Nutrition Books?

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I know I said I’d leave this thread but it dawned on me: if my stuff is all so simple, perhaps you could’ve saved me years of turmoil studying the following academic courses, some of which were unforgiving subjects that you couldn’t BS at all, or my masters thesis that I had to present to several Phd’s (one of whom used to write for THIS SITE):

preparatory math
general chemistry
organic chemistry
biochemistry
microbiology
contemporary nutrition
nutrition communication
medical nutrition therapy
nutrition counseling
energy and exercise
community nutrition
research methodology
masters thesis (literature review I did)
food and culture
food science
food technology
issues, trends, and challenges in nutrition (here I thought we RD’s were so behind the times on everything)
basic nutrition
advanced human nutritiion and metabolism
foodservice management

Some of these courses were given in two separate semesters (eg, nutr & metab I and II, chem I and II). Again, I could’ve been saved all this time and aggravation had I known my profession and understanding of nutrition science was all so simple.

PS: I don’t know of ONE profession (law, medicine, personal training, sales, whatever) that doesn’t have some incompetent or lame people.

I actually DON’T want to argue or fight with anyone here or get snobby but I see no reason why my field has to be broguht up in a negative light out of nowhere. [/quote]

Lol - shut it dude - you’re an RD for God’s sake - you don’t know SHIT!! ; )

Ha ha at the dumbfuckery in this thread - love ya bro!! : )

Seriously though - it’s a tough curriculum - I’ve taken many of those courses myself, and it does get seriously fucking old listening to self proclaimed experts shitting on the education process. Because you know - board certified professionals are OBVIOUSLY fucking retards, right? [/quote]

I get it, many people rip on RDs so I’m sure it gets old when a few of you on here are of a better mindset and really get this whole nutrition thing.

But, does it not bug you as a whole your profession has been way behind the times?

It bugs me when trainers out there do dumb shit, but at least most of the time the dumb shit isn’t harming one’s health :wink: (though certainly is has and can).

Skynett, you’re a smart dude that in interactions in the past I have respect for, so know that it’s not a personal attack on your or brick as individuals, but as a whole.

Shit in this country has to change dietary info wise, and some RDs still hold on to dumb shit. In fact, I’ve had to stop letting them speak at my senior center because the last one that came in talked about controlling BP mainly through salt restriction, and even then after I gave a talk about red meat and eggs being perfectly healthy, she got up on stage right after and in a high BP talk decided to say “limit red meat consumption because it can increase cancer risk”…
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Yes, in a case like this you’re dealing with an antiquated RD. But again we have to look at context, which she didn’t do. Saturated fats taken moderately are beneficial. In some cases it should be limited though.

Id highly recommend learning how researching/understanding/evaluating studies done. IMHO its the single most effective tool to be successful in the nutrition field. Its not gonna help you that much with getting through school (since alot of this stuff wont be in textbooks ever/for several years) but theres SO much crap in these databases you can really learn alot.

I never personally read it but it sounds like " Studying a Study and Testing a Test" recommended by Brick is something perfect for this.

If you get good with this you will absolutely ROCK every single paper you get (and I promise youll get a crap ton of them)

Ive gotten teachers who either didnt know plenty or their information is so incredibly outdated (ive had a nutrition teacher teach something like “dont eat more than 2 eggs a week”) so it goes a long way.

[quote]dcm1602 wrote:

I never personally read it but it sounds like " Studying a Study and Testing a Test" recommended by Brick is something perfect for this.

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Yep - that’s the text book for a course called Research Methodologies…

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I think we first need to establish each person’s nutrition age. Meaning, of the 5% how many of those are truly mastering the basics on a consistent basis for extended periods of time? Meaning, are they eating protein+veggies at every meal, with some other things at certain other meals.[/quote]

I very much like this ‘nutrition age’ concept. I recall my very first step (good ole T-Dawg 2.0) was to unlearn that
bread/rice/pasta portion of every meal. Years down the road, and carb-heavy refeeds become mandatory.

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Again, I just want to make it clear that I have no intention of insulting or fighting with people now that I’m on the site again. My immature shenanigans are a thing of the past. If I use some sarcasm, please take it as a means of using sarcasm to express myself, nothing more. [/quote]

But the old Brick was so much more entertaining! :wink:

[quote]dcm1602 wrote:
Id highly recommend learning how researching/understanding/evaluating studies done. IMHO its the single most effective tool to be successful in the nutrition field. Its not gonna help you that much with getting through school (since alot of this stuff wont be in textbooks ever/for several years) but theres SO much crap in these databases you can really learn alot.[/quote]

Well said. And not just nutrition, but really any academic field past undergrad-level and possessing these skills become mandatory.

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I think we first need to establish each person’s nutrition age. Meaning, of the 5% how many of those are truly mastering the basics on a consistent basis for extended periods of time? Meaning, are they eating protein+veggies at every meal, with some other things at certain other meals.[/quote]

I very much like this ‘nutrition age’ concept. I recall my very first step (good ole T-Dawg 2.0) was to unlearn that
bread/rice/pasta portion of every meal. Years down the road, and carb-heavy refeeds become mandatory.

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Again, I just want to make it clear that I have no intention of insulting or fighting with people now that I’m on the site again. My immature shenanigans are a thing of the past. If I use some sarcasm, please take it as a means of using sarcasm to express myself, nothing more. [/quote]

But the old Brick was so much more entertaining! :wink:

[quote]dcm1602 wrote:
Id highly recommend learning how researching/understanding/evaluating studies done. IMHO its the single most effective tool to be successful in the nutrition field. Its not gonna help you that much with getting through school (since alot of this stuff wont be in textbooks ever/for several years) but theres SO much crap in these databases you can really learn alot.[/quote]

Well said. And not just nutrition, but really any academic field past undergrad-level and possessing these skills become mandatory.
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Well, F-me, I did not realize you were an old member. I assume this is the old Bricknyce? Even more apologies to ya, always liked your previous posts :wink: guess I fell into the new guy trap

When I was in school for massage therapy a few years back everyone was crazy about “Healing with Whole Foods”. I have it but have never actually read it… Thing is like a doorstop. I think I’ll crack that open, I’ll let ya know if it looks decent.

[quote]chillain wrote:

But the old Brick was so much more entertaining! :wink:

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Thanks. :slight_smile:

But old Brick was very silly, immature, and at times rude. :frowning:

I bought this book called Muscle Chow when I was in college. It was pretty good, I havent used it for a few years now but from what I remember it had some simplistic recipes tht anyone could cook. Unless your a fucktard

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
I bought this book called Muscle Chow when I was in college. It was pretty good, I havent used it for a few years now but from what I remember it had some simplistic recipes tht anyone could cook. Unless your a fucktard[/quote]

I agree, I own this book as well. Great recipes, healthy, and everything I’ve cooked out of it tastes great. Written by Greg Avedon. I recommend it.