Obama Victory Thread

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
What Christie did for himself was politically brilliant. He knew Obama was going to carry New Jersey. So he decided to politicize his ability to be bi-partisan for future use. It had zero outcome on the election, but made Christie look like a great guy. But maybe I’m cynical and jaded. [/quote]

Christie harmed Romney by elevating Obama. In any election you cannot elevate one candidate without harming the other…especially that close to an election. The storm was the left jab Christie tongue kissing Obama was the right cross.

And…because of that one move Christie will not only NEVER be considered as Presidential timber, but he won’t even be considered as running mate material.

Christie screwed himself in a very big way!

You have no idea.

But yes, if all he ever wanted to do was be Governor of New Jersey he’s fine. [/quote]

If I may, Zeb, what kind of business do you own?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
What Christie did for himself was politically brilliant. He knew Obama was going to carry New Jersey. So he decided to politicize his ability to be bi-partisan for future use. It had zero outcome on the election, but made Christie look like a great guy. But maybe I’m cynical and jaded. [/quote]

Christie harmed Romney by elevating Obama. In any election you cannot elevate one candidate without harming the other…especially that close to an election. The storm was the left jab Christie tongue kissing Obama was the right cross.

And…because of that one move Christie will not only NEVER be considered as Presidential timber, but he won’t even be considered as running mate material.

Christie screwed himself in a very big way!

You have no idea.

But yes, if all he ever wanted to do was be Governor of New Jersey he’s fine. [/quote]

LOL more bubble-talk from the right…“WE LOST THE ELECTION CAUSE THAT FAT ASS FUCKING GOVERNOR THINKS OBAMA DID A GOOD JOB”…nope, it had nothing to do with the weak candidate you put up for election and your inability to get votes that aren’t middle-aged white men.

Is Zeb really considered to be one of the intellectual posters on this forum? Jesus christ.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
@ Sloth that’s an article by former Bush 2 speech writer David Frum.[/quote]

I’m aware.
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Don’t know what’s actually in the article, but chances are great that it was some Newsweek editor who wrote the headline (like what happened to Romney with his NYT op-ed). The contents of the article could well be something like what Rove said the day after the election about demography etc.[/quote]

smh, sorry if I’ve missed this, and I will certainly understand if you prefer not to answer, but what sort of journalist are you?[/quote]

No problem at all, I’ve actually never really gone into it. I’d PM you but that doesn’t seem to be working, so everybody gets to hear! The brutally honest answer is a struggling one, lol.

I originally went into broadcast at the urging of some professors in grad school, but (just between us) it’s not the most intellectually stimulating bunch of folks. I’m sure there are really smart anchors out there, but in my experience they are the exception (probably no surprise there). So I ended up getting my degree in a combination of breaking dispatch and long-form magazine, with some conflict zone photography on the side, though I never really got good enough with a camera to be viable in that incredibly badass profession.

Since then, I scrape by. A lot of what I’ve written has been political opinion, butt hat particular field is, as you might guess, pretty saturated. The ultimate goal (and this is true for almost everybody who’s my age in the business) is to be on the staff at the NYT, the Economist, or the WSJ. The great thing about being young and freelance, though, is that it allows for a lot more diversity and experimentation, and I basically get to choose what I write about and thereby skip over a lot of the mundane stuff. The big outlets love freelancers for the same reasons that Apple loves Chinese workers, but at least it’s exciting–got to do a story about people who work in adventure tourism that sent me bungee jumping and skydiving for free.

In the last eight months or so I’ve been doing a lot on gang violence, one long and incredibly unpleasant series in NYC last winter and another in Ciudad Juarez. I’ve got a natural advantage in Mexico because I a) split my childhood between New York and Spain, so I speak Spanish and b) don’t have a wife or kids holding me back from going to unpleasant and/or moderately dangerous places (not that I’m taking fire in Afghanistan, mind you), so I’ll be headed back down there in a month or so.

The bad thing is that work (and therefore money) comes in waves and is highly unsteady, so I end up doing a lot of other stuff on the side. Right now, for instance, I’m getting ready to help an old professor from my undergrad days do some research on Armenian Churches–which, as of now, I know literally NOTHING about.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
S&P down 3.5% in two days…

Shit

Unverified laundry list of layoffs.

Victory![/quote]

By the time Obama is finished with his second term his followers will look back at his first term and say that those were the golden years!

I know most around here knows what a “W” recession looks like. Watch all the liberals jump to their feet, “Yeah that’s a recession that GW Bush started.” WRONG…now sit down and don’t speak again until you are called on.

A W recession is one where we go into a recession start to come out of it (as we are now) and then because of a weak economy and also many factors within the Presidents control, slide right back into. So you go up up up, and then before we’re out of it…down, down, down.

