NY Thug Versus Arizona Trucker

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:
you went off the deep end dude. There’s no point in even having a discussion if you keep going full tard like you just did in that first paragraph of yours.
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In all seriousness though he didn’t go off the deep end any farther than you did. Maybe there is a language barrier at work here, I dunno. You went from shooting someone because they assaulted you to shooting someone because they asked you a question. You went full tard first, and DD was trying to show you your error by doing the same thing. I think it went over your head though.[/quote]

It didn’t go over my head, I just think he pulled a metaphorical gun on me after I took a metaphorical swing at him. I got out of line but he overreacted.

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You do realize you you equated pulling a gun on someone violently attacking you to knee capping a guy for asking a question, right?

And it wasn’t an over reaction it was facetious.[/quote]

You can’t argue with the ingrained ideology of stupidity in Europe these days. That is why our ancestors got the fuck out. I hope the next few generations in Europe get used to speaking Russian or Chinese…[/quote]

What aspects of European culture do you see as ingrained stupidity?

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
You will starve in France, those fuckers will serve you a piece of meat which will have you thinking…where is the rest of it ?

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The only place in Europe that I enjoyed the food was Italy.[/quote]

Probably because it’s the only one you’re familiar with. Most Mediterranean countries’ cuisine is leagues above what you’re used to, and it varies from region to region in each country.
About the starving - I usually prefer local places as opposed to fancy ones so I can’t say I ever had that problem in France.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
You will starve in France, those fuckers will serve you a piece of meat which will have you thinking…where is the rest of it ?

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It was probably on my plate.

That’s one of my top 3 steaks… cooked in France… in an American restaurant :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
You will starve in France, those fuckers will serve you a piece of meat which will have you thinking…where is the rest of it ?

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The only place in Europe that I enjoyed the food was Italy.[/quote]

Probably because it’s the only one you’re familiar with. Most Mediterranean countries’ cuisine is leagues above what you’re used to, and it varies from region to region in each country.
About the starving - I usually prefer local places as opposed to fancy ones so I can’t say I ever had that problem in France. [/quote]

All of my brothers and father were in the Navy and did the obligatory Mediterranean cruises. They loved it. The tourist type places were so-so, but farther in things were great- food, people, etc.
My one brother had a mountain bike on board and would hit the road as soon as they got to shore. He never had the typical complaints that people have about any of the countries he visited.

If I ever have the chance, a trip through Italy and France to hunt truffles would be like the ultimate vacation.

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It shouldn’t come as a surprise that the food in Europe, generally speaking, would be better on the whole than America food. (Individual exceptions apply obviously)

Food is largely cultural and regional dependent, and given the cultures in Europe are significantly older then American culture, that the food was more refined and evolved further isn’t really all that surprising.

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[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:
you went off the deep end dude. There’s no point in even having a discussion if you keep going full tard like you just did in that first paragraph of yours.
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In all seriousness though he didn’t go off the deep end any farther than you did. Maybe there is a language barrier at work here, I dunno. You went from shooting someone because they assaulted you to shooting someone because they asked you a question. You went full tard first, and DD was trying to show you your error by doing the same thing. I think it went over your head though.[/quote]

It didn’t go over my head, I just think he pulled a metaphorical gun on me after I took a metaphorical swing at him. I got out of line but he overreacted.

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You do realize you you equated pulling a gun on someone violently attacking you to knee capping a guy for asking a question, right?

And it wasn’t an over reaction it was facetious.[/quote]

You can’t argue with the ingrained ideology of stupidity in Europe these days. That is why our ancestors got the fuck out. I hope the next few generations in Europe get used to speaking Russian or Chinese…[/quote]

I find it ironic that you speak of stupidity after quoting his post.
Did it ever crossed your mind that your ancestors (the baubers) got pushed out because they couldn’t cut it there?

Listen man you should learn how to manage situations without a gun, just in case you ever leave the farm. What if you wanna take the missus to Paris or something and someone pushes you in the subway? You gonna slaughter all them frenchies?
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Couldn’t cut it? So, we came here and became the most dominant and powerful country in the world and saved Europe, not once but TWICE from the Germans. Guess you couldn’t cut it against them.

