Republicans have Geb Bush, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, and John Huntsman.
I predict Geb Bush.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]BrianHanson wrote:
Hmm.
He won the electoral college vote.
He won the popular vote.
I guess that the American people are a bit brighter as a whole than the sample I see on T-Nation.
Well done America.
The GOP either has to change their rhetoric or accept that they will never have a President elected again. Look at the demographic breakdown of this country, a lower % of white voters every 4 years, fewer states with significant white voter majorities, the numbers say it all, if the GOP wants to remain relevant they need to address the growing #'s of non-traditional GOP voters out there (hint: no more talk of walls or self-deportation, no more fat talk show hosts joking about “Gubamint Cheese” or calling women “Prostitutes” because they want contraception covered in their health insurance, no more idiotic comments about rape and the female body.).
However the GOP has made a concerted effort to narrow their base throughout the primary season (hoping that nobody would notice on election day) and it has, once again, bitten them on the ass. As bad as things are in the US today, it is pretty telling that more people chose Obama than Romney, Oh well.[/quote]
Here’s another one, with just as little class as FI. He’s gone for months and then drops in just to jiggle his sexy parts in our faces and gloat.
What do you want, someone to rub your belly and scratch you behind the ears? [/quote]
Cortes,
I was busy with PT and then football coaching until last week, but feel free to rub away. If you are unable or unwilling to see the bigger problem with the current state of the GOP you have bigger issues ahead. You ran against a very beatable man (Obama), yet your party cannibalized any potentially victorious candidates before the primary season really even started. If the electorate is moving more to the center and the GOP keeps going further right you are at least as responsible for the election results as the people who vote for Obama, you give moderates (of which I am clearly not one) no choice but to vote Democratic. Huntsman 2016 is a safe bet.
[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
I predict Geb Bush.[/quote]
That would be ultra fail. In this very thread we have people still blaming Bush. This will only get worse as obama-nomics continue.
Bush 43 ruined the name in national politics.
For all of you non-Californians here, I want to congratulate you…
The Dems here passed the largest tax increase in US History, and as the rich, business owners, corporations, and industries now pack up and flee to more tax friendly states like yours, I surely hope you enjoy all of our jobs.
Oh I know what you’re all thinking… how bad can it be (or good can it be FOR YOU ALL) ?
Within a 3 month period ALONE, we lost $2.5 BILLION in revenue, while spending $2.4 BILLION more than budgeted.
That’s for 3 months only, wanna guess how that pans out for a 12-month period ? Our useless governor guessed the deficit to be $9 Billion, it turned out to be $17 Billion.
Opah !
If you want to see a perfect example of how this board effects perception, look at how many people deluded themselves into believing Romney had a good chance of winning the election.
Yes but he will market himself as his father’s son not as the brother of George W. Bush. I think he will feel the need to run as his father’s health continues to decline. He comes across as the favoured son.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
And for any of you drive-by superheroes who may feel I’m just being bitter, an quick read through the threads will reveal that I and, as far as I know all of the PWI regulars have remained very civil and even friendly to each other, even when we occupy completely different quadrants of the political grid.
I have no respect for anyone who comes here with their chin in the air, gloating at members who’ve spent literally thousands of posts engaged in actual arguments and managed to maintain more poise and civility over half a years worth of discussion than you could muster in a single drunken paragraph.
Go back to GAL or whatever crevice it was you scuttered out of. [/quote]
No one has been nasty here. As far as I’ve seen, the democrats/victorious side has been civil – well apart from FI, who mostly posts in the Combat forum. But I can understand, he’s a fucking happy man right now, so what’s the prob with that? For months you guys had been criticizing/demonizing President Obama, and we let you. How much harm can silly posts of elation and/or criticism from the victor side cause you? Just chill 
I understand you’re upset right now but damn, take it easy. You sound rather elitist. Just because some of us, post drivel in GAL, it doesn’t mean we are not as intellectually knowledgeable as you are and we shouldn’t participate in this thread. So far most of the hardcore republicans in this thread have been classy in their congratulations.
And this is after all the ‘‘Obama Victory Thread’’, if people want to come scream their joy, let them be.
Fighting Irish,
If Christie lubricated Obama and the Dems any more than he did, he might have slid right off the stage in Chicago for his acceptance speech.
You could almost hear them both thanking each other when they hugged…
“Well done Mr. President…”
“Thank you Chris, now if you can just lose some weight, I might let you talk to the BOSS on the phone…”
[quote]therajraj wrote:
If you want to see a perfect example of how this board effects perception, look at how many people deluded themselves into believing Romney had a good chance of winning the election. [/quote]
Based on the available information, there was a good reason to believe Romney had a good chance of winning. There were a number of public Democrats in the media predicting a Romney win.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
If you want to see a perfect example of how this board effects perception, look at how many people deluded themselves into believing Romney had a good chance of winning the election. [/quote]
Based on the available information, there was a good reason to believe Romney had a good chance of winning. There were a number of public Democrats in the media predicting a Romney win. [/quote]
I get the feeling that some of the polling was based on Nov 2010 turnout, for both sides. Where the GOP cleaned house, but Dems didn’t show up.
I can’t think of any other explanation for such perplexing turnout.
