@Jewbacca:
Why don’t they quit this dribbling settlement deal and just take the rest of the land already? Hamas (and not just them) does indeed wish for the demise of the Jewish nation and the extermination of the Jewish people. Nothing, absolutely nothing will change that, but Israel could gain some more international support if she handled some things differently. I would say more wisely.
I’m asking honestly.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Boy does this tell us where this guy’s head’s at
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/19/obamas-mideast-speech-offers-punishment-praise/[/quote]
Obama is repeating Chamberlain’s mistake regarding the Sudenland and Hitler.
Recall Hitler brought up phony land claims, muddied the situation long enough, incited violence among the ethic Germans and then Chamberlain got “peace in his time” by giving the land to Gemany.
It’s the same nonsense here: this is not about land – the arab claims to JUDEA and SUMERIA are weak both historically and recently – the arabs only having obtained the land by killing the Jewish occupants priot/during WWII and, 20 years later, the Israelis getting (most) of their land back in 1967. (Leaving the “Jewish Quarter” of East Jersualem in the hands of the arabs, to give you an idea of how absurd the arab claim is.)
Anyway, the agenda of the arabs is not land, not peace, it’s GENOCIDE.
The leader of Hamas said that today, that their goal of “ridding the world of Jewish vermin” was “one step closer today.”
It’s basic Jewish Genocide 101, and Haman, er, Obama, has taken the side of the killers.[/quote]
I was hoping you would chime in, JB.
I don’t agree with the first line you wrote ONLY. (Unless almost every U.S. President has done the same since 1948. If that is the case; then I’ll certainly accept that Obama is making the same mistake).
I absolutely agree with everything else you wrote. (except the “accidental” comparing of Obama to Hamas).
Mufasa
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Fatah and Hamas are officially recognized by the U.S. as terrorist Groups.
The President has criticized them both publicly, and on more than one occasion.
So I don’t see your point.
Mufasa[/quote]
Yes, Obama critizes, but, WHAT HE DOES is give billions of aid to genocidal killers who celebrate 9/11 in the steet.[/quote]
Was this some significant change in U.S. policy brought about by our current President?
Mufasa
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
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I have been, and always will be, a strong supporter of the State of Israel.
Mufasa
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
Well Israel needs to do one of two things. Either give the land up, or completely over take it and make it just plain Israel. It’s this noncommittal semi occupation that’s killing the situation. Give it up or take it over. I actually support either.[/quote]
Give it up to whom?[/quote]
Anybody…who cares? All of Israels neighbors hate them anyway.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[I absolutely agree with everything else you wrote. (except the “accidental” comparing of Obama to Hamas
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Thank you.
I was actually comparing Obama to Haman, as in Haman the Agagite.
I am not sure if I have the English word: ×?×?×? ×?×?×?×?×?
The peace negotiation is theater. In the Arab world, the leadership is mostly one set of nut-cases after another. I HOPE there’s CHANGE in 2012
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[I absolutely agree with everything else you wrote. (except the “accidental” comparing of Obama to Hamas
[/quote]
Thank you.
I was actually comparing Obama to Haman, as in Haman the Agagite.
I am not sure if I have the English word: Ã??Ã??Ã?? Ã??Ã??Ã??Ã??Ã??
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Ah! My mistake!
Mufasa
[quote]pat wrote:
Well Israel needs to do one of two things. Either give the land up, or completely over take it and make it just plain Israel. It’s this noncommittal semi occupation that’s killing the situation. Give it up or take it over. I actually support either.[/quote]
Son, It’s not that simple, This is war.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Anyway, the agenda of the arabs is not land, not peace, it’s GENOCIDE.
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You are wrong! It’s all about the land, It’s about the Aqsa.
[quote]optheta wrote:
This whole israel/palistine conflict is one part of politics/Foreign Affairs I never understood. Does anybody know any good places I can read up on this? I never understand why U.S. supporting Israel or not supporting it is such a big deal.[/quote]
Try to read about the “Illuminati” and you will get the whole picture, it’s about a new world order from Israel to Iraq. That explains why the media is brainwashing the world to hate Arabs, so when Arabs get killed in Palestine or Iraq people won’t sympathize with them. because they are terrorists they deserve to die.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
Well Israel needs to do one of two things. Either give the land up, or completely over take it and make it just plain Israel. It’s this noncommittal semi occupation that’s killing the situation. Give it up or take it over. I actually support either.[/quote]
Give it up to whom?[/quote]
Anybody…who cares? All of Israels neighbors hate them anyway.[/quote]
No one wants it…
[quote]hwh89 wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Anyway, the agenda of the arabs is not land, not peace, it’s GENOCIDE.
