Nordic Blood: Climbing And Lifting / Lifting And Climbing

[Voxel]

In general a good idea to take time and not act while in an emotional state

[Voxel]

@mr.v3lv3t

I’m sure you realize that had you opted to revive the relationship, the feelings of insecurity and resent could ultimately lead to causing another harm anyway. Kind of leads to a hurt now vs. hurt later scenario, the latter of which I think would be more damaging. It’s hard no doubt, but making immediate sacrifices for the greater long-term good can keep the mind healthy IMO.

This was more or less my exact thought process

@mr.v3lv3t

Anna given that you’ve expressed the notion that discussions on this forum regarding relationships and interactions with the opposite sex are educational for you, I’d chalk that thread up as rooted mostly in fantasy.

I’m pretty sure that poster may have those problems but some of the responses were iffy and not suitable material for learning. Learning about relationships from anons on a board isn’t the teaching environment I would opt for myself

[dagill2]

@Voxel

Learning about relationships from anons on a board isn’t the teaching environment I would opt for myself

Agreed wholeheartedly. Any discussion of relationship dynamics in which you only see one person viewpoint is deeply flawed in my opinion.

@Voxel

your thoughts are always welcome

I think my thoughts are very similar to yours and @mr.v3lv3t . The only thing I would add is that this:

@Voxel

I think regardless of how the other person behaves afterwards existing in a relationship wherein I’ve been “taken back” is a destructive environment for me to be in. Because I’ll always be feeling insecure. Questioning. Trying to read their body language, anticipate subtext

To me makes the decision very simple (not easy). Because I can very much imagine myself feeling the same way and I can’t see a healthy relationship coming from that environment.

@Voxel

I believe our generation is semi-plagued, and following one’s undoubtedly plagued, by not having grown up in an environment where broken things are repaired, fixed, or at least held together with duct tape and that has implications for how broken things are treated

A fantastic analogy and perspective. I’m often amazed at how little work people are prepared to put into relationships. I’ve always considered it either a byproduct of the Disney-style myth that one day you’ll meet someone who’s absolutely just perfect for you and there will never be any issues or an extension of the self medicating “there must be a magic pill for this” mentality.

[Voxel]

Pop culture in general teaches us expectations for that which we don’t already have in life. I’ll happily enjoy most content but with that said I can think of a lot of harmful ideas being perpetuated. One that’s been a recurring theme, perhaps most easily identified in friends, is indirectly elevating being dangerously possessive as an attractive trait in a partner. Or that its a behaviour that “a good guy” engages in.

[anna_5588]

@Voxel

Learning about relationships from anons on a board isn’t the teaching environment I would opt for myself

IN general, yes.
With that said, I trust a certain set of people on this forum and it seems to be the case that relative anonymity allows for more intimate disclosure that I might not be able to observe “IRL”

Let’s just say I would not be engaging in the same advice seeking behaviour on Reddit

[Koestrizer]

Anonymity, much like social media which I’d argue is anonymous in a different way, gives you the opportunity to present yourself in any way you want. That doesn’t make it real.

I also don’t think relationships (platonic or romantic) are something that can or should be learned. It’s something to experience and whatever you make of it is your kind of relationship. There is rarely a right or a wrong.

[Koestrizer]

@Voxel

but write me your thoughts!

I’ll try again tomorrow night btw. Would be an insane rant by an agitated lunatic tonight.

[Voxel]

That might be therapeutic for you too tbh, you probably filter yourself a lot, maybe take the opportunity to go off filter. You can write me twice. Once raving. Once more collected.

[anna_5588]

@Voxel

That might be therapeutic for you too

There’s some really cool research by Pennebaker showing some quite astounding physical and psychological benefits of disclosure

[Koestrizer]

@Voxel

you probably filter yourself a lot

Not untrue. Still less on here than in 99% of real life funnily enough.

