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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:

[quote]VealChop wrote:
I have black friends, Asian friends, white friends, Hispanic friends, Jewish friends, gay friends…but when I’m walking down some street at night in a rough part of town, and five black guys are walking towards me, my adrenaline kicks up a few drops, naturally. If you make those five guys Asian, probably not. If you make them Jews, probably not. If you make them Indian, probably not. If you make them Hispanic, probably yes. And if you disagree with what I just wrote, you are probably a liar.
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Thought experiment: you’re walking down a dark alley in a rough part of town, and you see four Jews and a black guy (probably the ringleader). What do you do?[/quote]

Did the ringleader look like this?
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Man, my mind totally went there too as I was reading that post… LMAO!

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[quote]VealChop wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]VealChop wrote:
Lot of people trying to figure out who “started it” in that first video, which unless they were there at the time, is futile. Here’s what I see. Two grown men were mouthing off to each other, and one of them was clearly responsible for it coming to blows, and that’s the guy that got his face rearranged for his effort.

People mouth off to each other every day in every part of the world for all kinds of reasons, usually over the most inane shit. 99 percent of the time both parties walk away with a fuck you and a kiss my ass. In this video, the black guy chose to escalate matters to a physical altercation, and that’s unarguable.

Not too long ago two guys got stabbed in the chest and killed by ONE guy, after what seemed like a fairly trite verbal altercation at a bar I frequent. They never saw it coming. Point is, saying fuck you and kiss my ass from a distance is a common breach of social harmony, but if you show another person that they are now physically in danger, be it a punch to the chest, a slap, a push, whatever…and you must defend yourself to the best of your ability. The old man did no more, and no less than that.

Some random thoughts:

Anybody that would try to physically bully a senior citizen, unless he himself was also a senior citizen deserves the beating this guy got.

Fat black women may be directly and indirectly responsible for more violent bloodshed than any other group of people on Earth.

Saying leave race out of it is completely unrealistic. Racism is a fact of life, and probably always will be. In fact, I think it’s slowly getting worse, bubbling below the surface, and going to erupt at some point.

I also think that doing the math, going on facts, and playing the odds, as it pertains to business is considered genius, but doing so in social situations, is called racism.

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Racism is a fact of “YOUR” life ONLY if you make it so.

NOT talking about violence, because it does not matter if one person is white and the other Asian if they come to blows or gun shots it’s still VIOLENCE.

NOT talking about refusing someone a Job or a house or treating them at a hospital because of there race because that is AGAINST THE LAW OF THE USA.

RACISM is what I’m talking about just plain ol I don’t like you or I know all about you and everyone that looks like you because:

Me and all my friends were picked on by 10 guys like you in school
Me and all my friends have 10 guys like you at our job that act like fools.
Me and all my friends have seen guys like you while driving thru town.

You feel you know an entire group based on the 10-20 people you’ve met in the small part of the world we all live in is insane.

If your going to hate or judge a group don’t go on race go on the state they come from you have a better shot at being right.

Ask any 10 guys from Boston how they feel about the Red Sox or the Yankees.

Racism is a fact of life if you choose to make it so. Not talking v[/quote]

Racism is a fact of everybody’s life whether they consider themselves racist or not. That’s like saying car accidents are not a fact of my life because I don’t intend on having any.

I believe that each person should be judged individually, after having gotten to know them and maybe even had two or three business transactions with them. But since I don’t have the time to do that 7 billion times, I’ll just generalize, thanks.

Judging people by the state they live in has SOME merit as it pertains to sports, and that’s about it. That’s just stupid. I’d rather be racist, that has always proven to be non-state specific.

It’s the year 2010, and nobody is making decisions based on the 10 people they know personally. People make decisions based on hundreds or thousands of people they’ve gone to school with, work with, shop with, drive past, do business with, every story they’ve ever heard, every article they’ve ever read, every news report they’ve ever watched, everything they’ve learned from the Internet, and every thing they have ever seen, whether they have been personally involved or not. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Making decisions based on all experience is what makes us human. Allowing the media to tell you that is not a nice thing to do when it comes to people is being a lamb.