That is my prediction for the economy within the next 12-18 months based on the clueless fuck who sits in the White House.

(Sorry Tirib it had to be said)[/quote]

AKA the double dip recession…[/quote]

As soon as the socialist and chief eliminates the Bush tax cuts we are toast. But, I’m not totally believing John Boehner will cave on that one. But if he does you can count it down within 12 months or so another recession, this one deeper than the previous.

“The best defense of democracy is an informed electorate.”
Thomas Jefferson
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Look at today’s youth, some of the dumbest Bieber-lovin’ sissies you have ever seen.

These kids think it’s “kewl” to tax the rich.

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We really gotta get PM’s back.

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Can I ask what The Purge is and get a response without the post being deleted?

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[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
And for the record, I find it very disrespectful of Grimlorn and Kpsnap to suggest that “liberals and moderates don’t post here.” I named three names and I could easily name a lot more liberals and moderates who are good people and with whom most of us get along.

Florelius, jnd, Fletch, maybe Neuromancer (not sure what he is, but I like the guy, haha), groo, Mufasa, kaaleppi, and my good friend ephrem.

So please, take your generalizations and bigotry elsewhere. We are doing just fine here without your divisiveness. [/quote]

I am blushing Cortes haha.

I have been in many heated discussions here before, but it doesnt change the way I feel about PWI, wich is that it is from my experience one of the better political forums out there with a wide range of different opinions and with alot of knowledgeable posters. To say I have learned alot from reading and posting in this forum would be a understatement.

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I’m just impressed I spelled your screen name right. I did that from memory!

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
@ Sloth that’s an article by former Bush 2 speech writer David Frum.[/quote]

I’m aware.
[/quote]

Don’t know what’s actually in the article, but chances are great that it was some Newsweek editor who wrote the headline (like what happened to Romney with his NYT op-ed). The contents of the article could well be something like what Rove said the day after the election about demography etc.[/quote]

smh, sorry if I’ve missed this, and I will certainly understand if you prefer not to answer, but what sort of journalist are you?[/quote]

No problem at all, I’ve actually never really gone into it. I’d PM you but that doesn’t seem to be working, so everybody gets to hear! The brutally honest answer is a struggling one, lol.

I originally went into broadcast at the urging of some professors in grad school, but (just between us) it’s not the most intellectually stimulating bunch of folks. I’m sure there are really smart anchors out there, but in my experience they are the exception (probably no surprise there). So I ended up getting my degree in a combination of breaking dispatch and long-form magazine, with some conflict zone photography on the side, though I never really got good enough with a camera to be viable in that incredibly badass profession.

Since then, I scrape by. A lot of what I’ve written has been political opinion, butt hat particular field is, as you might guess, pretty saturated. The ultimate goal (and this is true for almost everybody who’s my age in the business) is to be on the staff at the NYT, the Economist, or the WSJ. The great thing about being young and freelance, though, is that it allows for a lot more diversity and experimentation, and I basically get to choose what I write about and thereby skip over a lot of the mundane stuff. The big outlets love freelancers for the same reasons that Apple loves Chinese workers, but at least it’s exciting–got to do a story about people who work in adventure tourism that sent me bungee jumping and skydiving for free.

In the last eight months or so I’ve been doing a lot on gang violence, one long and incredibly unpleasant series in NYC last winter and another in Ciudad Juarez. I’ve got a natural advantage in Mexico because I a) split my childhood between New York and Spain, so I speak Spanish and b) don’t have a wife or kids holding me back from going to unpleasant and/or moderately dangerous places (not that I’m taking fire in Afghanistan, mind you), so I’ll be headed back down there in a month or so.

The bad thing is that work (and therefore money) comes in waves and is highly unsteady, so I end up doing a lot of other stuff on the side. Right now, for instance, I’m getting ready to help an old professor from my undergrad days do some research on Armenian Churches–which, as of now, I know literally NOTHING about.[/quote]

Thanks for that, smh, that was interesting to read. Two things:

  1. I was just listening to a conversation on Opie and Anthony with someone (can’t remember who it was) and they were talking about how news anchors and how, well, to put it lightly, well, Anchorman could be considered to actually be straddling the line between parody and reality.

  2. You were doing field work on gang violence in Ciudad Juarez. Wow. My respect for you just went up even more. Do you have to wear MC Hammer pants where ever you go, lol?

I grew up in Laredo. Have been to Mexico I don’t know how many times. One of my favorite cities in the world, that I’ve been to three times just for fun, in Mexico City. Mexico is one of my favorite places on earth. The real Mexico, not Puerto Vallarta or Acapulco. But I can’t even go back to my hometown anymore because they are having freaking bazooka battles, on the US side of the border.