[Voxel]

Monday 2021-02-15

A. Bent-over 45 degree row 80, 85, 95 kilos, 6 reps
B. Seal Row 60, 50, 55 kilos, 6 reps
C. Upper back deadlift 100, 120, 140 kilos 6 reps (final set wasn’t great MMC)
D. Seated Row, some
E. Cable Curl, some

Rows surprised me. Since I didn’t do any pulling the previous day and my hamstring wasn’t feeling great I opted for some pulling

Tuesday 2021-02-16

Hamstring still wasn’t feeling great but I didn’t have any better training ideas

Main Work	Target	Reps	Weight
A. Squat	75%	5	90
	85%	5	100
	95%	5	115
B. Front Squat (ss: ab wheel)	85%	5	70
	85%	5	60
	85%	5	65
	85%	5	65
	85%	5	65

C. Isometric split squat 1 minute

Rehab work

Hips feel a little shoddy afterwards. I’ll mark this down now, and if front squats cause it again I’ll be switching to front squats with a bench.

[Voxel]

Wednesday 2021-02-17

Off, can’t really remember what I did. Nothing?

Thursday 2021-02-18

Went to the climbing hall twice today just to belay. Discovered my rope might need replacing.

A1.	Push Press
	Sets	3	Tempo/Method	Normal reps
	Reps	1s week, 5s Pro	Rest Period	Didn’t care
Set	-2	-1	0	1	2	3
Reps	5	5	1	5	5	6
Target	50%	60%	75%	75%	85%	95%
Weight	30	35	45	45	50	57

A2.	Log Row
	Sets	3	Tempo/Method	Normal reps
	Reps	8-6-4 wave	Rest Period	Didn’t care
Set	-1	0	1	2	3	4	5	6
Reps	8	8	8	6	4	8	6	4
Target	60%	72%	75%	80%	85%	80%	85%	90%
Weight	50	60	62	67	72	67	72	77

B.	Log Press
	Sets	1	Tempo/Method	Normal reps
	Reps	AMRAP	Rest Period	N/A
Notes:	Stop before technical failure
Set	1
Reps	12
Target	80%
Weight	40

Last time I did log press AMRAP my form broke down. Got the same number of reps today without form break down. Awesome

C1.	Strict Press / Log Press (odd / even)
	Sets	6	Tempo/Method	Normal reps
	Reps	10	Rest	None
Set	1	2	3	4	5	6
Reps	10	10	10	10	10	10
Target	35	35	35	35	35	35
Weight	35	35	35	35	35	35
C2.	Push-ups / Inverted Row (odd / even)
	Sets	6	Tempo/Method	Attenuated Eccentric
	Reps	10	Rest	None
Set	1	2	3	4	5	6
Reps	10	10	8	10	7	10
Weight	bw	bw	bw	bw	bw	bw
C3.	Lateral Raises
	Sets	6	Tempo/Method	Attenuated Eccentric
	Reps	10-15 reps	Rest	None
Set	1	2	3	4	5	6
Reps	15	15	15	15	12	15
Weight	2.5/h	2.5/h	2.5/h	2.5/h	2.5/h	2.5/h
C4.	Band pull-aparts / Band face-pulls (odd / even)
	Sets	6	Tempo/Method	Attenuated Eccentric
	Reps	15-20	Rest	120-180s
Set	1	2	3	4	5	6
Reps	20	20	20	20	11	15
Weight	red band	yellow band	red band	yellow band	red band	yellow band

D.	KB Seal Row
	Sets	3	Tempo/Method	Attenuated Eccentric
	Reps	10-15 reps	Rest	120-180s
Set	1	2	3
Reps	15	15	15
Weight	16 kg / h	16 kg / h	16 kg / h

Use same weight for rows next time. Last two can be more pristine.

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The above logging style is great to input stuff in the gym. Not so great for posting. Will I have to code a Google Sheets converter thingamajig. Maybe.

[Bagsy]

Wow, I’m laughing so hard at myself right now. I totally missed the post you mention and instead rambled on about tea. I swear that was not my intention!

Unfortunately I too can’t offer much practical advice, as I can hardly say I have ever been in a relationship. But I can personally relate to a few things you write:

@Voxel

I don’t take “rejection” personally as, fortunately, I’m quite content with who I am and don’t desperately desire to change all that much except for the things that cause me to function poorly.

