On Food Purveyors

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf

132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]

you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .

Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .

You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .

Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet

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So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
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Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.[/quote]

No no, much better than that. We’ll just get rid of markets in general and hove State run food stores. You’ll hand the stockperson (who makes $15 an hour) your “APPROVED CITIZEN FOODS LIST” for the month (get’s mailed to you on the 1st of every month) and that stockperson will put your weekly rations in your basket. You then take the basket up to the front counter and the Clearperson stamps your card, no need for cash as the government can just take that out of your pay in “FOOD TAXES”.

Then you can wait in line next Sunday morning and do the same thing.

Problem solved. No more evil Oreo Corporations.
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Easier solution. Force companies to tell the truth of their food manipulation and then let the consumer decide.
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They are forced to on the food labels that are on the package. [/quote]

Please show me where on the food labels the companies show the manipulation of food ingredients.
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In the section labeled “ingredients” they list out these things that make up what’s in the food, the ingredients if you will. [/quote]

Correct these are the ingredients. But no where does it tell the consumer how these are fashioned and manipulated for a desired response.
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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
It’s odd that a bunch of people who pretend to care about freedom are against telling the public the truth behind food purveyors techniques of subterfuge in order to fatten the bottom line at the expense of the public’s health. But this calls into question economic ideology which is obviously more important to protect.
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You’re just ignoring everything people have said. I already told you that the articles you posted constitute “informing the public.” It’s the role of a free press to inform the public. It’s not the role of the government to force producers to publish the results of studies on their food packaging. This whole thread is a fascinating glimpse into the mind of a delusional statist.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Those damn capitalist forcing people to eat hyperpalatable foods at gun point. WE MUST DO SOMETHING!![/quote]
This is even more of a retarded post than Sex Machine’s.[/quote]

This whole thread is retarded so I’ll take that as a compliment.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf

132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]

you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .

Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .

You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .

Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet

[/quote]

So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[/quote]

Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.[/quote]

No no, much better than that. We’ll just get rid of markets in general and hove State run food stores. You’ll hand the stockperson (who makes $15 an hour) your “APPROVED CITIZEN FOODS LIST” for the month (get’s mailed to you on the 1st of every month) and that stockperson will put your weekly rations in your basket. You then take the basket up to the front counter and the Clearperson stamps your card, no need for cash as the government can just take that out of your pay in “FOOD TAXES”.

Then you can wait in line next Sunday morning and do the same thing.

Problem solved. No more evil Oreo Corporations.
[/quote]

Easier solution. Force companies to tell the truth of their food manipulation and then let the consumer decide.
[/quote]

They are forced to on the food labels that are on the package. [/quote]

Please show me where on the food labels the companies show the manipulation of food ingredients.
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In the section labeled “ingredients” they list out these things that make up what’s in the food, the ingredients if you will. [/quote]

No dude, they need to be forced to show how their ingredients are manipulated, in what I can only assume, is a large Hadron Collider to make the ingredients unfairly addictive.

It’s not the people’s fault. It’s big bad evil corporate greed that make a person eat 15 oreo’s and a large pizza while watching a marathon session of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. [/quote]

The studies and science is there. Resort to name calling and fun making because you have no refutation.
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As usual, lol.

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Oh snap, I just realized, what if the Legion of Doom is forcing companies to add dark matter to their products to hook fatties into eating more. It’s genius!

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

Correct these are the ingredients. But no where does it tell the consumer how these are fashioned and manipulated for a desired response.
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If I ask for a rum and coke, the bartender pours the cheap shit in with some soda. If I ask for Capitan and coke, the bartender pours Capitan in with my soda. I don’t know how much rum is in the drink until I taste it.

The desired response is to get hammered. So I want more rum, less coke. I tell the bartender that, he manipulates the drink.

Do I need a written statement from the bartender how much booze he put in my drink? And if I get so drunk I throw up later that night, who’s fault is it? Mine for drinking what I knew would make me drunk, or the bartender for serving it to me?

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What we really need are government warning labels on light bulbs exclaiming: “WARNING! Smoking meth is hazardous to your health!” My only lament is that the saddies who gorge on processed foods aren’t dying off quicker.

