Obesity is Officially a Disease

[quote]drunkpig wrote:

I’m totally with you on the Golda Portesky thing - But my avatar is a page from a 1977 JC Penny catalog.[/quote]

Sorry, I posted the wrong photo.


Dammit


Shit, sorry, I’m totally internet incompetent. I give up.

This thread is now officially the best thread in the history of PWI.

What is this blessing being bestowed upon us??

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What is this blessing being bestowed upon us?? [/quote]

Alyssa Campanella - former Miss USA.

I hate to get back to the subject at hand - YouTube

“Despite exercising three or four hours every single day and following the food pyramid to the letter, I gained a lot of weight (note: 40 pounds) and developed something called metabolic syndrome.”

Mmm hmm.

[quote]anonym wrote:
“Despite exercising three or four hours every single day and following the food pyramid to the letter, I gained a lot of weight (note: 40 pounds) and developed something called metabolic syndrome.”

Mmm hmm.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure we have known the food pyramid has been wrong for years now. I get most of my carbs from fruits and vegetables and that works for me. I still say the main problem is lack of exercise and poor diet. It sucks that the woman in the story lost her foot but it is really no ones fault to blame but her own. Type 1, that sucks that you were born with it and now have to watch your insulin for the rest of your life. Type 2, time to make a life style change and hopefully cure yourself of this disease.

After living in Germany for 2 years and traveling around Europe I feel very strongly that obesity is due to poor diet and lack of activity/exercise. Take Amsterdam for example, most of the people there don’t have a hard gym regiment or extremely strict diet. They just walk, bike or even roller skate to get around, and they don’t eat like complete fatasses and have smaller portions. It was rare to see a fat person there and if they were who knows if they were a citizen or a tourist. Part of the problem is making everything easy and convenient for people. Escalators, elevators, the little sidewalk that moves in the airport instead of just walking or taking the stairs. Wow do I hate seeing fat people in the little scooters.

[quote]T11 wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
“Despite exercising three or four hours every single day and following the food pyramid to the letter, I gained a lot of weight (note: 40 pounds) and developed something called metabolic syndrome.”

Mmm hmm.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure we have known the food pyramid has been wrong for years now. I get most of my carbs from fruits and vegetables and that works for me. I still say the main problem is lack of exercise and poor diet. It sucks that the woman in the story lost her foot but it is really no ones fault to blame but her own. Type 1, that sucks that you were born with it and now have to watch your insulin for the rest of your life. Type 2, time to make a life style change and hopefully cure yourself of this disease.

After living in Germany for 2 years and traveling around Europe I feel very strongly that obesity is due to poor diet and lack of activity/exercise. Take Amsterdam for example, most of the people there don’t have a hard gym regiment or extremely strict diet. They just walk, bike or even roller skate to get around, and they don’t eat like complete fatasses and have smaller portions. It was rare to see a fat person there and if they were who knows if they were a citizen or a tourist. Part of the problem is making everything easy and convenient for people. Escalators, elevators, the little sidewalk that moves in the airport instead of just walking or taking the stairs. Wow do I hate seeing fat people in the little scooters. [/quote]

I am curious how GMO fits in there , I was in the EU last year . Their food is different , it tastes different , it looks different ,Their Dairies are not cesspools , The cattle I saw were walking around on grass , Their Strawberries are not the size of basket balls , Their portion sizes are smaller as well.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]T11 wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
“Despite exercising three or four hours every single day and following the food pyramid to the letter, I gained a lot of weight (note: 40 pounds) and developed something called metabolic syndrome.”

Mmm hmm.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure we have known the food pyramid has been wrong for years now. I get most of my carbs from fruits and vegetables and that works for me. I still say the main problem is lack of exercise and poor diet. It sucks that the woman in the story lost her foot but it is really no ones fault to blame but her own. Type 1, that sucks that you were born with it and now have to watch your insulin for the rest of your life. Type 2, time to make a life style change and hopefully cure yourself of this disease.

