Officer Charged with Off Duty Shooting

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[quote]Slay the Dragon wrote:
Christine wrote:
Honestly, if the woman was so out of control, why didn’t the officer call for some sort of backup before it escalated so far.

There are always two perceptions, but he should have contacted an on duty, uniformed officer at the onset of the incident.

Good idea, his backup could show up in time to scrape his body parts off the pavement.

tom63 wrote:
Cars hit a lot harder than 9mms, 45 acps, and 357 magnums. Depending on what happened, deadly force might be warranted.

I beleive it was warranted. here you have some drunk chick trying to ram you with her car. She has kid in the car, so right now not only are you in danger but so is her kid (which is COMPLETLEY irresponsible, hopefully she looses custody for that) also, the cop’s wife was in the car.

In that situation I could care less what happens to me, if someone puts my wife’s life in danger, they better believe that I’m going to do EVERYTHING in my power to end the threat.[/quote]

Death or serious injury happens in a split second, backup takes minutes.

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SO…

Woman: Drunk, driving, with a young child in car, rams his car.

Man/Cop: Driving, avoids being hit by her car, tells wife to call 911, gets stopped in carpark, pulls out gun and says “Police! You need to stop”, gets rammed, fires shots.

I say the woman deserves jail time for endangering her child.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
SO…

Woman: Drunk, driving, with a young child in car, rams his car.

Man/Cop: Driving, avoids being hit by her car, tells wife to call 911, gets stopped in carpark, pulls out gun and says “Police! You need to stop”, gets rammed, fires shots.

I say the woman deserves jail time for endangering her child.[/quote]

Based on what I’ve read so far, I agree 100%. The woman is the one that needs to be on trial.

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She will do some time in the joint, assault with a deadly weapon on a peace officer will hold some good time for her. She will get paroled within a few years I am sure. Once all the evidence is presented, the prosecutor will offer a deal for a lesser charge, and she will get what will be a slap on the hand.

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In Wisconsin, off duty cops kill everyone in sight.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
SO…

Woman: Drunk, driving, with a young child in car, rams his car.

Man/Cop: Driving, avoids being hit by her car, tells wife to call 911, gets stopped in carpark, pulls out gun and says “Police! You need to stop”, gets rammed, fires shots.

I say the woman deserves jail time for endangering her child.[/quote]

If that is a correct sequence of events, I would also agree.

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[quote]Christine wrote:
Makavali wrote:
SO…

Woman: Drunk, driving, with a young child in car, rams his car.

Man/Cop: Driving, avoids being hit by her car, tells wife to call 911, gets stopped in carpark, pulls out gun and says “Police! You need to stop”, gets rammed, fires shots.

I say the woman deserves jail time for endangering her child.

If that is a correct sequence of events, I would also agree.

[/quote]

I agree! she was a total menace I am glad she was arrested.

She is being charged with child endangerment.

I just have issues with the gun. And I wonder how this would have been handled if he had been a private citizen and not a cop.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Christine wrote:
Makavali wrote:
SO…

Woman: Drunk, driving, with a young child in car, rams his car.

Man/Cop: Driving, avoids being hit by her car, tells wife to call 911, gets stopped in carpark, pulls out gun and says “Police! You need to stop”, gets rammed, fires shots.

I say the woman deserves jail time for endangering her child.

If that is a correct sequence of events, I would also agree.

I agree! she was a total menace I am glad she was arrested.

She is being charged with child endangerment.

I just have issues with the gun. And I wonder how this would have been handled if he had been a private citizen and not a cop.

[/quote]

At least two more people would have been injured maybe even killed.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Christine wrote:
Makavali wrote:
SO…

Woman: Drunk, driving, with a young child in car, rams his car.

Man/Cop: Driving, avoids being hit by her car, tells wife to call 911, gets stopped in carpark, pulls out gun and says “Police! You need to stop”, gets rammed, fires shots.

I say the woman deserves jail time for endangering her child.

If that is a correct sequence of events, I would also agree.

I agree! she was a total menace I am glad she was arrested.

She is being charged with child endangerment.

I just have issues with the gun. And I wonder how this would have been handled if he had been a private citizen and not a cop.

[/quote]

The gun is extreme… not sure what else could be done. Maybe shoot the tires? Wouldn’t completlely stop the car though.