I have black friends, Asian friends, white friends, Hispanic friends, Jewish friends, gay friends…but when I’m walking down some street at night in a rough part of town, and five black guys are walking towards me, my adrenaline kicks up a few drops, naturally. If you make those five guys Asian, probably not. If you make them Jews, probably not. If you make them Indian, probably not. If you make them Hispanic, probably yes. And if you disagree with what I just wrote, you are probably a liar.

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AND you live in Jersey. hahahahahahahaha sorry could not resist that.

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[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:

[quote]VealChop wrote:
I have black friends, Asian friends, white friends, Hispanic friends, Jewish friends, gay friends…but when I’m walking down some street at night in a rough part of town, and five black guys are walking towards me, my adrenaline kicks up a few drops, naturally. If you make those five guys Asian, probably not. If you make them Jews, probably not. If you make them Indian, probably not. If you make them Hispanic, probably yes. And if you disagree with what I just wrote, you are probably a liar.
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Thought experiment: you’re walking down a dark alley in a rough part of town, and you see four Jews and a black guy (probably the ringleader). What do you do?[/quote]

hahahahah I would wonder why I was in Detroit in the 60’s and why are the FOUR TOPS and there manager behind me.

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
And on the medical matter: I’ve since learned that whether or not he ever obtained an ambulance, he did in fact get paramedics.

I’m sorry, but I’m not going to have paramedics called for me for a bloody nose and busted lip. And I don’t think anyone paying his own way is going to do that.

An example of considerably money being completely wasted, driving up total health care expenses. This is inevitable when services are provided without the recipient being made to pay anything for them.[/quote]

Bill, how do you know that he didn’t pay cash for the service? For instance, he may be a high paying job as a mechanical engineer that designs ambalampses.

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[quote]four60 wrote:
AND you live in Jersey. hahahahahahahaha sorry could not resist that.
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And you live in Mary Land.

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[quote]VealChop wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
AND you live in Jersey. hahahahahahahaha sorry could not resist that.
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And you live in Mary Land. [/quote]

Yeah but the Military put me here. But trust me when I say. Its no Merry Land.
Born and raised in NYC (just can’t afford to live in the city these days)

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http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/8/Star-Wars-Fan-Fights-Punkers-347435.html

Semi Related, Couldn’t find a youtube clip so this break.com probably won’t embed.

Star wars fan waiting in line to see a movie, some punks are shouting shit from across the street, couple guys go over to tell them to shut up there are women and children in line, punk kid pushes star wars fan and the dude lays the punk out. LOL

V

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
The absolute best part is when that old man started lunch boxing him the black chick manning the camera goes “WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!” like it was the last thing she expected, and at the exact same time the older black woman who was trying to play peace keeper earlier hollered “NOOOOOOO” like her favorite character died on ‘Days of our lives’. That was so great.[/quote]

It was the last thing I expected!!! When I saw the title of the video I thought the old guy maybe pushed him down or something…and then I watched it! I was embarrased for the man who got beat up.

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[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
The absolute best part is when that old man started lunch boxing him the black chick manning the camera goes “WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!” like it was the last thing she expected, and at the exact same time the older black woman who was trying to play peace keeper earlier hollered “NOOOOOOO” like her favorite character died on ‘Days of our lives’. That was so great.[/quote]

It was the last thing I expected!!! When I saw the title of the video I thought the old guy maybe pushed him down or something…and then I watched it! I was embarrased for the man who got beat up.[/quote]

Why?

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[quote]CBear84 wrote:

[quote]RBlue wrote:
We can’t really make any further character determination from that one clip.[/quote]

really? you’re gonna try to pull something like that? we make character determinations from shorter interactions from this on a DAILY basis.

How many times did the punk walk up to the front of the bus to the old guy?

Who struck who first?

Who got his ass handed to him and his face spread out on a bus seat, AND THEN muttered to the PERSON WHO WASNT THERE that hes gonna kill that nigger?