After living in Germany for 2 years and traveling around Europe I feel very strongly that obesity is due to poor diet and lack of activity/exercise. Take Amsterdam for example, most of the people there don’t have a hard gym regiment or extremely strict diet. They just walk, bike or even roller skate to get around, and they don’t eat like complete fatasses and have smaller portions. It was rare to see a fat person there and if they were who knows if they were a citizen or a tourist. Part of the problem is making everything easy and convenient for people. Escalators, elevators, the little sidewalk that moves in the airport instead of just walking or taking the stairs. Wow do I hate seeing fat people in the little scooters. [/quote]

I am curious how GMO fits in there , I was in the EU last year . Their food is different , it tastes different , it looks different ,Their Dairies are not cesspools , The cattle I saw were walking around on grass , Their Strawberries are not the size of basket balls , Their portion sizes are smaller as well. [/quote]

  1. strawberries being “basketball size” is a result of physical crossbreeding, not vector insertion of other genes

  2. portion sizes don’t have anything to do with GMO foods

  3. the taste portion is not a result of GMO foods either–it is a result of more spices/herbs, and or culturally different foods or cooking styles in the first place, with the added benefit that they do not add artificial sweeteners or HFCS to a lot of their foods for “better taste”. None of those things has to do with GMO, it has to do with industrial food processing–again not genetic.

  4. Dairies as cesspools. Can’t comment, but still not GMO–that’s health compliance standards not genetic modification. If I don’t clean up my house and I crap on the floor that is not a result of me being genetically modified, that’s me being a complete retard and ignoring health standards. Different thing entirely although very very bad.

  5. I see plenty of cattle walking around grass in the Midwest. a) that doesn’t mean they’re not put into the slaughterhouse later (most are “corn finished”) in both countries so you can’t say one way or the other and b) that doesn’t mean the cattle on the grass aren’t grassfed all the way through to butchering like my relatives do. and c) not genetic modification, whatever it is.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]T11 wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
“Despite exercising three or four hours every single day and following the food pyramid to the letter, I gained a lot of weight (note: 40 pounds) and developed something called metabolic syndrome.”

Mmm hmm.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure we have known the food pyramid has been wrong for years now. I get most of my carbs from fruits and vegetables and that works for me. I still say the main problem is lack of exercise and poor diet. It sucks that the woman in the story lost her foot but it is really no ones fault to blame but her own. Type 1, that sucks that you were born with it and now have to watch your insulin for the rest of your life. Type 2, time to make a life style change and hopefully cure yourself of this disease.

After living in Germany for 2 years and traveling around Europe I feel very strongly that obesity is due to poor diet and lack of activity/exercise. Take Amsterdam for example, most of the people there don’t have a hard gym regiment or extremely strict diet. They just walk, bike or even roller skate to get around, and they don’t eat like complete fatasses and have smaller portions. It was rare to see a fat person there and if they were who knows if they were a citizen or a tourist. Part of the problem is making everything easy and convenient for people. Escalators, elevators, the little sidewalk that moves in the airport instead of just walking or taking the stairs. Wow do I hate seeing fat people in the little scooters. [/quote]

I am curious how GMO fits in there , I was in the EU last year . Their food is different , it tastes different , it looks different ,Their Dairies are not cesspools , The cattle I saw were walking around on grass , Their Strawberries are not the size of basket balls , Their portion sizes are smaller as well. [/quote]

  1. strawberries being “basketball size” is a result of physical crossbreeding, not vector insertion of other genes

  2. portion sizes don’t have anything to do with GMO foods

  3. the taste portion is not a result of GMO foods either–it is a result of more spices/herbs, and or culturally different foods or cooking styles in the first place, with the added benefit that they do not add artificial sweeteners or HFCS to a lot of their foods for “better taste”. None of those things has to do with GMO, it has to do with industrial food processing–again not genetic.

  4. Dairies as cesspools. Can’t comment, but still not GMO–that’s health compliance standards not genetic modification. If I don’t clean up my house and I crap on the floor that is not a result of me being genetically modified, that’s me being a complete retard and ignoring health standards. Different thing entirely although very very bad.

  5. I see plenty of cattle walking around grass in the Midwest. a) that doesn’t mean they’re not put into the slaughterhouse later (most are “corn finished”) in both countries so you can’t say one way or the other and b) that doesn’t mean the cattle on the grass aren’t grassfed all the way through to butchering like my relatives do. and c) not genetic modification, whatever it is.[/quote]

Great points and for clarifying with him before I did. I was just making a point of them having a more active life style. I was trying to rid this thread of the GMO discussion. Smaller portions aka less food, not GMO.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]T11 wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
“Despite exercising three or four hours every single day and following the food pyramid to the letter, I gained a lot of weight (note: 40 pounds) and developed something called metabolic syndrome.”

