The animal loses 79 percent of it’s life just on a diet of grain nothing said about living in a cesspool
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
What the video [/quote]
I did. He said nothing to support you ignorance. [/quote]
i guess others will have to make their own judgement
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The animal loses 79 percent of it’s life just on a diet of grain nothing said about living in a cesspool [/quote]
I was referring to the first video. You are aware you posted two results from your you tube search, right?
Beef cattle lose 100% of their life unless they are lucky enough to be selected for breeding stock. And even then they still wind up being knocked in the head and gutted like a fish.
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The animal loses 79 percent of it’s life just on a diet of grain nothing said about living in a cesspool [/quote]
I was referring to the first video. You are aware you posted two results from your you tube search, right?
Beef cattle lose 100% of their life unless they are lucky enough to be selected for breeding stock. And even then they still wind up being knocked in the head and gutted like a fish. [/quote]
I am not talking about (LUCK) I am talking about cattle that are so sick they die in 3 years when their natural life is around 14 years
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The animal loses 79 percent of it’s life just on a diet of grain nothing said about living in a cesspool [/quote]
I was referring to the first video. You are aware you posted two results from your you tube search, right?
Beef cattle lose 100% of their life unless they are lucky enough to be selected for breeding stock. And even then they still wind up being knocked in the head and gutted like a fish. [/quote]
I am not talking about (LUCK) I am talking about cattle that are so sick they die in 3 years when their natural life is around 14 years
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You really don’t know shit about the feedlot business, do you? Or the commercial cattle business period for that matter, huh?
You just deal false information and cheap drugs.
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The animal loses 79 percent of it’s life just on a diet of grain nothing said about living in a cesspool [/quote]
I was referring to the first video. You are aware you posted two results from your you tube search, right?
Beef cattle lose 100% of their life unless they are lucky enough to be selected for breeding stock. And even then they still wind up being knocked in the head and gutted like a fish. [/quote]
I am not talking about (LUCK) I am talking about cattle that are so sick they die in 3 years when their natural life is around 14 years
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You really don’t know shit about the feedlot business, do you? Or the commercial cattle business period for that matter, huh?
You just deal false information and cheap drugs.
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What’s to know ? they are open cesspools the cattle are terribly sick , who cares if the meat tastes better ? I eat very little beef and i am considering buying my own grass fed feeder .
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
What’s to know ? they are open cesspools the cattle are terribly sick , who cares if the meat tastes better ? I eat very little beef and i am considering buying my own grass fed feeder .[/quote]
Obviously, there’s a lot more to the process of how a steak makes it to your grocery store meat counter than you are willing to understand. Given your previous multiple displays of willful ignorance - it comes as no surprise to anyone with two brain cells left to rub together.
You are passing off complete lies as truth. You just happen to be trying to pass those lies off on someone has a college degree in this particular area and has worked in and around the beef industry for the better part of 25 years.
What’s to know? I know you are in way over your head on this one, and the smartest thing you could do is just walk away and go get high.
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
What’s to know ? they are open cesspools the cattle are terribly sick , who cares if the meat tastes better ? I eat very little beef and i am considering buying my own grass fed feeder .[/quote]
Obviously, there’s a lot more to the process of how a steak makes it to your grocery store meat counter than you are willing to understand. Given your previous multiple displays of willful ignorance - it comes as no surprise to anyone with two brain cells left to rub together.
You are passing off complete lies as truth. You just happen to be trying to pass those lies off on someone who happens to have a college degree in this particular area and has worked in and around the beef industry for the better part of 25 years.
What’s to know? I know you are in way over your head on this one, and the smartest thing you could do is just walk away and go get high. [/quote]
You are entitled to think anything you like . I personally think eating sick animals could make you sick . I told you I don’t eat much beef , once a month would be a lot . I think how a feed lot works has nothing to do with the subject at hand . It could partially be responsible for Obesity and it could be the DIRECT cause of many illnesses
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
What’s to know ? they are open cesspools the cattle are terribly sick , who cares if the meat tastes better ? I eat very little beef and i am considering buying my own grass fed feeder .[/quote]
Obviously, there’s a lot more to the process of how a steak makes it to your grocery store meat counter than you are willing to understand. Given your previous multiple displays of willful ignorance - it comes as no surprise to anyone with two brain cells left to rub together.