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[quote]Christine wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Christine wrote:
Makavali wrote:
SO…

Woman: Drunk, driving, with a young child in car, rams his car.

Man/Cop: Driving, avoids being hit by her car, tells wife to call 911, gets stopped in carpark, pulls out gun and says “Police! You need to stop”, gets rammed, fires shots.

I say the woman deserves jail time for endangering her child.

If that is a correct sequence of events, I would also agree.

I agree! she was a total menace I am glad she was arrested.

She is being charged with child endangerment.

I just have issues with the gun. And I wonder how this would have been handled if he had been a private citizen and not a cop.

The gun is extreme… not sure what else could be done. Maybe shoot the tires? Wouldn’t completlely stop the car though.

[/quote]

I don’t know why he got out of the car.
And the placement of the cars doesn’t coincide with how the officer described the chain of event.
And the police won’t release the 911 calls.

This is the reason I was hoping for a trial because as anonym said, the statements are both biased.

seems to be the only way to figure out what happened and if he overstepped what he should have done. If he had been a private citizen who used a gun in a road rage incident this wouldn’t even be an issue.

The woman is a slam dunk for jail time, no question.

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[quote]Christine wrote:
The gun is extreme… not sure what else could be done. Maybe shoot the tires? Wouldn’t completlely stop the car though.[/quote]

9:15 at night with a speeding car heading towards you…attempting to shoot out the tires is something I would leave for the 007 franchise.

And he didn’t get out of his car - he started to (in order to obtain a plate number). He didn’t do anything more than open his door.

As for the child - let’s not forget Silva’s car had tinted windows. At night, with the headlights on, in the heat of the moment…he most likely had no fuckin’ idea what she was going to do (or if she was armed) - he can very reasonably claim he didn’t see the kid.

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[quote]Christine wrote:
If that is a correct sequence of events, I would also agree.
[/quote]

Even if the sequence is off, I find the fact that she was driving drunk WITH a child in the car to be utterly reprehensible.

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If she is only being charged with child endangerment, she wont serve much time at all. I am shocked they wouldnt keep the assault charge.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Cars hit a lot harder than 9mms, 45 acps, and 357 magnums. Depending on what happened, deadly force might be warranted.[/quote]

Uh im pretty sure if you got shot with a 357 it would feel like a car hit you… those have some pop.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Christine wrote:
Makavali wrote:
SO…

Woman: Drunk, driving, with a young child in car, rams his car.

Man/Cop: Driving, avoids being hit by her car, tells wife to call 911, gets stopped in carpark, pulls out gun and says “Police! You need to stop”, gets rammed, fires shots.

I say the woman deserves jail time for endangering her child.

If that is a correct sequence of events, I would also agree.

I agree! she was a total menace I am glad she was arrested.

She is being charged with child endangerment.

I just have issues with the gun. And I wonder how this would have been handled if he had been a private citizen and not a cop.

[/quote]

If he had a concealed carry permit, the rules would work the same. she was acting in manner where a reasonable person would fear for their life, allowing the use oh lethal force.

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[quote]T3 wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Cars hit a lot harder than 9mms, 45 acps, and 357 magnums. Depending on what happened, deadly force might be warranted.

Uh im pretty sure if you got shot with a 357 it would feel like a car hit you… those have some pop.[/quote]

Not even close, a 357 has app. 500+ foot pounds of energy, a car is a fuckton+ heavier.

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[quote]Christine wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Christine wrote:
Makavali wrote:
SO…

Woman: Drunk, driving, with a young child in car, rams his car.

Man/Cop: Driving, avoids being hit by her car, tells wife to call 911, gets stopped in carpark, pulls out gun and says “Police! You need to stop”, gets rammed, fires shots.

I say the woman deserves jail time for endangering her child.

If that is a correct sequence of events, I would also agree.

I agree! she was a total menace I am glad she was arrested.

She is being charged with child endangerment.

I just have issues with the gun. And I wonder how this would have been handled if he had been a private citizen and not a cop.

The gun is extreme… not sure what else could be done. Maybe shoot the tires? Wouldn’t completlely stop the car though.

[/quote]

If you are good enough to shoot out the tires, you still have a car careening out of control. You shoot at the person.

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three pages on this and I still don’t care either way.

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tom63…have you ever been shot?

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I am telling you not much of anything will happen to this guy.