I wouldn’t be caught fucking dead anywhere in France. I have been and it is a disgusting shithole.[/quote]

Any student of history knows that the British and French did the lion’s share of killing and dying during WWI, and that the Russians did likewise during WWII. To say that the US was “back to back world war champs” is disingenuous to say the least. The Deutsches Heer and the Wehrmacht respectively had already been through the meat grinder long before American forces stepped foot upon continental Europe.
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This is true, but they were losing. WWI the allied powers might have prevailed without US involvement. WWII, no way in hell.

And if you didn’t detect my sarcasm… I am sorry. I was just being as over the top as kneegro.

My personal favorite countries in Europe were Austria, Sweden, Denmark, and Switzerland. Thoroughly enjoyed myself there, but the food was so-so. I was there with a native of Slovakia, who had lived with me for a few years as an exchange student. So, I got the real tour of that area as far as staying away from the tourist crap.

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[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:
you went off the deep end dude. There’s no point in even having a discussion if you keep going full tard like you just did in that first paragraph of yours.
[/quote]
In all seriousness though he didn’t go off the deep end any farther than you did. Maybe there is a language barrier at work here, I dunno. You went from shooting someone because they assaulted you to shooting someone because they asked you a question. You went full tard first, and DD was trying to show you your error by doing the same thing. I think it went over your head though.[/quote]

It didn’t go over my head, I just think he pulled a metaphorical gun on me after I took a metaphorical swing at him. I got out of line but he overreacted.

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You do realize you you equated pulling a gun on someone violently attacking you to knee capping a guy for asking a question, right?

And it wasn’t an over reaction it was facetious.[/quote]

You can’t argue with the ingrained ideology of stupidity in Europe these days. That is why our ancestors got the fuck out. I hope the next few generations in Europe get used to speaking Russian or Chinese…[/quote]

What aspects of European culture do you see as ingrained stupidity? [/quote]

Basically the the complete willingness to give up personal liberty for the greater good. Which has infected the US as well and it disgusts me. That and the whole taxes/ socialist thing… You know government being all powerful and doing as they please… The reasons people left for the US in the first place…

The U.S. Constitution was created and designed by our nationâ??s 56 founding fathers to promote just six goals, as follows: (1) form a more perfect union, (2) establish justice, (3) insure domestic tranquility, (4) provide for the common defense, (5) promote the general welfare, and (6) secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.

Which our government now is doing the best to completely fuck up and push us further towards being like Europe.

I am not saying Europe does not have cool things to see or nice places to visit, but it would be my version of misery to live in most of the countries there.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
You will starve in France, those fuckers will serve you a piece of meat which will have you thinking…where is the rest of it ?

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The only place in Europe that I enjoyed the food was Italy.[/quote]

Probably because it’s the only one you’re familiar with. Most Mediterranean countries’ cuisine is leagues above what you’re used to, and it varies from region to region in each country.
About the starving - I usually prefer local places as opposed to fancy ones so I can’t say I ever had that problem in France. [/quote]

All of my brothers and father were in the Navy and did the obligatory Mediterranean cruises. They loved it. The tourist type places were so-so, but farther in things were great- food, people, etc.
My one brother had a mountain bike on board and would hit the road as soon as they got to shore. He never had the typical complaints that people have about any of the countries he visited.

If I ever have the chance, a trip through Italy and France to hunt truffles would be like the ultimate vacation.
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Exatly, typical touristic places are usually a rip-off and the quality is often nothing to write home about. Just like going to a Greek restaurant outside of Greece doesn’t really gives you a fair idea of their cuisine.

Similar to when you ride in a bus full of rich tourists in Laos and you just don’t see the big deal about opium or whatever crap they just gave you.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

Basically the the complete willingness to give up personal liberty for the greater good. Which has infected the US as well and it disgusts me. That and the whole taxes/ socialist thing… You know government being all powerful and doing as they please… The reasons people left for the US in the first place…
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Hahaha I fucking knew it! “Taxes/socialist thing”…You couldn’t be more stereotypical if you waved a flag while typing.

I’ve seen parrots with more of a clue, I know you can’t possibly conceive this but you have more restrictions to your liberty or freedom or whatever you wanna call it than anywhere in western Europe.

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[quote]knee-gro wrote:
[Y]ou have more restrictions to your liberty or freedom or whatever you wanna call it than anywhere in western Europe.[/quote]

Elaborate?