You are passing off complete lies as truth. You just happen to be trying to pass those lies off on someone who happens to have a college degree in this particular area and has worked in and around the beef industry for the better part of 25 years.
What’s to know? I know you are in way over your head on this one, and the smartest thing you could do is just walk away and go get high. [/quote]
You are entitled to think anything you like . I personally think eating sick animals could make you sick . I told you I don’t eat much beef , once a month would be a lot . I think how a feed lot works has nothing to do with the subject at hand . It could partially be responsible for Obesity and it could be the DIRECT cause of many illnesses [/quote]
Nice dodge.
You made the charge that breeding stock have their lives shortened by 79% because of living in feedlots. This is a lie.
People are eating sick cattle. This is a lie.
Running a 500-cow dairy on 5 acres. This is a lie.
You were the dumbass who brought all this up - including your grand-pappy’s dairy, which obviously gives you the right to become an expert on all things bovine.
If it’s not important - then don’t bring it up. But I like how you start out all internet expert then, when called out for spreading lies and having dick for knowledge, you quickly decide it’s not that important.
Only thing worse than a liar is a chicken shit liar.
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
Nice dodge.
You made the charge that breeding stock have their lives shortened by 79% because of living in feedlots. This is a lie.
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[quote]drunkpig wrote:
People are eating sick cattle. This is a lie.
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Yeah. You’ve already posted those once. Like I said - you don’t even know what you’re posting. You are just doing you tube searches. Your willful ignorance - or your drug addiction - precludes you from being able to understand anything that is being said up to and including the baseless videos you are posting from a stupid you tube search.
Ag Gag laws http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/05/ag-gag-public-health/ Some states are expanding these laws to include all corporations . Google Ag gag laws
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ag Gag laws http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/05/ag-gag-public-health/ Some states are expanding these laws to include all corporations . Google Ag gag laws [/quote]
Ag-gag laws are stupid.
This has nothing to do with your ignorance of the beef cattle industry.
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ag Gag laws http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/05/ag-gag-public-health/ Some states are expanding these laws to include all corporations . Google Ag gag laws [/quote]
Ag-gag laws are stupid.
This has nothing to do with your ignorance of the beef cattle industry.[/quote]
It is amusing that your defense of the Cattle Industry lies directly on my ignorance . You have failed to address any of the issues . You think the case revolves around my drug use or the fact that I am not concerned with the profitability of feed lots .
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ag Gag laws http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/05/ag-gag-public-health/ Some states are expanding these laws to include all corporations . Google Ag gag laws [/quote]
Ag-gag laws are stupid.
This has nothing to do with your ignorance of the beef cattle industry.[/quote]
It is amusing that your defense of the Cattle Industry lies directly on my ignorance . You have failed to address any of the issues . You think the case revolves around my drug use or the fact that I am not concerned with the profitability of feed lots .
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- Commercial beef breeding is done on ranches. Never in a feedlot. There is no reduction in lifespan of breeding stock - especially not 79%. This is a fact. Your little grass fed video is lying by making it sound as if all breeding stock are subject to confined quarters and full grain rations. There are very few instances of feedlots holding and feeding cattle for more than a year. Most are hanging in packing plants within 6-9 months.
The only time I have ever heard of breeding stock living in a feedlot situation was at a closed - not quarantined - yard. and the breeding stock was registered heifers being fed there due to drought conditions. And even then - it was only for a short period. Not 3-4 years.
- Cattle live outside. When it rains - it gets muddy. The Canadian video you posted is talking about having an extremely wet year and the effects on the cattle due to the rainfall. Grass-fed ranchers face the same problems whether you choose to believe it or not. If sick cattle are being slaughtered - it is the fault of the USDA rep at the slaughterhouse not doing his job.
