[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]cueball wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
I want to say that I’m pro-nursing, however, I’m pro-make-your-own-choices long before that. It’s nobody’s business - not a nurse, not a doctor, not the government - to make that decision for parents. It really irks me that these mothers that have just given birth have to sit there and be made feel terrible and lectured for their supposedly horrible choices.
My problem with it, Jehovasfitness, is that it would be MY choice as a parent to choose what method to feed my child that I deem fit. Formula is available for OTC sales and I do not feel that I should have restricted access to it. You know how shit hits the fan when they try to make supplements less available or take them away from the general public. In principal, I don’t think this is any different. It’s really deplorable that this has even been considered.[/quote]
Again, it would still be available, just not offered for “free” when you know free samples aren’t there out of the kindness of a business’ heart.
That said, hence my screenname, why would someone knowingly feed their kid formula if A. the mother is able to breastfeed B. and has the “time” (I use that term loosely) to do so
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This explains my sentiments a bit.[/quote]
[quote]And now, the man you trusted to guard your pseudo-freedom in New York City has decided to dictate to new mothers how they will feed their own babies. Starting September 3, Mayor Bloomberg will enforce what is being called �?�¢??the most restrictive pro-breast-milk program in the nation�?�¢?? which requires formula to be locked up and rationed out only if medical professionals can submit a medical reason for needing it. If the mother gets the formula from the state, she also gets a lecture. Why? It seems the people in power don�?�¢??t really think women can make good choices for themselves or their children, especially the women who give birth.
Sure some of you will support this anti-choice program and justify it based on some feigned concern for the health of newborn babies. Some of you will speak out against it because you see it for the over-imposition of government into private lives that it is. However, I predict that not a single one of you will see the monumental contradiction before you once again.
Like happy and willing slaves, you conceded all your rights to the decisions of the people in power, and now they are dictating that those in charge do what you�?�¢??ve been fighting against your whole lives �?�¢?? force a woman to let her child use her body. You may justify it as some caring act on the part of the government, but that�?�¢??s nonsense. Governments don�?�¢??t care for people; people care for people, and you�?�¢??ve been advocating for generations that the most extreme bond between the have�?�¢??s and the have not�?�¢??s �?�¢?? the bond between mothers and their children �?�¢?? is meaningless unless the individual mother chooses to care for the greedy little thing.
Some people are calling your Mayor Bloomberg a nanny for turning NYC into a nanny-state, but at least nannies care for individual children. I hate to break it to you, Pro-Choice NYer, but you aren�?�¢??t a child and Mayor Bloomberg and his officials don�?�¢??t care for you (or the children you decide are worthy of life) individually. This isn�?�¢??t about caring; it�?�¢??s about control. It�?�¢??s Marxism.
This is social materialism, utilitarian ideology about the worth of a human person in the big chemical equation of society. Feeding people taxes the system, just as pregnancy taxes a woman�?�¢??s body. If it were about caring for the babies, there wouldn�?�¢??t also exist a law that allowed late-term abortion past the point of viability. There wouldn�?�¢??t be a law allowing any unborn child to be killed. The same child the state says must be breastfed for it�?�¢??s health could have been killed the trimester, the month, the week, the day, and the minute before birth with impunity. Wake up! The same people are also busy telling you what you can and cannot eat or drink. They don�?�¢??t really think you can be trusted to chose wisely for yourself; they see you as objects to be managed.[/quote][/quote]
Can you show me somewhere, in the press release or otherwise, where it says women will forced to breastfeed against their will? As I’ve posted before, I can find no such wording that even suggests that. All it says is that breastfeeding babies will not be SUPPLEMENTED with formula.
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Please show me where I or anything I posted says that someone is going to force someone to do something against their will?
It says a lot more than, “breastfeeding babies will not be SUPPLEMENTED with formula.”[/quote]
So you decided to partially quote the article you previously linked to, then asked me to show where is says anything about force, when the first line in your quote says just as much. “Dictate” being the operative word here. You know good and well what that line suggests. Don’t play dumb. By posting that article, and then saying it explains your sentiments, well you see where that’s going.
So, I did what you asked, even though you had already done it yourself. Good job. Again there is nothing in the official press release about forcing, dictating, or otherwise, women to do something they don’t want to do. Unless you like to point it out, like I asked previously.