REALLY!?

you don’t want to make a character determination?

what kind of process would you want to go through, to make a character determination? sit down interview, hidden camera, buddy-for-a-day?[/quote]

I personally prefer not to make character determinations based on isolated incidents such as this, when both parties are acting like children, because everyone (including myself) has moments when they have been big jackasses. If, however, I happen to interact with someone on a number of occasions, and the jackass behaviour seems to be par for the course, then that’s a different story.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
And on the medical matter: I’ve since learned that whether or not he ever obtained an ambulance, he did in fact get paramedics.

I’m sorry, but I’m not going to have paramedics called for me for a bloody nose and busted lip. And I don’t think anyone paying his own way is going to do that.

An example of considerably money being completely wasted, driving up total health care expenses. This is inevitable when services are provided without the recipient being made to pay anything for them.[/quote]

Bill, how do you know that he didn’t pay cash for the service? For instance, he may be a high paying job as a mechanical engineer that designs ambalampses.[/quote]

Because people that earn their living generally don’t capriciously incur unecessarly services/expense like calling for the ambo lance when an icepack and rag will do the job just fine. I have great coverage. The second thought after getting my nose busted wouldn’t be “call the amba lance” and it likely wouldn’t be yours either. Calling the “ambo lance” is code for “I’m trying to get paid”. I don’t care to be drawn into the race discussion, but really, it’s pretty clear to me an HMO card is not in his back pocket and it has nothing to do with the fact that he’s black. Show me another clip of any race man wearing a suit, tie and carrying a briefcase during commuting hours who suffers a minor injury and the third thing out of his mouth is “call the ambo lance” and I’ll STFU :slight_smile:

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
The absolute best part is when that old man started lunch boxing him the black chick manning the camera goes “WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!” like it was the last thing she expected, and at the exact same time the older black woman who was trying to play peace keeper earlier hollered “NOOOOOOO” like her favorite character died on ‘Days of our lives’. That was so great.[/quote]

It was the last thing I expected!!! When I saw the title of the video I thought the old guy maybe pushed him down or something…and then I watched it! I was embarrased for the man who got beat up.[/quote]

Why?[/quote]

I kind of understand why… Not at all that the guy didn’t deserve it, but man, he did get manhandled by a 67 year old, and it’s on the internet!!

I’m no tough guy, but I have been in a few physical altercations in my life, and being fairly big and strong in my teens and twenties, there were a few times I felt really bad, almost embarrassed for the other guy after. And I never start trouble, they always deserved it.

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
This is great.[/quote]

I LMAO once I saw this.

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[quote]VealChop wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]VealChop wrote:
Lot of people trying to figure out who “started it” in that first video, which unless they were there at the time, is futile. Here’s what I see. Two grown men were mouthing off to each other, and one of them was clearly responsible for it coming to blows, and that’s the guy that got his face rearranged for his effort.

People mouth off to each other every day in every part of the world for all kinds of reasons, usually over the most inane shit. 99 percent of the time both parties walk away with a fuck you and a kiss my ass. In this video, the black guy chose to escalate matters to a physical altercation, and that’s unarguable.

Not too long ago two guys got stabbed in the chest and killed by ONE guy, after what seemed like a fairly trite verbal altercation at a bar I frequent. They never saw it coming. Point is, saying fuck you and kiss my ass from a distance is a common breach of social harmony, but if you show another person that they are now physically in danger, be it a punch to the chest, a slap, a push, whatever…and you must defend yourself to the best of your ability. The old man did no more, and no less than that.

Some random thoughts:

Anybody that would try to physically bully a senior citizen, unless he himself was also a senior citizen deserves the beating this guy got.

Fat black women may be directly and indirectly responsible for more violent bloodshed than any other group of people on Earth.

Saying leave race out of it is completely unrealistic. Racism is a fact of life, and probably always will be. In fact, I think it’s slowly getting worse, bubbling below the surface, and going to erupt at some point.

I also think that doing the math, going on facts, and playing the odds, as it pertains to business is considered genius, but doing so in social situations, is called racism.

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Racism is a fact of “YOUR” life ONLY if you make it so.

NOT talking about violence, because it does not matter if one person is white and the other Asian if they come to blows or gun shots it’s still VIOLENCE.