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[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

Basically the the complete willingness to give up personal liberty for the greater good. Which has infected the US as well and it disgusts me. That and the whole taxes/ socialist thing… You know government being all powerful and doing as they please… The reasons people left for the US in the first place…
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Hahaha I fucking knew it! “Taxes/socialist thing”…You couldn’t be more stereotypical if you waved a flag while typing.

I’ve seen parrots with more of a clue, I know you can’t possibly conceive this but you have more restrictions to your liberty or freedom or whatever you wanna call it than anywhere in western Europe.
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More restrictions to my freedom than anywhere in western Europe? That is fucking hilarious. Please tell me of all these freedoms that western Europe has that I don’t. I am anxiously awaiting this one.

Maybe you mean socialized medicine where the hospitals are utterly disgusting and run down? Where if you don’t have cash, good luck getting seen anywhere within that week. You can downplay this all you want or call bs, but I have been to Emergency rooms in Rome and one in England and both I wouldn’t want my dog to be given care in.

Or maybe it is the enormous amount of open land you have where you can hunt easily and at a whim in all the countries in eastern Europe?

Or maybe it is some of the highest marginal tax rates around in eastern Europe that delegates more freedom?

Or maybe it is the EU that is sooo powerful that brings about more freedom.

But yes please enlighten us on all this freedom we are missing out on. I am expecting just more personal attacks as that is all you can seem to offer.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:
Maybe you mean socialized medicine where the hospitals are utterly disgusting and run down? Where if you don’t have cash, good luck getting seen anywhere within that week. You can downplay this all you want or call bs, but I have been to Emergency rooms in Rome and one in England and both I wouldn’t want my dog to be given care in.
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Although it is indicated U.S.A has the most top ranking hospitals in the world:

http://hospitals.webometrics.info/en/world

It’s funny European health care systems are considered better than U.S.A, no?

(rankings based on health, health equality, responsiveness, responsiveness equality and fair financial contribution)

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Must admit I’m not too up to scratch with what goes on the good ol’ US of A but to suggest us Eurofaggots live in a socialist hellhole is WILDLY off the mark.

Oh

And god bless the NHS

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[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
live in a socialist hellhole is WILDLY off the mark.

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I don’t know if that is true, as I’m not about to spend my day looking up what percentage European business is owned by government, however I think many people confuse “socialist” with “ever expanded safety net”. (To use a kinder description)

They are really two different conversations, and you can be a capitalist nation and still have the second problem.

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[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
Must admit I’m not too up to scratch with what goes on the good ol’ US of A but to suggest us Eurofaggots live in a socialist hellhole is WILDLY off the mark.

Oh

And god bless the NHS[/quote]

Chong, whatever happened to RDS2134 (or something like that)? I seem to remember you and him met up once or twice.

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[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
Must admit I’m not too up to scratch with what goes on the good ol’ US of A but to suggest us Eurofaggots live in a socialist hellhole is WILDLY off the mark.

Oh

And god bless the NHS[/quote]

I don’t think anyone said you were Eurofaggots lol. If you like having the things Europe does, then by all means enjoy it and revel in it. But personally, I don’t.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]knee-gro wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

Basically the the complete willingness to give up personal liberty for the greater good. Which has infected the US as well and it disgusts me. That and the whole taxes/ socialist thing… You know government being all powerful and doing as they please… The reasons people left for the US in the first place…
[/quote]
Hahaha I fucking knew it! “Taxes/socialist thing”…You couldn’t be more stereotypical if you waved a flag while typing.

I’ve seen parrots with more of a clue, I know you can’t possibly conceive this but you have more restrictions to your liberty or freedom or whatever you wanna call it than anywhere in western Europe.
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More restrictions to my freedom than anywhere in western Europe? That is fucking hilarious. Please tell me of all these freedoms that western Europe has that I don’t. I am anxiously awaiting this one.

Maybe you mean socialized medicine where the hospitals are utterly disgusting and run down? Where if you don’t have cash, good luck getting seen anywhere within that week. You can downplay this all you want or call bs, but I have been to Emergency rooms in Rome and one in England and both I wouldn’t want my dog to be given care in.

Or maybe it is the enormous amount of open land you have where you can hunt easily and at a whim in all the countries in eastern Europe?

Or maybe it is some of the highest marginal tax rates around in eastern Europe that delegates more freedom?

Or maybe it is the EU that is sooo powerful that brings about more freedom.