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
Can I ask what The Purge is and get a response without the post being deleted?[/quote]

The SAMA forum along with a huge swath of posters were “purged” a few months back because people were using T-Nation as a hook-up site, and T-Nation was starting to get into legal gray areas that were causing danger to them, with married people using the site to cheat on their wives and such. So the plucked out their offending eye, so to speak.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
Can I ask what The Purge is and get a response without the post being deleted?[/quote]

The SAMA forum along with a huge swath of posters were “purged” a few months back because people were using T-Nation as a hook-up site, and T-Nation was starting to get into legal gray areas that were causing danger to them, with married people using the site to cheat on their wives and such. So the plucked out their offending eye, so to speak. [/quote]

LOL…damn. Give people a ball of yarn , nails and a peanut butter sammich and they will find a way of using them to hook up hahahaaaa. That reproductive drive will not be denied.

And before I hear Tirib’s thundering hooves coming over the hill trumpeting the triumph of whoredom and collapse of the USA due to its lax moral fiber, let me say it has ALWAYS been this way, all over the world, just technology has reallt facilitated the process , as it has facilitated so many others.

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[quote]Neuromancer wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
Can I ask what The Purge is and get a response without the post being deleted?[/quote]

The SAMA forum along with a huge swath of posters were “purged” a few months back because people were using T-Nation as a hook-up site, and T-Nation was starting to get into legal gray areas that were causing danger to them, with married people using the site to cheat on their wives and such. So the plucked out their offending eye, so to speak. [/quote]

LOL…damn. Give people a ball of yarn , nails and a peanut butter sammich and they will find a way of using them to hook up hahahaaaa. That reproductive drive will not be denied.

And before I hear Tirib’s thundering hooves coming over the hill trumpeting the triumph of whoredom and collapse of the USA due to its lax moral fiber, let me say it has ALWAYS been this way, all over the world, just technology has really facilitated the process , as it has facilitated so many others.[/quote]Of course. Sin has been around since Genesis 3. Like everything else, technology is as good or evil as the hands in which it is found. You made my point beautifully. Thanks. Anybody who hasn’t should really watch the Video in Brother Chris’s thread blaming the Catholic Church for the loss of America to it’s own immorality. Absolutely brilliant.

Ya missed one thing though. This is not the urge to procreate. Because we kill the children it produces. This is pure undiluted carnality. Where sex is practiced as an end unto itself in pure hedonistic self destruction. The beautiful and precious gift of the creator God wherein a man and woman are privileged to declare the awesome love of the risen Christ for His church bride in the fully giving of themselves to one another in that same love, is transformed it into a thing of filth. That’s the very essence of sin and evil and we are paying with the life of our nation and celebrating our own judgement. Just like the bible says we will do.

I am no prude friend. Before you even try that. I LOVE sex. All kinds. It was designed to be an intoxicating intensely pleasurable experience on purpose. Our God IS love. He says so. I’ll say again. We are uniquely judged because we were uniquely blessed. We told the world when we started that we were giving Him glory for our founding and would depend on Him for our success. He will not allow His holy name to be blasphemed among the nations. He is making it clear that his favor has been removed and just like He ALWAYS has for thousands of years, He has given us over to ourselves. He declares that as His judgement time without number all through the bible. We are all witnesses to His latest example. I lift my hands and sing praise to Him for He is good all the time.

Far from being depressed. I am celebrating His wisdom and holiness because the coming oppression and eventual persecution of the visible church will act just as it also always has, as a purifying fire to burn off the modernist heretics that got us here by polluting His bride with their presence. God is in covenant with His church bride. Not the United States. He always uses pagans to do His work. It’s a sorta finger in their eye thing. They are made glorious use of even in their revelrous rebellion against His undefeatable authority. He always gets the last laugh. I’m not allowed to laugh at the judgement of others though because were it not for His predestining electing grace, I would still be one of them.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
Can I ask what The Purge is and get a response without the post being deleted?[/quote]

The SAMA forum along with a huge swath of posters were “purged” a few months back because people were using T-Nation as a hook-up site, and T-Nation was starting to get into legal gray areas that were causing danger to them, with married people using the site to cheat on their wives and such. So the plucked out their offending eye, so to speak. [/quote]

LOL…damn. Give people a ball of yarn , nails and a peanut butter sammich and they will find a way of using them to hook up hahahaaaa. That reproductive drive will not be denied.

And before I hear Tirib’s thundering hooves coming over the hill trumpeting the triumph of whoredom and collapse of the USA due to its lax moral fiber, let me say it has ALWAYS been this way, all over the world, just technology has really facilitated the process , as it has facilitated so many others.[/quote]Of course. Sin has been around since Genesis 3. Like everything else, technology is as good or evil as the hands in which it is found. You made my point beautifully. Thanks. Anybody who hasn’t should really watch the Video in Brother Chris’s thread blaming the Catholic Church for the loss of America to it’s own immorality. Absolutely brilliant.

