Because if these wars were a result of Communist inspired revolutions (Nicaragua), civil wars (Vietnam), invasions (Korea) or a coup, it would prove that fighting was going on before America got involved, and if so, how could America be blamed for starting these wars?
And if this is true, your dubious statement is another lie, par for the course in this thread.
But of course people on this board love the butchering Communists and they are given a free pass. Never hear anyone bitch about how many people they murdered, the wars they started (unless it’s an anti-athiest thread).
Because if these wars were a result of Communist inspired revolutions (Nicaragua), civil wars (Vietnam), invasions (Korea) or a coup, it would prove that fighting was going on before America got involved, and if so, how could America be blamed for starting these wars?
And if this is true, your dubious statement is another lie, par for the course in this thread.
But of course people on this board love the butchering Communists and they are given a free pass. Never hear anyone bitch about how many people they murdered, the wars they started (unless it’s an anti-athiest thread). [/quote]
So because someone somewhere has already started a war you are free to jump in?
Because the evil evil communists kill people you might as well kill people to?
Is that what passes as a justification for war in the US these days?
Orion, give it a rest. It’s no secret Hezbollah uses weapons. If we agree they use weapons, we can agree those weapons must be transported. If they’re transported, they can be intercepted. There’s no reason and no need for you to drag another thread into Rockwellian conspiracy land. For once, just say “my bad” and let the thread stay on topic. Justin Raimondo isn’t right about everything.
[quote]horsepuss wrote:
What do you guys think would be the worldwide result if say some radical christian blew up Mecca, I mean took Mecca of the map.[/quote]
easy.
take the result of a group of Muslims after a Christian named a teddy bear Muhammad and magnify this result by a couple of billion.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Orion, give it a rest. It’s no secret Hezbollah uses weapons. If we agree they use weapons, we can agree those weapons must be transported. If they’re transported, they can be intercepted. There’s no reason and no need for you to drag another thread into Rockwellian conspiracy land. For once, just say “my bad” and let the thread stay on topic. Justin Raimondo isn’t right about everything.[/quote]
So what?
As I said, you and Israel support armed groups operating in Iran too.
[quote]orion wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Orion, give it a rest. It’s no secret Hezbollah uses weapons. If we agree they use weapons, we can agree those weapons must be transported. If they’re transported, they can be intercepted. There’s no reason and no need for you to drag another thread into Rockwellian conspiracy land. For once, just say “my bad” and let the thread stay on topic. Justin Raimondo isn’t right about everything.
So what?
As I said, you and Israel support armed groups operating in Iran too.
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So what?
Israel is surrounded by nations wanting to eradicate her. Should Israel allow it’s destruction? And don’t tell me that’s not the end game. So, should Israel allow it? Because some Austrain doesn’t want to read “bad stuff” in the newspapers? Because he thinks the jihad ends with Israel?
Hey, you’re borders have been made, remade, and made again. Now you get to enjoy relative peace. Of course, you would never claim a right of your nation and your people to exist. And you’d never, ever, ever accept the help of a foriegn power if surrounded by enemies bent on your destruction. No, not you. You’d martyr yourself and your countrymen in the name of the Mises Institute.
Weapon-smuggling attempts are usually considered a war crime, no?
especially if they are going to a confirmed terrorist group like hezbollah.
Iran has committed a war-crime. I wonder if the next attempt will spark a bigger response.
Israel is surrounded by nations wanting to eradicate her. Should Israel allow it’s destruction? And don’t tell me that’s not the end game. So, should Israel allow it? Because some Austrain doesn’t want to read “bad stuff” in the newspapers? Because he thinks the jihad ends with Israel?
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Please quit portraying the Israelis as victims. It’s totally false. They are the bully in the region.
Israel is surrounded by nations wanting to eradicate her. Should Israel allow it’s destruction? And don’t tell me that’s not the end game. So, should Israel allow it? Because some Austrain doesn’t want to read “bad stuff” in the newspapers? Because he thinks the jihad ends with Israel?
Please quit portraying the Israelis as victims. It’s totally false. They are the bully in the region.
