Did the left not want to use tax payer money to fund abortions? It looks like they do want to kill people with tax money, but instead of killing terrorists that want to kill us, they want to kill a helpless baby.[/quote]
I always found irony in the fact that the left never had a problem with killing the unborn but many would protest when some scum back rapist murderer was about to get the electric chair. They really are a twisted bunch.
But then again I don’t get a lot of things the left thinks makes sense - I call it liberal logic.
-Raising taxes and giving the money to those who don’t work?
-Killing the unborn?
-Taking guns from law abiding citizens? You know all of us average Americans cling to our guns and our bibles, or so Obama says.
-Bigger government that takes more rights away from you with every new program?
From the bottom of my heart I do not understand how any thinking human being would possible want to live this way. Does anyone really think any of these things are what made this country the most powerful richest country in the history of the world? If so think again!
Did the left not want to use tax payer money to fund abortions? It looks like they do want to kill people with tax money, but instead of killing terrorists that want to kill us, they want to kill a helpless baby.[/quote]
I always found irony in the fact that the left never had a problem with killing the unborn but many would protest when some scum back rapist murderer was about to get the electric chair. They really are a twisted bunch.
But then again I don’t get a lot of things the left thinks makes sense - I call it liberal logic.
-Raising taxes and giving the money to those who don’t work?
-Killing the unborn?
-Taking guns from law abiding citizens? You know all of us average Americans cling to our guns and our bibles, or so Obama says.
-Bigger government that takes more rights away from you with every new program?
From the bottom of my heart I do not understand how any thinking human being would possible want to live this way. Does anyone really think any of these things are what made this country the most powerful richest country in the history of the world? If so think again!
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I - really - don’t want to get dragged into a clusterfuck of an abortion thread. All I’m going to say is that if you banned abortion, abortions would still take place but they would be backstreet and they would be riskier and women would die. That’s the reality of it.
In addition I would have much more sympathy for supporters of banning abortion if they advocated welfare but at the moment what you’re saying is the women must carry the child (even in rape or incest as some Tea Party people are saying) and then gets no support. Nice
As for ‘bowing’ I don’t know what would constitute a ‘strong’ American persident someone who shits on Merkel’s face and gives a white flag to Sarkozy as a gift I suppose but over here in commie Europe Obama is just another US president upholding US political military corporate and financial interests. People don’t laugh about the US anymore like they did when Bush was in power; they dislike, but respect Obama from my experience. And you have to hold the Saudi prince’s hand because they have your country by the bollocks. We have to do the same with Russia. Not pleasant at all but necessary
[quote]Bambi wrote:
All I’m going to say is that if you banned abortion, abortions would still take place but they would be backstreet and they would be riskier and women would die. That’s the reality of it.[/quote]
Murder, rape, armed robbery all illegal yet they still take place. You have no argument with that one. Currently abortion is used as birth control for over 90% of all abortions. The scant few that would take place on the street somewhere is a tiny price to pay for the millions of unborn who are ruthlessly killed for no reason other than convenience!
Advocating personal responsibility is a hard pill to swallow in a day and age where many actually expect government to pay their bills, feed them and of course pick up the entire cost of health care. And who is paying for this? Those who are working each day to support their own families. I think the American voter told the world what they thought about Obama and this line of thinking on Tuesday.
Let me clue you in on something very important, most of us don’t care what europeans think of us. If it were not for the US there would be no Europe, it would now be called Nazi Germany. So save the “we now respect you because of Obama” speech because no one really cares what you think because we elected a lefty.
Let me clue you in on something very important, most of us don’t care what europeans think of us. If it were not for the US there would be no Europe, it would now be called Nazi Germany. So save the “we now respect you because of Obama” speech because no one really cares what you think because we elected a lefty.
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Well, if it werent for you, there would not have been a Nazi Germany so maybe listening before acting would be a nice change after 100 years or so.
Let me clue you in on something very important, most of us don’t care what europeans think of us. If it were not for the US there would be no Europe, it would now be called Nazi Germany. So save the “we now respect you because of Obama” speech because no one really cares what you think because we elected a lefty.