Ya missed one thing though. This is not the urge to procreate. Because we kill the children it produces. This is pure undiluted carnality. Where sex is practiced as an end unto itself in pure hedonistic self destruction. The beautiful and precious gift of the creator God wherein a man and woman are privileged to declare the awesome love of the risen Christ for His church bride in the fully giving of themselves to one another in that same love, is transformed it into a thing of filth. That’s the very essence of sin and evil and we are paying with the life of our nation and celebrating our own judgement. Just like the bible says we will do.

I am no prude friend. Before you even try that. I LOVE sex. All kinds. It was designed to be an intoxicating intensely pleasurable experience on purpose. Our God IS love. He says so. I’ll say again. We are uniquely judged because we were uniquely blessed. We told the world when we started that we were giving Him glory for our founding and would depend on Him for our success. He will not allow His holy name to be blasphemed among the nations. He is making it clear that his favor has been removed and just like He ALWAYS has for thousands of years, He has given us over to ourselves. He declares that as His judgement time without number all through the bible. We are all witnesses to His latest example. I lift my hands and sing praise to Him for He is good all the time.

Far from being depressed. I am celebrating His wisdom and holiness because the coming oppression and eventual persecution of the visible church will act just it also always has, as a purifying fire to burn off the modernist heretics that got us here by polluting His bride with their presence. God is in covenant with His church bride. Not the United States. He always uses pagans to do His work. It’s a sorta finger in their eye thing. They are made glorious use of even in their revelrous rebellion against His undefeatable authority. He always gets the last laugh. I’m not allowed to laugh at the judgement of others though because were it not for His predestining electing grace, I would still be one of them.

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Lol…on cue, tadaaaaaaa!

Tirib, we ain’t nothing but mammals, and we do just like they do on the Discovery Channel.

I could give you a whole long post on the subject, particularly how it relates to what I’ve experienced in this regard as far as your calvinist brethren go, but it would be a waste of my time hehehe

Ps. I actually enjoy your posts and read most of them, even though you really get it going sideways at times like with Christine on another thread.

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[quote]Neuromancer wrote:<<< what I’ve experienced in this regard as far as your calvinist brethren go, but it would be a waste of my time hehehe [/quote]This would be worth hearing. Hijack Haven? Please?

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:<<< what I’ve experienced in this regard as far as your calvinist brethren go, but it would be a waste of my time hehehe [/quote]This would be worth hearing. Hijack Haven? Please?
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Ok, why not…will be out for a while but will expand on my return.

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Alright, as of the time of this post we have some green in the market. phew.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
What Christie did for himself was politically brilliant. He knew Obama was going to carry New Jersey. So he decided to politicize his ability to be bi-partisan for future use. It had zero outcome on the election, but made Christie look like a great guy. But maybe I’m cynical and jaded. [/quote]

Christie harmed Romney by elevating Obama. In any election you cannot elevate one candidate without harming the other…especially that close to an election. The storm was the left jab Christie tongue kissing Obama was the right cross.

And…because of that one move Christie will not only NEVER be considered as Presidential timber, but he won’t even be considered as running mate material.

Christie screwed himself in a very big way!

You have no idea.

But yes, if all he ever wanted to do was be Governor of New Jersey he’s fine. [/quote]

LOL more bubble-talk from the right…“WE LOST THE ELECTION CAUSE THAT FAT ASS FUCKING GOVERNOR THINKS OBAMA DID A GOOD JOB”…nope, it had nothing to do with the weak candidate you put up for election and your inability to get votes that aren’t middle-aged white men.

Is Zeb really considered to be one of the intellectual posters on this forum? Jesus christ.
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Actually, Christie did harm Romney. If you don’t think so you should try doing something that is apparently alien to you Santa. Something called R E S E A R C H!

Even David Axlerod, Obama’s number one henchman implied that the storm helped. Others on his side also said that obama could noth have bought that sort of publicity. Stallwart liberals like Chris Matthews said that he was glad the hurricane hit. I guess he didn’t care about the deaths as long as his hero was reelected.

Anyway…yeah that was a good thing for Obama.

Clear on that?

Romney had momentum going prior to the storm. The storm froze things in their tracks and for five days Romney was off the radar screen. Enter Christie butt humping Obama. Then we had the MSLM portraying obama as the savior of the storm victims as he walked the damaged areas with his fat buddy who happened to be a republican who endorsed Romney–Still with me junior? Try to keep up I know I’m going pretty fast.

Jeez…it’s crazy that anyone would have to explain this stuff to you, or to anyone.

Are you actually this dumb or just trying to be argumentative?

Must be your being argumentative as no one who can type is that dumb.

Try again Santa…I’ll wait.