[/quote]
You are wrong! It’s all about the land, It’s about the Aqsa. [/quote]
LOL. You mean the farthest mosque that Mohammed flew to on his winged horse?
Even though the asqa was built 4 years after Mohammed died?
And the story that the Asqa was “the farthest mosque” was created mid-1970s by Yasser Arafat for lazy Western Journalist?
And the new designation of the asqa being the “farthest mosque” being laughed at as an inside joke by all serious islamic scholars, in no small part because Jerusalem is not mentioned one single time in the koran?
[quote]hwh89 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
This whole israel/palistine conflict is one part of politics/Foreign Affairs I never understood. Does anybody know any good places I can read up on this? I never understand why U.S. supporting Israel or not supporting it is such a big deal.[/quote]
Try to read about the “Illuminati” and you will get the whole picture, it’s about a new world order from Israel to Iraq. That explains why the media is brainwashing the world to hate Arabs, so when Arabs get killed in Palestine or Iraq people won’t sympathize with them. because they are terrorists they deserve to die. [/quote]
Yeah, it’s tricky how they got those arabs to shoot a school bus with an anti-tank missle.
And got that arab to slice the neck of that two year old girl and her family.
Damn mind-controlling freemasons.
Look at recent quotes
Regarding the killing of Bin Laden it was:
-I authorized
-I ordered
Regarding Israel and Palestine 1967 borders: (Borders that were breached by Arabs and expanded by Israel):
America Believes, We think, America will…which translates to “America is not on the side if Israel”.
It just gets to be an easier “I told you so” when Obama comes up in any discussion.
And for the Jewish people in America…I think this will not change their views. They have lost all identity, soul and support for Israel from what I see locally…save Jewbacca.
Why the fuck are we getting involved
[quote]John S. wrote:
Why the fuck are we getting involved[/quote]
I’d be all for you not getting involved, the $3B in co-developed weapons aid (really a subsidy to US Arms manufacturers— not that I mind) to Israel is appreciated.
But, unfortunately, Obama gives something like 4 times that ($12B) to the Muslim Brotherhood, Fatah and other crazies that surround us. He’s even training and equiping the PA army.
The problem I have with US isolationism (Ron Paul, in particular) is he is HAPPY to help arab countries, but suddenly “non-interventionalist” when it comes to helping Israel. Transparent as hell, even without his checkered history.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]hwh89 wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Anyway, the agenda of the arabs is not land, not peace, it’s GENOCIDE.
[/quote]
You are wrong! It’s all about the land, It’s about the Aqsa. [/quote]
LOL. You mean the farthest mosque that Mohammed flew to on his winged horse?
Even though the asqa was built 4 years after Mohammed died?
And the story that the Asqa was “the farthest mosque” was created mid-1970s by Yasser Arafat for lazy Western Journalist?
And the new designation of the asqa being the “farthest mosque” being laughed at as an inside joke by all serious islamic scholars, in no small part because Jerusalem is not mentioned one single time in the koran?[/quote]
I’m not surprised that you say such things, they feed you lies in schools and they brainwash you. try to open your mind, you wont regret it!
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]hwh89 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
This whole israel/palistine conflict is one part of politics/Foreign Affairs I never understood. Does anybody know any good places I can read up on this? I never understand why U.S. supporting Israel or not supporting it is such a big deal.[/quote]
Try to read about the “Illuminati” and you will get the whole picture, it’s about a new world order from Israel to Iraq. That explains why the media is brainwashing the world to hate Arabs, so when Arabs get killed in Palestine or Iraq people won’t sympathize with them. because they are terrorists they deserve to die. [/quote]
Yeah, it’s tricky how they got those arabs to shoot a school bus with an anti-tank missle.
And got that arab to slice the neck of that two year old girl and her family.
Damn mind-controlling freemasons.[/quote]
Well, a true Muslim wont kill a girl or an unarmed man. I’m against these things and who ever did this is also my enemy. just to clear things for you, i dont hate jews i have a lot of jew friends in Nablus(I’m from Gaza btw).
[quote]hwh89 wrote:
Well, a true Muslim wont kill a girl or an unarmed man. I’m against these things and who ever did this is also my enemy.
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Is that why you sport a Hamas flag on your profile?