Hello guys new here and have a few questions hope I can figure out my lifelong problem
Well here we go!
Im only 23 and I have had low t for many years and the dr said my t levels were fine
My t levels were at 260 and had many issues as I couldn’t get it up, fat all around my belly, tired all the time, depressed, super anxious 24/7, social anxiety as well.
Anyways Dr said I was fine at 260 but I wanted to try TRT even though she wouldnt prescribe it to me. Fast forward I tried it injected 250mg for 12 weeks and felt AMAZING. Didnt come instantly but within 4 weeks I felt like superman. ALL of my problems disappeared. I had no depression, anxiety or anything anymore I truly stopped caring about things as much and felt an intense confidence boost. I COULD FINALLY GET IT UP! Not once a day but more like 3x a day lol it made me feel so good about myself. Got my levels checked and had around 1200ng dl and estrogen at e2 at 52. Fast forward my 12 weeks were done and I got off… 2 weeks later started clomid and nolvadex 50mg and 20mg a day and felt fine… three more weeks go on at 50mg and 20mg every other day and I get my test levels checked and I am at 440.
I dont feel as amazing as I did at 1200 obviously but it is a huge increase from 260 and feel a lot better. My question is now do I take clomid and nolvadex for life? Im worried about the negative side effects of clomid and nolvadex… Or do I start trt? I dont want to go back to my pre levels of 260 and I do not know where to go with this as the dr keeps telling me I was fine at 260 and its all mental. Only thing im worried about trt is having kids in the future and hated injecting my arm once a week.
Hope you guys can help guide me to the right direction
Thank you
I can’t tell you what to do, but if you would share your pre-TRT labs including range and share your protocol I’m certain I can find something wrong with it for the fact E2 was 52. I don’t know about you but I’d rather have a natural hormones in my body over some drug, chemicals are bad for the body.
Your SHBG levels will basically dictate how much and how often you should be injecting, only very high SHBG men should be injecting once weekly. HCG is used to keep the testicles alive and producing sperm, however you must know insurance is basically useless for TRT.
Insurance doctors refuse HCG and aromatase inhibitors because it’s not part of “standard of care” model for TRT, which is basically lagging behind in getting doctors updated. It is this reason why most of us pay out of pocket for TRT and 9 times out of 10 insurance doctors get TRT wrong.
Doctors receive no training in medical school for male hormones unless they chose to pay for training, these go-getters chose to not be sheep and define they own path in life. These are the doctors that start their own practice and do TRT the right way and typically don’t take insurance.
They wouldn’t be able to do their job if they did, insurance don’t like to put out money for anything as they put roadblocks in front of doctors to where they can’t do their job properly.
Pre trt range was 250-850 I was right at 260
e2 at 52 wasnt bad at all I can lower the dose as well to 200mg a week to lower my e2
I am not sensitive to estrogen.
Not sure which path to choose now
Continue taking nolva and clomid or synthetic testosterone
Pre-TRT labs looks something like this,
Total T
Free T
SHBG
FSH
LH
Prolactin
Estradiol Sensitive (E2)
Cortisol
Thyroid Panel
CBC-complete blood count
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Lipid profile/panel
Havent gotten labs like that done
It’s too late as I haven’t gotten labs pre trt. But it doesn’t answer my questions. Need to know what I will continue to have to do and why
Thanks
I can’t chose for you, but I would just use non-synthetic testosterone if it’s an option. I strongly dislike anything not natural to the body, we are living with too many chemicals in our lives.
So the clomid would be a better option as it promotes testosterone production
It just doesn’t make me feel as good as I did on the synthetic testosterone