But yes please enlighten us on all this freedom we are missing out on. I am expecting just more personal attacks as that is all you can seem to offer.[/quote]

Your talk about founding fathers and their intents earlier on shows me you do not understand the difference between a constitutional republic and a democracy.
Europe is more of a democraty than the USA, which is actually closer to a plutocracy, evident in various aspects of your society, from healthcare and education to the judicial/law enforcement system. Let’s not even get into the incredibly biased American media and it’s ridiculous propaganda.
Sure it happens here too but to a much lesser extent.

I don’t know if I’m being too vague, but I’m sure it’s a waste of time explaining this to you anyway. I don’t even know what you’re bringing up eastern europe for. Why not Singapor while you’re at?

You also live in one of western’s most prudish societies regarding sex, drugs, drinking age. Hey you like to blow up deers, I like to be able to smoke an eigh ball and fuck a hooker without the possibility of getting in trouble with the law. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Taxes? Don’t make me laugh. Sure, income tax rates are higher in Europe overall,especially if you have a higher income, but much more fair (lower? I think so) for those of lower income.The range of taxable incomes is usually much narrower here too.

Ooahh…socialism. Yeah fundamental rights like quality education and healthcare for those in need are such an affront to liberty. Why not make police private then too?
“Oh socialized cops are so bad if you can’t afford good ones you’re screwed”.
You’re wrong in so many ways I feel like drawing mah gun and shoot the screen.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
Must admit I’m not too up to scratch with what goes on the good ol’ US of A but to suggest us Eurofaggots live in a socialist hellhole is WILDLY off the mark.

Oh

And god bless the NHS[/quote]

I don’t think anyone said you were Eurofaggots lol. If you like having the things Europe does, then by all means enjoy it and revel in it. But personally, I don’t.[/quote]

Of course. I was just trying to be funny.

Please bear with me here as I never get involved in these high brow subjects as I find it difficult to convey my thoughts, through a lack of knowledge tinged with apathy, however your posts have forced me to respond.

I, personally find it difficult to grasp this concept of ‘Europe’ that is being banded around.

When I hear you say ‘Europe’, I immediately think stricter gun control and medical care, as if that is the overall defining culture or ideology that ‘Europe’ projects. They’re just a small part of a very big picture.

The ‘culture’ in my country is so far removed from the likes of Finnish ‘culture’ or Italian ‘culture’, as are the ideologies but then I imagine that would be the case considering there are 50 countries within the borders of Europe.

Also, the emergency rooms you visited may have been below your standards however do they represent the medical system as a whole?

I had nasal polyps a couple of years back. I had to wait 2 months for surgery to remove them. What I didn’t have to wait for, was some insurance company deciding if my policy covered the operation. I just had to wait a wee while and endure the inability to breath through my nose. I, being a Scottish cheapskate, prefer this approach.

I also get my inhalers for free(I’m asthamatic). This is because Scotland gives FREE prescription charges to all its people. England doesn’t and they’re only across the border. So as you can see, the differences in ‘idealogies’ kick in, 100 miles down the road.

So please spare us the grim euro state nightmare that you seem to bang on about. I feel you’re cherry picking your argument based on some Eurotrip you went on and tea party propaganda however If I’m wrong, then heart felt apologies from across the Atlantic!

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
Must admit I’m not too up to scratch with what goes on the good ol’ US of A but to suggest us Eurofaggots live in a socialist hellhole is WILDLY off the mark.

Oh

And god bless the NHS[/quote]

I don’t think anyone said you were Eurofaggots lol. If you like having the things Europe does, then by all means enjoy it and revel in it. But personally, I don’t.[/quote]
That’s actually fair enough. I’d tell you the same. I think these back and forths are the result of each party telling the other what is the best way without taking into account personal preference

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Germany was unable to defeat a state that it shared contiguous geography with in France, much less an Island nation in Britain. The offense-defense balance was certainly in favor of the defense. The stopping power of water would have made an invasion of the British Isles virtually impossible. The entente didn’t need to win, they needed only not to lose. American forces were not a decisive material contribution to the conflict.

What do you base that assessment on? 2/3 of the best units in the Wehrmacht were being annihilated on the eastern front and an imperially minded Japan was bogged down in China. The war would have certainly lasted longer if the US had stayed on the sidelines, but it’s a stretch to say that without American involvement European states would be mere provinces of a hegemonic Germany.