Occupy Wall Street

Later in the video, he then goes on to say ?No more talking. They?ve got guns, we?ve got bottles. They?ve got bricks, we?ve got rocks?in a few days you?re going to see what a Molotov cocktail can do to Macy?s.?

OWS Protesters Calling For ‘Day Of Action’ Following Loss Of Camp In Zuccotti Park « CBS New York
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God, I hope our police have the balls to do what London police should have done…

[quote]benos4752 wrote:
Later in the video, he then goes on to say ?No more talking. They?ve got guns, we?ve got bottles. They?ve got bricks, we?ve got rocks?in a few days you?re going to see what a Molotov cocktail can do to Macy?s.?

OWS Protesters Calling For ‘Day Of Action’ Following Loss Of Camp In Zuccotti Park « CBS New York
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God, I hope our police have the balls to do what London police should have done…[/quote]
I’m going to be in NYC tomorrow to Sunday I don’t look forward to this

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:
The #Occupy protests are a result of endemic and systemic problems that exist in the USA and for some reason many posters in this thread are unwilling to acknowledge those problems exist.

Why?[/quote]

Because they are protesting in the wrong place…they need to occupy Washington D.C.

Do you really think that any change will occur without laws mandating it?

Obama’s biggest donors were large corporations…maybe they should occupy Obama.

See the difference?[/quote]

Every senator is a millionaire, and no one is able to run for president, or even try to become a presidential candidate, without corporate backing.

This isn’t limited to Obama. Every politician is paid and bought for by corporate america.

There is no difference between Washington D.C. and Wall Street anymore.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:
You don’t think the US needs a system overhaul?
[/quote]

Over haul to what? You need an end to have a mean? There is something wrong with everything. There are always tweaks and adjustments needed, but a complete overhaul is not. The people screaming for fairness are really wanting fairness, they want something for nothing. They want free money. They is an inequality to those of us who have to work for it. Education, working hard, doing the right things, are not new concepts. Do I think corporations are greedy sure, not all but some certainly are. You aren’t going to fix greed by taking their shit…You do that they either quit or leave and hence a lot more people then get screwed.
I myself can be waaay richer. I can do it in short order. But do that I have to travel much more. And that takes me away from my family and to me that’s not worth it. See, that’s my choice. I am not owed more money because I feel an obligation to my family.
As long as companies pay competitive wages and treat employee fairly I have no issue.
I do have issues with coperate mucks getting big pay outs even in the face of losses or lay-offs. But an over haul is not necessary to fix that. [/quote]

The system is rigged in favor of those in charge. Those in charge are above the law and they are robbing you blind.

All right, a few observations (and, of course, my opinion):

First of all, the “99%” are most certainly not the 99%. They are not representative of it, they don’t look like it, they don’t sound like it, they don’t share its politics.

The reality is that the OWS “99%” wishes it was the voice of the 99%, and its movement has a distinct mission to “wake up” the apparently slumbering 99% and move those folks into their column (yes, it sounds exactly like Marx and the “fale consciousness” schtick. Calling itself the “99%” is really just a snappy marketing move - if you had to crystallize it, I think a better label would be “We are the 99% - the 99% just doesn’t know it yet”.

In truth, the protesters I met were garden variety left-wing oriented malcontents with, frankly, pretty radical politics. They did not hail from “flyover” country, they weren’t simply unemployed middle-class types who finally decided that they’d had enough.

The idea that somehow this OWS crowd has been some middle class crowd of disgruntled “regular guys” has been nothing but a projection by a number of people sympathetic to the movement who didn’t/don’t want it discredited because of its extremism.

Now, I found the people nice. They were passionate and clearly committed to a cause they genuinely believed in, which uniformly was the exorcism of capitalism. I didn’t run into a single “bad” character. In fact, most of the people I ran into were very interesting. Every person I asked a question answered me in good faith and was happy to explain their beef with the system, politics, whatever.

But, make no mistake, the OWS crowd is not the “slice of America” the hipsters have insisted.

Apparently the 99%-ers are having a Day of Action using mass protests to “shut down” Wall Street. Of course. Because the OWS crowd’s complaint was the “death of the American dream” and high unemployment, and shutting down Wall Street and the stock exchange will certainly, certainly improve the unemployment rate.