There is no practice of selling underweight, sick cattle to the american consumer.
You might want to get your facts from somewhere other than PETA approved sources. They have an agenda, and the truth is not part of it.
I drove through those feed yards outside Liberal Kansas, they are on hills , there have to be millions of cattle , it is dry as hell and they are still cesspools
I mentioned nothing about breeding.
If you watch the videos it will explain that cattle on the diet the feed lots feed them , they will not even live 25%of their life . I do not know what else to call these cattle other than sick
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I drove through those feed yards outside Liberal Kansas, they are on hills , there have to be millions of cattle , it is dry as hell and they are still cesspools
I mentioned nothing about breeding.
If you watch the videos it will explain that cattle on the diet the feed lots feed them , they will not even live 25%of their life . I do not know what else to call these cattle other than sick
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The video uses the life sapn of 14 years. That is for breeding stock - the ‘lucky ones’. the vast overwhelming majority of commercial cattle - including the "ethical’ grass-fed ones live less than 3-4 years.
So I’m not sure where you little youtube search result is getting it’s information.
Your anecdotal evidence wrt to a Kansas feed yard shows your ignorance. Hell - this entire discussion shows your intellectual laziness.
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I drove through those feed yards outside Liberal Kansas, they are on hills , there have to be millions of cattle , it is dry as hell and they are still cesspools
I mentioned nothing about breeding.
If you watch the videos it will explain that cattle on the diet the feed lots feed them , they will not even live 25%of their life . I do not know what else to call these cattle other than sick
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The video uses the life sapn of 14 years. That is for breeding stock - the ‘lucky ones’. the vast overwhelming majority of commercial cattle - including the "ethical’ grass-fed ones live less than 3-4 years.
So I’m not sure where you little youtube search result is getting it’s information.
Your anecdotal evidence wrt to a Kansas feed yard shows your ignorance. Hell - this entire discussion shows your intellectual laziness.
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You still miss the minutiae of what I am saying . We are not talking about lucky cattle . We are talking about cattle that do not have the ability live beyond 3 or 4 years as apposed to 13 or 14 years.
the one video is Real Agriculture .com http://www.realagriculture.com/
I think the whole conversation shows your lack to understand your fellow man
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I drove through those feed yards outside Liberal Kansas, they are on hills , there have to be millions of cattle , it is dry as hell and they are still cesspools
I mentioned nothing about breeding.
If you watch the videos it will explain that cattle on the diet the feed lots feed them , they will not even live 25%of their life . I do not know what else to call these cattle other than sick
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The video uses the life sapn of 14 years. That is for breeding stock - the ‘lucky ones’. the vast overwhelming majority of commercial cattle - including the "ethical’ grass-fed ones live less than 3-4 years.
So I’m not sure where you little youtube search result is getting it’s information.
Your anecdotal evidence wrt to a Kansas feed yard shows your ignorance. Hell - this entire discussion shows your intellectual laziness.
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You still miss the minutiae of what I am saying . We are not talking about lucky cattle . We are talking about cattle that do not have the ability live beyond 3 or 4 years as apposed to 13 or 14 years.
the one video is Real Agriculture .com http://www.realagriculture.com/
I think the whole conversation shows your lack to understand your fellow man [/quote]
No bovine raised for commercial purposes - to be turned into ground round - lives longer than 3-4 years. This is a fact.
The only bovines that live to be even 6 years old are breeding stock - and they get to live as long as they keep making little baby bovines, or making cows pregnant.
The notion that cattlemen would purposely create living conditions that are counter-productive for making little baby bovines is just stupid.
If my fellow man is so utterly ignorant about how the beef business is operated, or if they are so ate up with PETA propaganda that they think a cattle producer would go out of his way to be criminally cruel to his investment - no I don;t care to know anything about them. They are too stupid to deserve my understanding.