NOT talking about refusing someone a Job or a house or treating them at a hospital because of there race because that is AGAINST THE LAW OF THE USA.

RACISM is what I’m talking about just plain ol I don’t like you or I know all about you and everyone that looks like you because:

Me and all my friends were picked on by 10 guys like you in school
Me and all my friends have 10 guys like you at our job that act like fools.
Me and all my friends have seen guys like you while driving thru town.

You feel you know an entire group based on the 10-20 people you’ve met in the small part of the world we all live in is insane.

If your going to hate or judge a group don’t go on race go on the state they come from you have a better shot at being right.

Ask any 10 guys from Boston how they feel about the Red Sox or the Yankees.

Racism is a fact of life if you choose to make it so. Not talking v[/quote]

Racism is a fact of everybody’s life whether they consider themselves racist or not. That’s like saying car accidents are not a fact of my life because I don’t intend on having any.

I believe that each person should be judged individually, after having gotten to know them and maybe even had two or three business transactions with them. But since I don’t have the time to do that 7 billion times, I’ll just generalize, thanks.

Judging people by the state they live in has SOME merit as it pertains to sports, and that’s about it. That’s just stupid. I’d rather be racist, that has always proven to be non-state specific.

It’s the year 2010, and nobody is making decisions based on the 10 people they know personally. People make decisions based on hundreds or thousands of people they’ve gone to school with, work with, shop with, drive past, do business with, every story they’ve ever heard, every article they’ve ever read, every news report they’ve ever watched, everything they’ve learned from the Internet, and every thing they have ever seen, whether they have been personally involved or not. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Making decisions based on all experience is what makes us human. Allowing the media to tell you that is not a nice thing to do when it comes to people is being a lamb.

I have black friends, Asian friends, white friends, Hispanic friends, Jewish friends, gay friends…but when I’m walking down some street at night in a rough part of town, and five black guys are walking towards me, my adrenaline kicks up a few drops, naturally. If you make those five guys Asian, probably not. If you make them Jews, probably not. If you make them Indian, probably not. If you make them Hispanic, probably yes. And if you disagree with what I just wrote, you are probably a liar.

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You lost all talking points as soon as you said you have gay friends.

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[quote]RBlue wrote:

[quote]CBear84 wrote:

[quote]RBlue wrote:
We can’t really make any further character determination from that one clip.[/quote]

really? you’re gonna try to pull something like that? we make character determinations from shorter interactions from this on a DAILY basis.

How many times did the punk walk up to the front of the bus to the old guy?

Who struck who first?

Who got his ass handed to him and his face spread out on a bus seat, AND THEN muttered to the PERSON WHO WASNT THERE that hes gonna kill that nigger?

REALLY!?

you don’t want to make a character determination?

what kind of process would you want to go through, to make a character determination? sit down interview, hidden camera, buddy-for-a-day?[/quote]

I personally prefer not to make character determinations based on isolated incidents such as this, when both parties are acting like children, because everyone (including myself) has moments when they have been big jackasses. If, however, I happen to interact with someone on a number of occasions, and the jackass behaviour seems to be par for the course, then that’s a different story.[/quote]

It’s perfectly fine to make character determinations based on isolated incidents. Many times that’s all we get, and we have to act on it. As far as I’m concerned, everyone on Earth is a douche bag until they prove to me that they are NOT.

Do you date everybody you meet a number of times before deciding if you like them?

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[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
You lost all talking points as soon as you said you have gay friends.
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Hahaha…relax man, being homophobic is almost as gay as being gay.

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[quote]VealChop wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
The absolute best part is when that old man started lunch boxing him the black chick manning the camera goes “WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!” like it was the last thing she expected, and at the exact same time the older black woman who was trying to play peace keeper earlier hollered “NOOOOOOO” like her favorite character died on ‘Days of our lives’. That was so great.[/quote]

It was the last thing I expected!!! When I saw the title of the video I thought the old guy maybe pushed him down or something…and then I watched it! I was embarrased for the man who got beat up.[/quote]

Why?[/quote]

I kind of understand why… Not at all that the guy didn’t deserve it, but man, he did get manhandled by a 67 year old, and it’s on the internet!!