Fantastic. I don’t know who is worse: misguided, radical OWS protesters or their gullible hipster enablers who tried to convince everyone that they were simply a group of “everymen” who felt the traditional American dream was slipping away.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:
The #Occupy protests are a result of endemic and systemic problems that exist in the USA and for some reason many posters in this thread are unwilling to acknowledge those problems exist.

Why?[/quote]

Because they are protesting in the wrong place…they need to occupy Washington D.C.

Do you really think that any change will occur without laws mandating it?

Obama’s biggest donors were large corporations…maybe they should occupy Obama.

See the difference?[/quote]

Every senator is a millionaire, and no one is able to run for president, or even try to become a presidential candidate, without corporate backing.

This isn’t limited to Obama. Every politician is paid and bought for by corporate america.

There is no difference between Washington D.C. and Wall Street anymore.[/quote]

What do those in power fear? Removal from power.

All the politicians are supremely relieved that the focus is on wall street and not their incompetent leadership.

Washington makes the laws…not wall street, so answer my question… why occupy the bank when the legislators who control the purse strings in Washington are left untouched?

U Mad?


This is what most people think…

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Apparently the 99%-ers are having a Day of Action using mass protests to “shut down” Wall Street. Of course. Because the OWS crowd’s complaint was the “death of the American dream” and high unemployment, and shutting down Wall Street and the stock exchange will certainly, certainly improve the unemployment rate.

Fantastic. I don’t know who is worse: misguided, radical OWS protesters or their gullible hipster enablers who tried to convince everyone that they were simply a group of “everymen” who felt the traditional American dream was slipping away.[/quote]

The traditional American dream is slipping away. Didn’t you already say you believe that? At least the middle class certainly is.

Weren’t the OWSers saying something about corporations influence on Washington? Maybe I’m thinking of that other group. Not that that makes this silliness any better, but hey.

PS I always kinda picture you as a 20-something hipster. Are you an enabler?

PPS If you didn’t catch it, this is a joke post.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

The system is rigged in favor of those in charge. Those in charge are above the law and they are robbing you blind.
[/quote]

Oh? How is it ‘rigged’ in favor of those in charge?This is what I mean… It sounds all good and profound but what you said has no meaning. What system? Whose in charged? How is ‘it’ rigged?

The elephant in the room is the ‘it’ in this scenario. It’s not defined. If ‘it’s’ unfair and is robbing me I surely want it stopped, but I don’t know what you are talking about.

Lower approval than the tea party movement, now. Only themselves to blame.

Watching Occu-Poo LA now, protestors take over Bank of America and set up a tent in the lobby. Patrons are scared, and employees are clueless on what to do. The lawn at City Hall is so destroyed from the puke, shit, piss, and Lord knows what else, it might never be restored.

This is a disgrace, for every bad comment said about the Tea Party, there should be 100 fold more about this Occu-Poo Movement.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Watching Occu-Poo LA now, protestors take over Bank of America [/quote]

Potential felonies?

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Watching Occu-Poo LA now, protestors take over Bank of America [/quote]

Potential felonies?[/quote]

/crosses fingers

I haven’t been following this thread, so I apologize if someone’s already posted this editorial by the very funny Joe Queenan. I think he explains it fairly well.

Regardless of there you sit on the political fence, you have to admit he’s pragmatic.

Yeah, that’s right, keep pushing it…

Release the damn dogs and open up the fire hoses already…and that’s being nice…I’d support doing a lot worse to them…terrorists are terrorists and should be treated as such.

[quote]benos4752 wrote:
Yeah, that’s right, keep pushing it…

Release the damn dogs and open up the fire hoses already…and that’s being nice…I’d support doing a lot worse to them…terrorists are terrorists and should be treated as such.[/quote]

Wow…

Occu-Poo Los Angeles has filed a restraining order against the LAPD, yes, the smelly people actually filed a motion to prevent cops from arresting them. The best part is, the LA City Council passed a resolution supporting the Occu-Poo movement in the beginning, so the restraining order might be granted.