[quote]heavythrower wrote:
very well then, we can agree to disagree, I have front squatted 220kg in these shoes and pulled 270kg, felt no compression issues with the heel. [/quote]
To be fair would you notice a compression issue with some chucks? I’d say most people are incapable of determining whether or not they’re actually having having a compression issue while lifting…
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
I know a lot of lifters use the shoes. A lot of lifters also have horrible mobility. A quick fix for a major problem is never, ever any good for anyone. Personally, I would rather fix all of the stuff I suck at then mask my lack of mobility for a few hundred bucks and a few more inches on my squat.[/quote]
Agree with you completely on masking flexibility issues and the reality of things is I have coached HS lifters whom were very inflexible and in the short term, a raised heel helps but as you said, you have to address the main issue(s) from just a general, “keep the lifter healthy” standpoint. Even with a raised heel I have at times tweaked my calf to the point it hurt to squat for a week or two. This is a definite reminder of what you speak of.
My response was based on your assertion that they aren’t squat shoes.
BTW, your posts that I have read have made me take a closer look at flexibility and other issues I am having and instead of plowing through them, actually addressing them and it has helped.[/quote]
Yeah. Thats what I was trying to say as well. I masked my flexibility issues since it was just easier to squat in oly shoes and hit depth. In my personal opinion, it was well worth the effort to get my mobility to where I could correctly squat to depth in chucks.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
very well then, we can agree to disagree, I have front squatted 220kg in these shoes and pulled 270kg, felt no compression issues with the heel. [/quote]
To be fair would you notice a compression issue with some chucks? I’d say most people are incapable of determining whether or not they’re actually having having a compression issue while lifting…[/quote]
sure you could. try squatting with anything respectable with a pair of running shoes or basketball shoes on, I know I can feel the heels squishing and bouncing.
[quote]ajweins wrote:
Yeah. Thats what I was trying to say as well. I masked my flexibility issues since it was just easier to squat in oly shoes and hit depth. In my personal opinion, it was well worth the effort to get my mobility to where I could correctly squat to depth in chucks.
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Well, I think we’re getting a little carried away here if we are going to assert that everyone wearing Oly shoes is ‘masking’ flexibility issues.
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
[quote]ajweins wrote:
Yeah. Thats what I was trying to say as well. I masked my flexibility issues since it was just easier to squat in oly shoes and hit depth. In my personal opinion, it was well worth the effort to get my mobility to where I could correctly squat to depth in chucks.
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Well, I think we’re getting a little carried away here if we are going to assert that everyone wearing Oly shoes is ‘masking’ flexibility issues.
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I never said anything close to that. I said I was masking MY flexibility issues.
for the record-
I switched from chucks back to Olifting shoes-
used a pair of adidas stars- years ago - for years
they where great but I always felt the heel was too tall
for the olifts, squats, power cleans etc
while I have the mobility and flexibility to use chucks
I was getting some plantar irritation from chucks
ultra flat shoes are not great for my feet
everyone’s foot is different- something I think is as big a factor
as to what kind of squatting you do
get a shoe that supports your foot
for me it right now its adidas power trainer-
tried the do-wing sent them back
looked at nike romeleos- couldnt get my size the week I ordered so I went with the powertrainers
because of the lower heel
so far they are great I think I have had them since early sept