I’m no tough guy, but I have been in a few physical altercations in my life, and being fairly big and strong in my teens and twenties, there were a few times I felt really bad, almost embarrassed for the other guy after. And I never start trouble, they always deserved it. [/quote]

Yeah but beyond it all you have to look at the other side of this. 67 or not he was bigger than the guy and there is no doudt he was a better fighter than the other guy. So he should not be to ashamed.
HE only had his azz handed to him. He didn’t die from his injuries.
And this may save his azz in the future.

You must be a fool to just assume you can punk anyone down, yes people can be punked but don’t assume it will happen. And this is a lesson he had that day I won’t say lesson learned because I’m not sure it stuck I just hope it did.

I remember as a kid being chased out of Howard Beach in Queens NY when some guys thought me and my cousin skin was to tanned to be riding our bike thru there block. I took it for the lesson it was.
Unless I’m ready to fight 5 guys, don’t ride your bike thru there.

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[quote]decimation wrote:
I’m little surprised at some of the comments. The white guy is the one
that precipated the situation. I know he is very old and the young guy should
have probably ignored him.

But why should he have to put up with the spit shine the shoes comment. It was
clearly racially motivated. Could he say get me a sandwich boy or whatever crap.
Plus the young didn’t hit him either.

The black dude couldn’t win no matter what he did. If he was capable of beating the shit of him,
he would be villified or if he shut up you would call him lily livered.

The white guy was an ignorant fuck that just happens to be able to handle himself quite well at an advanced age.[/quote]

If you listen to the old man he mentions that the black dude said something to him about a spit shine. We do not get to hear this part, because it is said before the video starts. So maybe you should not be so quick to judge?

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[quote]VealChop wrote:

[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
You lost all talking points as soon as you said you have gay friends.
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Hahaha…relax man, being homophobic is worse than being gay. [/quote]

Fixed.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]VealChop wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
The absolute best part is when that old man started lunch boxing him the black chick manning the camera goes “WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!” like it was the last thing she expected, and at the exact same time the older black woman who was trying to play peace keeper earlier hollered “NOOOOOOO” like her favorite character died on ‘Days of our lives’. That was so great.[/quote]

It was the last thing I expected!!! When I saw the title of the video I thought the old guy maybe pushed him down or something…and then I watched it! I was embarrased for the man who got beat up.[/quote]

Why?[/quote]

I kind of understand why… Not at all that the guy didn’t deserve it, but man, he did get manhandled by a 67 year old, and it’s on the internet!!

I’m no tough guy, but I have been in a few physical altercations in my life, and being fairly big and strong in my teens and twenties, there were a few times I felt really bad, almost embarrassed for the other guy after. And I never start trouble, they always deserved it. [/quote]

Yeah but beyond it all you have to look at the other side of this. 67 or not he was bigger than the guy and there is no doudt he was a better fighter than the other guy. So he should not be to ashamed.
HE only had his azz handed to him. He didn’t die from his injuries.
And this may save his azz in the future.

You must be a fool to just assume you can punk anyone down, yes people can be punked but don’t assume it will happen. And this is a lesson he had that day I won’t say lesson learned because I’m not sure it stuck I just hope it did.

I remember as a kid being chased out of Howard Beach in Queens NY when some guys thought me and my cousin skin was to tanned to be riding our bike thru there block. I took it for the lesson it was.
Unless I’m ready to fight 5 guys, don’t ride your bike thru there. [/quote]

Yeah that’s all true, but still! Hahaha…when his homies get a hold of this video, he will never live it down.

As far as trying to punk everyone you cross paths with, there are MANY people out there who LIVE by that hope. And 99 percent of the time it works, that’s why they keep doing it, and have learned to employ that tactic in EVERY confrontation. Even though I personally haven’t interacted with EVERY black person on Earth, I will say, that in my experience, this tactic is very often employed by blacks, particularly when the other party is white. Someone may lable that a “racist” remark too, but it won’t make it any less true.

Anyway, every once in a while it backfires, and watching it is a beautiful thing.