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[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
What we really need are government warning labels on light bulbs exclaiming: “WARNING! Smoking meth is hazardous to your health!” My only lament is that the saddies who gorge on processed foods aren’t dying off quicker.[/quote]

No, what we REALLY need is a warning label on meth that has the exact details on how said meth was combined/cooked because clearly meth labs everywhere are manipulating meth to increase the brains reward response and it is the governments responsibility to make the general public aware of said," manipulation by subterfuge."

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
What we really need are government warning labels on light bulbs exclaiming: “WARNING! Smoking meth is hazardous to your health!” My only lament is that the saddies who gorge on processed foods aren’t dying off quicker.[/quote]

No, what we REALLY need is a warning label on meth that has the exact details on how said meth was combined/cooked because clearly meth labs everywhere are manipulating meth to increase the brains reward response and it is the governments responsibility to make the general public aware of said," manipulation by subterfuge."

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But aren’t you afraid this might lead to government mandated meth standards? Standards that might force low cost manufacturers to either go out of business or raise prices. This will only hurt the poor in the long run. This seems to be a double edged sword.

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[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
What we really need are government warning labels on light bulbs exclaiming: “WARNING! Smoking meth is hazardous to your health!” My only lament is that the saddies who gorge on processed foods aren’t dying off quicker.[/quote]

No, what we REALLY need is a warning label on meth that has the exact details on how said meth was combined/cooked because clearly meth labs everywhere are manipulating meth to increase the brains reward response and it is the governments responsibility to make the general public aware of said," manipulation by subterfuge."

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But aren’t you afraid this might lead to government mandated meth standards? Standards that might force low cost manufacturers to either go out of business or raise prices. This will only hurt the poor in the long run. This seems to be a double edged sword.
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Nah, cause the gov will just update the food stamp approved use list to include meth. So the poor will be getting higher quality meth in the long run.

And of course, we can always subsidize the meth industry…

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I love the logic:

Contemporary American Liberal - Corporations are evil and buy government influence. We should regulate that.
Anyone who thinks rather than feels - Wouldn’t that just give the government more power? And therefore entice the “evil” corporations to buy even more influence?
Contemporary American Liberal - What do you watch Fox News? Bush was worse and you’re a racist.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

Correct these are the ingredients. But no where does it tell the consumer how these are fashioned and manipulated for a desired response.
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If I ask for a rum and coke, the bartender pours the cheap shit in with some soda. If I ask for Capitan and coke, the bartender pours Capitan in with my soda. I don’t know how much rum is in the drink until I taste it.

The desired response is to get hammered. So I want more rum, less coke. I tell the bartender that, he manipulates the drink.

Do I need a written statement from the bartender how much booze he put in my drink? And if I get so drunk I throw up later that night, who’s fault is it? Mine for drinking what I knew would make me drunk, or the bartender for serving it to me?

[/quote]

So it is your position that it is okay for food purveyors to manipulate food ingredients for a desired response that acts on the same receptors as drugs to encourage more of that food item. This is okay even without public knowledge?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
What we really need are government warning labels on light bulbs exclaiming: “WARNING! Smoking meth is hazardous to your health!” My only lament is that the saddies who gorge on processed foods aren’t dying off quicker.[/quote]

No, what we REALLY need is a warning label on meth that has the exact details on how said meth was combined/cooked because clearly meth labs everywhere are manipulating meth to increase the brains reward response and it is the governments responsibility to make the general public aware of said," manipulation by subterfuge."

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This is a weak comparison as you are trying to equate the illegal with the legal.

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[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
What we really need are government warning labels on light bulbs exclaiming: “WARNING! Smoking meth is hazardous to your health!” My only lament is that the saddies who gorge on processed foods aren’t dying off quicker.[/quote]

So you claim the same position as countingbeans?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf

132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]

you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .

Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .

You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .

Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet

[/quote]

So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[/quote]

Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.[/quote]

No no, much better than that. We’ll just get rid of markets in general and hove State run food stores. You’ll hand the stockperson (who makes $15 an hour) your “APPROVED CITIZEN FOODS LIST” for the month (get’s mailed to you on the 1st of every month) and that stockperson will put your weekly rations in your basket. You then take the basket up to the front counter and the Clearperson stamps your card, no need for cash as the government can just take that out of your pay in “FOOD TAXES”.

Then you can wait in line next Sunday morning and do the same thing.