S&P down %2.5 and falling. The selloff started last night, but the bulk of it has occurred since NY opened this AM. If funds had merely wanted to hedge against a market that they believed would be down in the short term, they would’ve been selling futures overnight. The fact they waited until NY opened means they’re looking for liquidity because they’re getting out of the individual equities.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
- I don’t believe Paul Ryan to be electable in a national vote. He is too teabagger-ish, too anti-government, and will polarize voters so much that you will see the same break among the same groups towards a Democratic candidate.
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I second this. He is unelectable. Romney won me over to the extent that I decided not to vote for Obama in this election. I could vote for Jeb Bush, I could vote for Rubio or Christie or Portman if he were more interesting than a bag of grain. I wanted Huntsman to win the primary and I’d have voted for him enthusiastically if he had. If I had been of age (and with no foreknowledge of the consequences) I’d probably have voted for Bush in 2000.
I will never vote for Paul Ryan, and I’ll volunteer to help anyone who runs against him.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
Republicans have Geb Bush, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, and John Huntsman.
I predict Geb Bush.[/quote]
Two things here -
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I don’t believe Paul Ryan to be electable in a national vote. He is too teabagger-ish, too anti-government, and will polarize voters so much that you will see the same break among the same groups towards a Democratic candidate.
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Chris Christie - I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, be careful what you wish for. Christie is a moderate who is well liked by NJ Democrats, including me. If you’re looking for a party-standard bearer, this isn’t your guy. Not at all. Plus, having watched him closely over the past four years because I am part of the NJ media, I can tell you that now, I wonder about his presidential aspirations. I think he truly loves our state, and doesn’t particularly want to leave
Disclosure - I’ve been a fan of Christie for a long time, after Hurricane Sandy and watching his response to the devastation that my poor state has been subject to, I’m now a HUGE fan.[/quote]
Agree with everything you’ve said, outside of “teabagger”.
Christie will be left to NJ by the right. His only shot now nationally is to switch parties.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I have been hearing that we are careening off the “fiscal cliff” for the last four years. And every year, things have gotten better, slowly but surely.
We will see.[/quote]
That’s because the fiscal cliff was always down the road, and the can might get kicked again to spare us all short-term pain. But the math says we are headed for big pain if we don’t do something, and business are preparing accordingly (i.e., hoarding cash, etc.).
That is fine, I don’t think it would be completely repealed - what I do know is that mathematically, it is unsustainable, and no amount of wishful thinking by liberals can change that fact, which will be exacerbated by the retirement of Baby Boomers.
Defense spending will be touched, for sure, but defense spending doesn’t have the problem of unrestrained growth due to demographics, and entitlements do. In other words, wars may come and go, we may get serious about reducing our military footprint, and so forth - but basic demographics will not be variable up and down - they will always require an upward trajectory of expanding and spending - and without massive reform (and massive cuts), entitlement spending on autopilot will march us over into the abyss, political persuasion having nothing to do with it.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Maybe he can call his buddy Sarbanes up and come up with some regulation, it’s never too late
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I’ll be honest, shit like this is great for me.
Sucks for the rest of you, but great for me.[/quote]
It’d be great for me if the job market were better.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
S&P down %2.5 and falling. The selloff started last night, but the bulk of it has occurred since NY opened this AM. If funds had merely wanted to hedge against a market that they believed would be down in the short term, they would’ve been selling futures overnight. The fact they waited until NY opened means they’re looking for liquidity because they’re getting out of the individual equities.[/quote]
please America don’t panic, not this early.
Someone mentioned the Koch brothers before… They are one of the dozen or so indivduals that could cause the worst market melt down in history if they wanted, on pretty much any day of the year. Particularly after last night.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
The problem with him - at least for the national party - is that they’re probably not going to be able to bully him into saying things he doesn’t believe in order to win the super conservative vote that the Republicans name as their base.
He will appeal to a shitload of people in the middle, but winning a Republican primary will be his downfall. Just my opinion.[/quote]
Agree again. And that was before the right saw him as washing Obama’s balls last week.
Now I don’t think that changed the race, the hurricane itself maybe, but not Christie. But in any event, he is dead to those that matter on the right.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
And for any of you drive-by superheroes who may feel I’m just being bitter, an quick read through the threads will reveal that I and, as far as I know all of the PWI regulars have remained very civil and even friendly to each other, even when we occupy completely different quadrants of the political grid.
I have no respect for anyone who comes here with their chin in the air, gloating at members who’ve spent literally thousands of posts engaged in actual arguments and managed to maintain more poise and civility over half a years worth of discussion than you could muster in a single drunken paragraph.
Go back to GAL or whatever crevice it was you scuttered out of. [/quote]
Awwwwwwww
He so mad. Wook at wittle corty awwww
So adorbs
I pick him up now
Up uppy up uppy
YAY
I want to see how much longer the GOP bullhit continues, shit like the birther thing, the “rape is God’s will”, and all the other stupid ass dumb shit that made them look pathetic and give them the ass whoopin’ they got.
Step 1 should be booting these crazies out of the party immediately, because that is a sinking ship.
All the QE3 gains, wiped out in a couple hours… lol
Still plenty of time for a rebound though.