Go find those posts (we just had a debate about it not too long ago) and let me know what was actually stated.
I have little interest in pursuing this much further, but to your point - why would I need to go in search of old threads for your comments when I can just look in this one?
On Page 9 of this thread, you offered up this gem:
I truly believe that the only people interested in this story are those who were planning on voting someone else to begin with. Maybe they are just looking for loud reasons for that choice so no one calls them racist.
Here we have your insinuation that folks not voting for Obama pressing this issue are…drum roll…racist.[/quote]
I meant exactly what I wrote, which wasn’t what you just wrote. I didn’t call anyone a racist in that statement but implied that anyone looking this hard for fault that they blame a man for what other men have said are doing so that no one would call them a racist when they acknowledge they won’t be voting for him. In other words, in the face of not much to bash the man on, people are scrounging for anything to support the decision they have already made and since race IS an issue in this country, they are doing so to avoid anyone labeling them racist.
I understand why this had to be explained to someone like you so no hard feelings.
I don’t consider Zap a racist, don’t consider Boston a racist and don’t consider Rainjack a racist, even though I am more than sure all of those men are not voting for Obama, so how does what you tried to label me as make any sense?
I already pointed out one racist in this thread.
What gets me is how everyone here who claims they are so upset by what the Rev said didn’t tackle what that poster wrote at all.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What gets me is how everyone here who claims they are so upset by what the Rev said didn’t tackle what that poster wrote at all.
[/quote]
What poster? And what was written? I feel I’ve missed something.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
What gets me is how everyone here who claims they are so upset by what the Rev said didn’t tackle what that poster wrote at all.
What poster? And what was written? I feel I’ve missed something.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
What gets me is how everyone here who claims they are so upset by what the Rev said didn’t tackle what that poster wrote at all.
What poster? And what was written? I feel I’ve missed something.
Ahhh. Yeah, that’s a crap thing to say. And yes, racist. I don’t know why one would use prejudice against black servicemen during the WW’s, to further glorify the sacrifices of white soldiers. But dang man, it’s 20 pages already. I’ve practically skipped entire pages. This is my first time even reading this exchange between you two.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
What gets me is how everyone here who claims they are so upset by what the Rev said didn’t tackle what that poster wrote at all.
What poster? And what was written? I feel I’ve missed something.
Ahhh. Yeah, that’s a crap thing to say. And yes, racist. I don’t know why one would use prejudice against black servicemen during the WW’s, to further glorify the sacrifices of white soldiers. But dang man, it’s 20 pages already. I’ve practically skipped entire pages. This is my first time even reading this exchange between you two. [/quote]
I’m not really faulting you personally, but I know that many DID read that post and in a thread about how much people hate what some Reverend said, no one said a fucking word aside from “Neuromancer”. It strikes one as really fucking hilarious and points out how people really don’t give a shit about what people say unless it involves them personally.
For the record, that statement was originally made in the earlier stages of this debate. That means people skipped it FOR DAYS.
This the honest to God’s truth. And nobody wants to hear it. Especially McCain when Obama called him on it.
Like somebody earlier in the thread Ron Paul also said this also.
Why do we need to police the world? Especially when we are going broke doing it, and people want to “figure out” how to fix the economy…
[quote]100meters wrote:
Funny,
Our being in Iraq is the only reason for Al qaeda to be there, the military just did a study on this. The easiest way to get rid of them is leave.
and it’s clear McCain is trying to conflate the bad guys. Only Lieberman was off message.
Also they seem to be unaware that the sunni extremists/AQI have already declared victory, and Iran’s influence has already greatly increased. They really are idiots over there.[/quote]
[quote]greekdawg wrote:
Like somebody earlier in the thread Ron Paul also said this also.
[/quote]
Ah, glad you mentioned him. Just as a point of fact. I was set to vote for the man. Out comes the newsletters with racist rhetoric, bearing his name, and I refused to vote for him in my primary.
People can support this for a long time if they’re not feeling the costs. I don’t really think they are right now. If they start feeling the costs, it will take a lot more convincing - it may still be possible, but it will take a lot more effort and focus than this administration has given toward doing so.
Ahhh. Yeah, that’s a crap thing to say. And yes, racist. I don’t know why one would use prejudice against black servicemen during the WW’s, to further glorify the sacrifices of white soldiers. But dang man, it’s 20 pages already. I’ve practically skipped entire pages. This is my first time even reading this exchange between you two. [/quote]
Agree on both counts - it was uncalled for, and I missed it.
I can barely keep up with my own conversations on this thread. Average of 5 pages per day, and I start each day several hours behind here on the West Coast. Today while I was putting together a long post there were 10 other posts between the time I started writing and the time I posted… And I’ve only checked out this and two or three other threads all week (when your family is visiting and you’re not taking time off it’s hard to keep up sometimes…).
In other words, I think too much is inferred from people missing a comment.
[quote]I already pointed out one racist in this thread.
What gets me is how everyone here who claims they are so upset by what the Rev said didn’t tackle what that poster wrote at all.[/quote]
Are they somehow answerable for what I’ve written?