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Oh, obviously. Women and religious minorities (some who were large minorities, and further back, even majorities, at one point) throughout that entire region can attest to that. They’re neighbors are all just waiting for Israel to unilaterally disarm so they can finally send those “welcome to the region” homewarming gifts.
Israel is surrounded by nations wanting to eradicate her. Should Israel allow it’s destruction? And don’t tell me that’s not the end game. So, should Israel allow it? Because some Austrain doesn’t want to read “bad stuff” in the newspapers? Because he thinks the jihad ends with Israel?
Please quit portraying the Israelis as victims. It’s totally false. They are the bully in the region.
Oh, obviously. Women and religious minorities (some who were large minorities, and further back, even majorities, at one point) throughout that entire region can attest to that. They’re neighbors are all just waiting for Israel to unilaterally disarm so they can finally send those “welcome to the region” homewarming gifts.[/quote]
It’s like saying American’s are the “victims” in the so-called war on terror.
Israel has nukes, all sorts of neat weaponry (including jets and helicopters) that the U.S government provides them at the expense of our tax dollars, all the natural resources and prime agricultural land of the area.
And since you bring up minorities, ask the average Palestinian (who might just be Christian) how rough the Israelis actually have it.
The Israelis can take a dump on their neighbors, while you cheer them on, but they had better do it without American tax dollars.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
The Israelis can take a dump on their neighbors, while you cheer them on, but they had better do it without American tax dollars.[/quote]
See, here’s the difference between me and a couple of you guys. I can say that we shouldn’t prop up Israel, Saudia Arabia, or even the UK. I’m down with the notion that taxpayer money is solely for defending the US. And that no other lives, but US lives, warrant sending our young men to fight and die. And no, I don’t see much benefit in defending Israel, anyways.
What I don’t do, is pretend Israel is what is while existing in a region full of friendly neighbors. Neighbors not waiting for that one fatal mistake. Neighbors that could accept Israel’s existence, whatever the borders might be.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Dustin wrote:
The Israelis can take a dump on their neighbors, while you cheer them on, but they had better do it without American tax dollars.
See, here’s the difference between me and a couple of you guys. I can say that we shouldn’t prop up Israel, Saudia Arabia, or even the UK. I’m down with the notion that taxpayer money is solely for defending the US. And that no other lives, but US lives, warrant sending our young men to fight and die. And no, I don’t see much benefit in defending Israel, anyways.
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Okay, fair enough.
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What I don’t do, is pretend Israel is what is while existing in a region full of friendly neighbors. Neighbors not waiting for that one fatal mistake. Neighbors that could accept Israel’s existence, whatever the borders might be. [/quote]
Israel’s neighbors aren’t friendly, but it is also apparent who is carrying the big stick in that region.
Israel is surrounded by nations wanting to eradicate her. Should Israel allow it’s destruction? And don’t tell me that’s not the end game. So, should Israel allow it? Because some Austrain doesn’t want to read “bad stuff” in the newspapers? Because he thinks the jihad ends with Israel?
Please quit portraying the Israelis as victims. It’s totally false. They are the bully in the region.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
The Israelis can take a dump on their neighbors, while you cheer them on, but they had better do it without American tax dollars.[/quote]
Yeah, the Israelis can take a dump on their neighbors. They are fighting for their survival, not exporting genocidal theological revolution across the region.
Israel is surrounded by nations wanting to eradicate her. Should Israel allow it’s destruction? And don’t tell me that’s not the end game. So, should Israel allow it? Because some Austrain doesn’t want to read “bad stuff” in the newspapers? Because he thinks the jihad ends with Israel?
Please quit portraying the Israelis as victims. It’s totally false. They are the bully in the region.
you’re an idiot[/quote]
Were you not the same guy that talked about killing civilians if it meant saving your own ass?
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Dustin wrote:
The Israelis can take a dump on their neighbors, while you cheer them on, but they had better do it without American tax dollars.
Yeah, the Israelis can take a dump on their neighbors. They are fighting for their survival, not exporting genocidal theological revolution across the region.[/quote]
The IDF can go strolling through Gaza city, shooting everything that moves, which they did. They can slaughter their neighbors and claim to be the victim.
All I’m asking is that they do it on there own, without my money.