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Well, if it werent for you, there would not have been a Nazi Germany so maybe listening before acting would be a nice change after 100 years or so.
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I’m sorry Orion I really don’t understand what you are referencing. If you know something that I don’t (okay shall I rephrase that lol) please let me know what it is.
Let me clue you in on something very important, most of us don’t care what europeans think of us. If it were not for the US there would be no Europe, it would now be called Nazi Germany. So save the “we now respect you because of Obama” speech because no one really cares what you think because we elected a lefty.
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Well, if it werent for you, there would not have been a Nazi Germany so maybe listening before acting would be a nice change after 100 years or so.
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I’m sorry Orion I really don’t understand what you are referencing. If you know something that I don’t (okay shall I rephrase that lol) please let me know what it is.
Thank you my friend,
Zeb
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i think he is referring to how the major progressives of the 1920’s and 1930’s in America helped out the Nazi Party. You know groups like planned parenthood, the Rockefeller’s, the Kennedy’s, etc
Please provide a statistic that 90% of all abortions are for birth control in the USA. I would quite like to see this.
As for my view I believe the current UK government rule that abortions should be allowed up to 24 weeks then only if there is severe risk to the mother or the child will have no quality of life (i.e. will die very soon after being born) is the way forward
As for your views on welfare, well surprisingly I mostly agree with you. The bits I disagree with, well that’s another thread.
And the fact that you don’t care about what Europeans think. Well that’s very nice. I would like to say I don’t care what America thinks about Scotland and Europe in general but when America meddles in Europe’s foreign and trading policy to the extent that it does, I would say Americans care about Europe a very great deal.
Rockscar,
So the fact that they’re a minority means they don’t count/ are not important? I hate to jump to conclusions but that’s the impression I get from your post. Could you elaborate a bit more (I know it’s a pithy one liner but still). That’s a very interesting line of thought to take
So the fact that they’re a minority means they don’t count/ are not important? I hate to jump to conclusions but that’s the impression I get from your post. Could you elaborate a bit more (I know it’s a pithy one liner but still). That’s a very interesting line of thought to take[/quote]
You associate a thing (No Abortions even with rape) completely to the Tea Party…because of what a few said. With that analogy I can say that the Democrats are racist as evident by Johns posted video of the Black Democrat slurs of racial pontification against the white Reps.
I also find it amazing that in two years time a new party gets elected in a few states, and lost a few. I never thought that could happen so fast. I thought it would take years.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Obama still has a bunch of stuff he vowed to fix[/quote]
Really? You’re playing this card? As if he was supposed to wave his negro-muslim-kenyan-pixie wand and have everything done at once?
Right.[/quote]
You are right in the sense that these things take time, I didn’t choose my words correctly. However, Obama wanted health care done in the spring of 2009. He got it done in the summer of 2010 for a number of reasons. There was pretty much a year of health care this, health care that on the news. If he executed the health care plan properly, it could have been done a lot sooner, and he could have focused on these other issues.[/quote]
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Remind me again which elected dems opposed the war. Remind me again which elected republicans voted against welfare spending.
There is no difference between thieves as far as I am concerned.
My money is my money and none of those sleazy, Washingtonian whores has a right to take it from me.
IF you are calling the Tea Party a “New” Party…I’ll have to disagree with you on this one…because it would have to be in name only.
At best it has functioned as a “Wing” or “Caucus” of the Republican Party (whom, by the way, executed this election with absolute brilliance).
Rand Paul has already suggested as much. (Forming an official “caucus” to keep the “Republican Establishment” in check.
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No no no…I was merely surprised that it really did make the entire difference this election and looks like it will only grow and capture Independents in the process. Libertarians will probably start leaning R the more the caucus grows and does check.
Please provide a statistic that 90% of all abortions are for birth control in the USA. I would quite like to see this.
As for my view I believe the current UK government rule that abortions should be allowed up to 24 weeks then only if there is severe risk to the mother or the child will have no quality of life (i.e. will die very soon after being born) is the way forward[/quote]
It’s the way forward if you don’t care that a helpless little baby torn from the womb of its mother feels any pain. Nice huh?