You’ve denigrated my heritage, claimed that America is built on the backs of nonwhite slaves:
At that point in time, I felt it would be appropriate to defend my ancestors, who enslaved no one and worked for everything they had. All the while, you continued (and still continue) to use white guilt to prevent us from even discussing the issue, while complaining how we’ve erased your history, experimented on you and done various other things. You’ve denigrated my history and attempted to shame me from speaking my mind, and I felt compelled to respond.
Sorry I’m not responding with the usual white guilt cowardice that you’ve come to expect. The only racist here is you.
Honestly. I think the racist stuff was meant to destroy him politically (which it did along with the media blackout) so nobody would take a second look at him. The stuff he believes in doesn’t seem to coincide with him being a racist. And yes, he was my first choice as well too.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ah, glad you mentioned him. Just as a point of fact. I was set to vote for the man. Out comes the newsletters with racist rhetoric, bearing his name, and I refused to vote for him in my primary. [/quote]
You’ve denigrated my heritage, claimed that America is built on the backs of nonwhite slaves:
This country was built on the backs of slaves, Chinese immigrants and just about every other race that gets looked down upon at times.
At that point in time, I felt it would be appropriate to defend my ancestors, who enslaved no one and worked for everything they had. All the while, you continued (and still continue) to use white guilt to prevent us from even discussing the issue, while complaining how we’ve erased your history, experimented on you and done various other things. You’ve denigrated my history and attempted to shame me from speaking my mind, and I felt compelled to respond.
Sorry I’m not responding with the usual white guilt cowardice that you’ve come to expect. The only racist here is you. [/quote]
I’m with you on the white guilt thing. No white person should feel ashamed for being anti-AA, calling out Wright, pointing out how hate crimes against whites are growing out of proportion, etc. It’s the bit about the role, and contribution of, black servicemen in the WW’s. It’s pretty far out of line. I mean, it wasn’t really up to them, was it?
I made kind of a big deal about this when I first saw the video and I regret it now. Mostly I hate to see this entanglement of religion and racial obsession. But I’m not holding it against Obama. It’s offputting certainly but I can get past it.
You’re free to “point out” whatever you want, but if you “point out” something that isn’t true, yes, you should feel ashamed. Anti-white hate crimes constitute less than 10% of the hate crimes and have decreased steadily over the last few decades.
“A Justice Department study in 1998 confirmed that nearly 20 percent of the hate crimes examined were committed against whites by black attackers. And the Southern Poverty Law Center has noted that black-on-white violence soared during the 1990s.” http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2000/03/06/hate/index.html
How has it decreased over the decades if it “soared” during the 90’s?
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
I already pointed out one racist in this thread.
What gets me is how everyone here who claims they are so upset by what the Rev said didn’t tackle what that poster wrote at all.
Are they somehow answerable for what I’ve written?
You’ve denigrated my heritage, claimed that America is built on the backs of nonwhite slaves:
This country was built on the backs of slaves, Chinese immigrants and just about every other race that gets looked down upon at times.
At that point in time, I felt it would be appropriate to defend my ancestors, who enslaved no one and worked for everything they had. All the while, you continued (and still continue) to use white guilt to prevent us from even discussing the issue, while complaining how we’ve erased your history, experimented on you and done various other things. You’ve denigrated my history and attempted to shame me from speaking my mind, and I felt compelled to respond.
Sorry I’m not responding with the usual white guilt cowardice that you’ve come to expect. The only racist here is you. [/quote]
You denigrate yourself with the drivel you write.
You denigrate all other ‘white’ people with your disgusting,divisive prejudice.
I’ve read your posts on other threads,and you’re all about hate.
Hispanics,latinos,muslims,blacks,orientals,and I’m pretty sure all other whites that don’t agree with you are beneath your cultured
opinion.
All you do is point out and thrive on difference and pointing out your own alleged racial,religious and cultural superiority.
Rather expound your supremacist,racist views loudly and proudly,and stop hiding behind your ‘Christianity’.
Didn’t Obama say of Imus, “Nobody on my staff would be working for me if they made remarks like that”?
Not defending Imus—have never listened to him—don’t think we need shock jocks in
our society—but has he ever done any good—is he more than “one dimensional”?
Obama originally told Olbermann “Actually
I wasn’t there” didn’t hear it—didn’t know
In his speech, he said “Sure I knew but put it in context”
Mark Furman claimed his use of the n word should be put in context but it wasn’t.
Obama contradicted himself in his speech—
siad we had been in racial stalemate for yrs then said Wright’s problem was that
he saw society as static—I believe a
stalemate implies a static situation.
He said his church is “not that controversial”—in the speech he reinforced
that notion by saying many black churches
are like his—hope that’s not true but
if it is this is a reversion to mob psychology—everybody’s doing it—they can’t punish us all.
I believe the country has gone to great lengths to condemn racism. Remember the guy who lost his job for using the word
“niggardly”? I could go on and on but you already know that.