Mmm hmm.[/quote]

I’m pretty sure we have known the food pyramid has been wrong for years now. I get most of my carbs from fruits and vegetables and that works for me. I still say the main problem is lack of exercise and poor diet. It sucks that the woman in the story lost her foot but it is really no ones fault to blame but her own. Type 1, that sucks that you were born with it and now have to watch your insulin for the rest of your life. Type 2, time to make a life style change and hopefully cure yourself of this disease.

After living in Germany for 2 years and traveling around Europe I feel very strongly that obesity is due to poor diet and lack of activity/exercise. Take Amsterdam for example, most of the people there don’t have a hard gym regiment or extremely strict diet. They just walk, bike or even roller skate to get around, and they don’t eat like complete fatasses and have smaller portions. It was rare to see a fat person there and if they were who knows if they were a citizen or a tourist. Part of the problem is making everything easy and convenient for people. Escalators, elevators, the little sidewalk that moves in the airport instead of just walking or taking the stairs. Wow do I hate seeing fat people in the little scooters. [/quote]

I am curious how GMO fits in there , I was in the EU last year . Their food is different , it tastes different , it looks different ,Their Dairies are not cesspools , The cattle I saw were walking around on grass , Their Strawberries are not the size of basket balls , Their portion sizes are smaller as well. [/quote]

  1. strawberries being “basketball size” is a result of physical crossbreeding, not vector insertion of other genes

  2. portion sizes don’t have anything to do with GMO foods

  3. the taste portion is not a result of GMO foods either–it is a result of more spices/herbs, and or culturally different foods or cooking styles in the first place, with the added benefit that they do not add artificial sweeteners or HFCS to a lot of their foods for “better taste”. None of those things has to do with GMO, it has to do with industrial food processing–again not genetic.

  4. Dairies as cesspools. Can’t comment, but still not GMO–that’s health compliance standards not genetic modification. If I don’t clean up my house and I crap on the floor that is not a result of me being genetically modified, that’s me being a complete retard and ignoring health standards. Different thing entirely although very very bad.

  5. I see plenty of cattle walking around grass in the Midwest. a) that doesn’t mean they’re not put into the slaughterhouse later (most are “corn finished”) in both countries so you can’t say one way or the other and b) that doesn’t mean the cattle on the grass aren’t grassfed all the way through to butchering like my relatives do. and c) not genetic modification, whatever it is.[/quote]

Neither do cows walking around on grass have anything to do with GMO .

I was trying to point out some differences in Europe and America diet

I have seen way to many feed lots and Dairies in America . they are cesspools period …

Back in the 60s my Grandfather had a Dairy , he had 20 cows on 100 acres . In AZ our Dairies are 500 cows on 5 acres . BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE.

I used to drive US 54 going through Kansas just west of Liberal there are a bunch of feed lots . I could not drive through that area with out seeing many dead cows and many more (by my estimation) that were dying . They were HUge fucking Cesspools , stink to HIGH HEAVEN .

I did not even see anything close to what happens in America . In EU I traveled Germany, Belgium , Netherlands, France and England .

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Back in the 60s my Grandfather had a Dairy , he had 20 cows on 100 acres . In AZ our Dairies are 500 cows on 5 acres . BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE.

I used to drive US 54 going through Kansas just west of Liberal there are a bunch of feed lots . I could not drive through that area with out seeing many dead cows and many more (by my estimation) that were dying . They were HUge fucking Cesspools , stink to HIGH HEAVEN .
[/quote]

Everything quoted above is nothing but a pure fucking lie.

You know nothing about the feedlot industry. You know nothing about the dairy industry.

The fact that you saw dead cows means dick. Your estimeation of the condition of cattle means even less.

You are truly too stupid to converse with in an intelligent manner.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I’m too stupid to form my own argument, and because I know nothing about the subject matter, I will search you tube for a video that says wet pen conditions are bad for cattle.

But my grand pappy owned a dairy 20 years before I was born, so that makes me qualified in my own, drug-ravaged mind[/quote]

When it rains, the ground gets muddy.

You posted a youtube video proving your stupidity? Why?

What the video

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
What the video [/quote]

I did. He said nothing to support you ignorance.