About 1% of all abortions are for rape or incest. That leaves 99% for some other reason. Now what do you think that reason is? Could it be that the woman didn’t follow proper birth control
procedures?
Here are some stats for you, you do the math:
40% of all unintended pregnancies end in abortion
66% of all abortions are from women who have never been married
A woman has a right to say no to sex or to use a contraceptive device. But there is always that fall back positon just in case something goes wrong - ABORTION. It would be against human nature to believe that people don’t think that way and the facts bare that out.
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And the fact that you don’t care about what Europeans think. Well that’s very nice. I would like to say I don’t care what America thinks about Scotland and Europe in general but when America meddles in Europe’s foreign and trading policy to the extent that it does, I would say Americans care about Europe a very great deal.[/quote]
No you’ve misunderstood. What I mean is most of us don’t care what Europeans think about us based on our politics. It’s our country and we will choose who leads it, you can like it you can hate it - WE DON’T CARE.
My money is my money and none of those sleazy, Washingtonian whores has a right to take it from me.[/quote]
This could not be said any better. People don’t understand that these are not people who are honestly interested in improving the country and fixing shit. Many stuff their pockets, and offer their allegiance to the highest bidder.
All you American taxpayers, just SHUT THE FUCK UP, work, and pay your taxes. That is what they want. Don’t whine, don’t complain (or you are a racist xenophobe.) Just shut up and contribute with your taxes to the spending beast or the black hole.
This could not be said any better. People don’t understand that these are not people who are honestly interested in improving the country and fixing shit. Many stuff their pockets, and offer their allegiance to the highest bidder.
All you American taxpayers, just SHUT THE FUCK UP, work, and pay your taxes. That is what they want. Don’t whine, don’t complain (or you are a racist xenophobe.) Just shut up and contribute with your taxes to the spending beast or the black hole. [/quote]
Max:
If you are saying that this is true for both the GOP AND Dems…then I’m with you.
I have to say that Obama has gotten a lot done despite all the bickering between parties. He entered the Oval Office in “emergency mode”. Gov’t had to solve several huge problems at the same time. That is not the time to reform the system. Work within the system to stop the bleeding, get the country moving again, THEN start reforming the system. I think they were so concerned with fixing the problems at that time, they didn’t really care how they got it done.
Is that bad? Depends. If he’d prevaricated about anything, would the economy have gotten worse or better? Would the DOW have plummeted even farther? Would unemployment be 15%? He needed to act, and act NOW. I think (hope) that now that things are stabilizing that he and gov’t can concentrate on governing instead of emergency clean up.
This could not be said any better. People don’t understand that these are not people who are honestly interested in improving the country and fixing shit. Many stuff their pockets, and offer their allegiance to the highest bidder.
All you American taxpayers, just SHUT THE FUCK UP, work, and pay your taxes. That is what they want. Don’t whine, don’t complain (or you are a racist xenophobe.) Just shut up and contribute with your taxes to the spending beast or the black hole. [/quote]
Max:
If you are saying that this is true for both the GOP AND Dems…then I’m with you.
Mufasa
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And if you can’t see a difference in the two parties then you are blind.
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I have to say that Obama has gotten a lot done despite all the bickering between parties. He entered the Oval Office in “emergency mode”. Gov’t had to solve several huge problems at the same time. That is not the time to reform the system. Work within the system to stop the bleeding, get the country moving again, THEN start reforming the system. I think they were so concerned with fixing the problems at that time, they didn’t really care how they got it done.
Is that bad? Depends. If he’d prevaricated about anything, would the economy have gotten worse or better? Would the DOW have plummeted even farther? Would unemployment be 15%? He needed to act, and act NOW. I think (hope) that now that things are stabilizing that he and gov’t can concentrate on governing instead of emergency clean up. [/quote]
What you said is exactly the line every Republican would be toeing if Bush walked into the same mess that Obama did. bbbbut…but wait he had all of this to clean up and hasn’t even had a chance to start governing. Of course no self-respecting message board poster will admit this or any alluding to the fact that the same song would be sung regardless because of course THEIR party (whichever tea, repub, dem) is the only one that is right.
