated to design a curriculum on the subject
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So… In essence you have no idea what it is you want the government to do, and all you know is you want the government to do something?

Does that sum up your position?[/quote]

I personally feel I have summed up my position , I will resume my discussion tomorrow :slight_smile: I ave to go do Brain Surgery in Outer Space :slight_smile:

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Puffed rice cereal is just fucking rice… it’s FUCKING RICE.

LOL[/quote]

it is very simple carbohydrate [/quote]

Ya you said that already.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
However the public has the right to know.[/quote]

What do you want, specifically, on the fucking label?[/quote]

Have already answered this. What is it specifically about your beliefs that make it okay for the public to not be informed about the food they buy?

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Do you sincerely think the public gives a rats ass how their food is made or what is in it? Newsflash, they don’t. If the public cared one iota about this subject all they would have to do is not buy processed food until the info was provided. There is simply no need to get the government involved. These sorts of problems would work themselves out if lazy people stopped relying on the government for everything and let the free market work the way it should with a non-lazy participatory populace.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
just curious would you take financial advice from some who is broke or some one that is well off .

Would you take advice from a contractor when his house is falling down or one that lives in a mansion [/quote]

Holy shit dude, YOU are the one that wants government workers outlining diets for people. WE are the ones saying people can do it on their own.

YOU are the one that thinks people need to be told what to do.

So, even if your bullshit was relevant, which it isn’t, you would be, in part, making OUR case for us.

Aside from the fact it doesn’t matter if any one of us was 2% body fat or 30% bodyfat, we haven’t been giving dietary advice in this thread, YOU have. We only said that it doesn’t matter what it listed on the food package, fatties are still going to fat, and people who want to eat healthy aren’t eating the processed bullshit that Zep is so worried about in the first place.

I’m not trying to tell anyone what to eat or not to eat. I’m making the case neither I nor the government has any place in telling people what to eat, and we already offer more than enough in the way of guidance as what people should be eating, and enough information as to what is in what they are eating.

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you kind of remind me of the fat fucks that tell me how to lift heavy shit, (OH BEND AT THE KNEES ) eye roll

What I am saying is our present way of labeling food is antiquated , USMC is just an example of why, but he knows it all
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Lol, wut? You’re off your rocker as usual.[/quote]

I may be but unless you are a svelte as you want to be , you are doing yourself a disservice with our breakfast choice
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I don’t eat cereal for breakfast.

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[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Do you sincerely think the public gives a rats ass how their food is made or what is in it? Newsflash, they don’t. If the public cared one iota about this subject all they would have to do is not buy processed food until the info was provided. There is simply no need to get the government involved. These sorts of problems would work themselves out if lazy people stopped relying on the government for everything and let the free market work the way it should with a non-lazy participatory populace.[/quote]

I personally care and I believe every one I know cares. I believe every one of them including my self have been lied to at one time or another . Especially with GMO . It became such a foot ball game and the story is quite remarkable
Some how for the food industry to properly label it would require it to lose some of it’s freedom .

Sound Familiar ?

In the industry’s defense now RE: GMO with corn especially , I doubt they could come up with any that wasn’t GMO

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Do you sincerely think the public gives a rats ass how their food is made or what is in it? Newsflash, they don’t. If the public cared one iota about this subject all they would have to do is not buy processed food until the info was provided. There is simply no need to get the government involved. These sorts of problems would work themselves out if lazy people stopped relying on the government for everything and let the free market work the way it should with a non-lazy participatory populace.[/quote]

I personally care and I believe every one I know cares. I believe every one of them including my self have been lied to at one time or another . Especially with GMO . It became such a foot ball game and the story is quite remarkable
Some how for the food industry to properly label it would require it to lose some of it’s freedom .

Sound Familiar ?

In the industry’s defense now RE: GMO with corn especially , I doubt they could come up with any that wasn’t GMO[/quote]

The general public isn’t clamoring for this information. No one has lied to the public more than the government. I’ve yet to see a study that proves unequivocally GMO products are hazardous to anyone’s health. Granted, I haven’t looked into it too much.

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[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Do you sincerely think the public gives a rats ass how their food is made or what is in it? Newsflash, they don’t. If the public cared one iota about this subject all they would have to do is not buy processed food until the info was provided. There is simply no need to get the government involved. These sorts of problems would work themselves out if lazy people stopped relying on the government for everything and let the free market work the way it should with a non-lazy participatory populace.[/quote]

I personally care and I believe every one I know cares. I believe every one of them including my self have been lied to at one time or another . Especially with GMO . It became such a foot ball game and the story is quite remarkable
Some how for the food industry to properly label it would require it to lose some of it’s freedom .

Sound Familiar ?

In the industry’s defense now RE: GMO with corn especially , I doubt they could come up with any that wasn’t GMO[/quote]

The general public isn’t clamoring for this information. No one has lied to the public more than the government. I’ve yet to see a study that proves unequivocally GMO products are hazardous to anyone’s health. Granted, I haven’t looked into it too much.
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51% to 48% I can’t understand why 51% of the people feel that the other 48% have no right to know what they are eating

http://www.wedge.coop/newsletter/february-march-2013/california-strikes-down-genetically-modified-organism-labeling-law

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I don’t see a label doing much to stop people from buying GMO food.

People know cigarettes can kill, but people still buy them. People know McDonald’s is not healthy, yet they still hit their drive-thru.

I prefer a healthier choice to my food, but that is my choice, which is being paid with my dollars. I would not impose that on other people.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
51% to 48% I can’t understand why 51% of the people feel that the other 48% have no right to know what they are eating

http://www.wedge.coop/newsletter/february-march-2013/california-strikes-down-genetically-modified-organism-labeling-law
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The right of the consumer to know what he is eating is not what is being debated. The right of the producer to sell his product is the issue. If the question was, “Should food producers be allowed to inform consumers of what is in their products?” you would have a valid point about the right of the consumer. Do you want those responsible for the food pyramid to decide for you what you can and can’t purchase to eat?

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I don’t see a label doing much to stop people from buying GMO food.

People know cigarettes can kill, but people still buy them. People know McDonald’s is not healthy, yet they still hit their drive-thru.

I prefer a healthier choice to my food, but that is my choice, which is being paid with my dollars. I would not impose that on other people.

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I don’t see’ what right you would have to interfere with my right to know ? If I knew I would vote with my dollar also

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[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
51% to 48% I can’t understand why 51% of the people feel that the other 48% have no right to know what they are eating

http://www.wedge.coop/newsletter/february-march-2013/california-strikes-down-genetically-modified-organism-labeling-law
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The right of the consumer to know what he is eating is not what is being debated. The right of the producer to sell his product is the issue. If the question was, “Should food producers be allowed to inform consumers of what is in their products?” you would have a valid point about the right of the consumer. Do you want those responsible for the food pyramid to decide for you what you can and can’t purchase to eat?[/quote]

We are debating labeling stay current

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*mistake

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
We are debating labeling stay current
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That is what I said.