Problem solved. No more evil Oreo Corporations.
[/quote]

Easier solution. Force companies to tell the truth of their food manipulation and then let the consumer decide.
[/quote]

They are forced to on the food labels that are on the package. [/quote]

Please show me where on the food labels the companies show the manipulation of food ingredients.
[/quote]

In the section labeled “ingredients” they list out these things that make up what’s in the food, the ingredients if you will. [/quote]

No dude, they need to be forced to show how their ingredients are manipulated, in what I can only assume, is a large Hadron Collider to make the ingredients unfairly addictive.

It’s not the people’s fault. It’s big bad evil corporate greed that make a person eat 15 oreo’s and a large pizza while watching a marathon session of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. [/quote]

The studies and science is there. Resort to name calling and fun making because you have no refutation.
[/quote]

As usual, lol.[/quote]
As usual you add nothing of substance.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
What we really need are government warning labels on light bulbs exclaiming: “WARNING! Smoking meth is hazardous to your health!” My only lament is that the saddies who gorge on processed foods aren’t dying off quicker.[/quote]

So you claim the same position as countingbeans?
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My position is thus: If you need a government warning label to tell you the processed food you are eating may not behave nutritionally or chemically the same way an all natural food may, the chances of such a person even understanding the ramifications of such a warning is slim to none. And slim left town. Saddies have about as much interest in the composition of the food they acquire during one of their gluttonous forays to Taco Bell as does a lion caring about the emotions of the antelope it is gorging upon.

More government intrusion and fiscal waste enforcing increasingly useless laws will not change a thing for the better. Information about nearly everything is a mere mouse click away, yet…

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf

132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]

you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .

Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .

You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .

Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet

[/quote]

So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[/quote]

Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.[/quote]

No no, much better than that. We’ll just get rid of markets in general and hove State run food stores. You’ll hand the stockperson (who makes $15 an hour) your “APPROVED CITIZEN FOODS LIST” for the month (get’s mailed to you on the 1st of every month) and that stockperson will put your weekly rations in your basket. You then take the basket up to the front counter and the Clearperson stamps your card, no need for cash as the government can just take that out of your pay in “FOOD TAXES”.

Then you can wait in line next Sunday morning and do the same thing.

Problem solved. No more evil Oreo Corporations.
[/quote]

Easier solution. Force companies to tell the truth of their food manipulation and then let the consumer decide.
[/quote]

They are forced to on the food labels that are on the package. [/quote]

Please show me where on the food labels the companies show the manipulation of food ingredients.
[/quote]

In the section labeled “ingredients” they list out these things that make up what’s in the food, the ingredients if you will. [/quote]

No dude, they need to be forced to show how their ingredients are manipulated, in what I can only assume, is a large Hadron Collider to make the ingredients unfairly addictive.

It’s not the people’s fault. It’s big bad evil corporate greed that make a person eat 15 oreo’s and a large pizza while watching a marathon session of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. [/quote]

The studies and science is there. Resort to name calling and fun making because you have no refutation.
[/quote]

As usual, lol.[/quote]
As usual you add nothing of substance.[/quote]

Did you read the 132 page pdf I posted that’s in this very quote block? Of course not, it wasn’t published by DaRealNewz or whatever…

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
What we really need are government warning labels on light bulbs exclaiming: “WARNING! Smoking meth is hazardous to your health!” My only lament is that the saddies who gorge on processed foods aren’t dying off quicker.[/quote]

No, what we REALLY need is a warning label on meth that has the exact details on how said meth was combined/cooked because clearly meth labs everywhere are manipulating meth to increase the brains reward response and it is the governments responsibility to make the general public aware of said," manipulation by subterfuge."

[/quote]
This is a weak comparison as you are trying to equate the illegal with the legal.[/quote]

Lol, whatever…

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
So it is your position that it is okay for food purveyors to manipulate food ingredients for a desired response that acts on the same receptors as drugs to encourage more of that food item. This is okay even without public knowledge?
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Is it your position that all of that is not public knowledge?

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
So it is your position that it is okay for food purveyors to manipulate food ingredients for a desired response that acts on the same receptors as drugs to encourage more of that food item. This is okay even without public knowledge?
[/quote]

I thought drugs were a poor comparison…