@Voxel

I guess “intimacy issues” is the general theme after all.

I don’t know how serious the relationship was. However, I think many would be turned off by such indecisiveness. If someone were that fickle with me in not just a romantic but any kind of relationship, I would hesitate to move forward at that time.

@Voxel

As far as being brave. I write these texts outside the forum first. I’ve fallen into the habit as using writing as a means of therapy. Some aren’t ever published anywhere. I post, not in need of affirmation, solace, or conflict but because I hope I can learn something further about the topic, or my own thoughts and feelings by how others respond.

Without writing, I’m just feeling. And stewing in emotions does nothing for me.

I think I asked you this before, but you were concerned about reader privacy – ever thought about maintaining a blog seriously? It could be a good outlet for you.

I was actually meaning to again ask you about that lately anyway. A couple days ago I suddenly got this kick to start a blog, and I think I’m going to. I’m still indecisive on domain and hosting, but I digress. I mention this because I know we probably have similar attitudes on user privacy. I’ve been digesting tons of stuff on the IndieWeb site. Something like this might be up your alley. I think you would find most of the information interesting.

Don’t mean to insist that all writing should be published. Throwing things out there.

[Voxel]

@Bagsy

Wow, I’m laughing so hard at myself right now. I totally missed the post you mention and instead rambled on about tea. I swear that was not my intention!

Tea is good though.

@Bagsy

I have ever been in a relationship

Is this something that affects you in any way? I.e., is it something you regret or do you feel value neutral about it?

@Bagsy

I don’t know how serious the relationship was.

Hard to gauge. Calendar time, inconsequential. Was able to be more honest about things than I have been with anyone else for quite some time as we had a lot of things in common in the same way me and @Koestrizer has things in common. It’s disarming not having to maintain a façade. It also doesn’t seem healthy to consider it a quality necessarily. It can be, but it can also be trapping.

@Bagsy

I think I asked you this before, but you were concerned about reader privacy – ever thought about maintaining a blog seriously? It could be a good outlet for you.

I agree. I will write more online eventually, but I don’t think it’ll be about these more personal things. A part of me very much wants to write a piece about weight and the climbing community.
While it is possible to register a domain by proxy I much prefer owning them myself.

I’ve more or less settled on the idea of starting small. I don’t need tracking. Can figure that out once I’ve made a habit of routinely posting.

Being tech-savvy cuts two ways, because it becomes easy to get trapped in doing things right and never getting them done at all. If you ever do start a site, I hope you let me know somehow where I should og.

[Bagsy]

@Voxel

Tea is good though.

I got my priorities straight, clearly.

@Voxel

Is this something that affects you in any way? I.e., is it something you regret or do you feel value neutral about it?

Eh, hard to say how different things would be. I don’t exactly regret it.

@Voxel

Hard to gauge. Calendar time, inconsequential. Was able to be more honest about things than I have been with anyone else for quite some time as we had a lot of things in common in the same way me and @Koestrizer has things in common.

That’s a shame that things turned out this way. But hey, I’m sure the number of people who have that many things in common with you and allow you to be yourself is more than 2. It’s also okay to grieve the loss now, later, or never. And that’s not to say that a relationship with this specific person could not work sometime in the future, even if you think you might hesitate.

Plus at the very least you’re learning more about yourself (or so it seems) during a pandemic. Many people are finding any kind of social interaction challenging at the moment.

@Voxel

Being tech-savvy cuts two ways, because it becomes easy to get trapped in doing things right and never getting them done at all. If you ever do start a site, I hope you let me know somehow where I should og.

That’s what I think I’m experiencing now. I care about these things, but I’m probably going to go with a popular static site generator without thinking too much about it. That I know enough about coding but not as specifically about web development can easily get me lost in the weeds when I care more about the writing part. Also the decision to be anonymous or not, blah blah blah.

[anna_5588]

Looks like the finger is healing well. Good work!

[Voxel]

It’s certainly not asymptomatic. Loading the finger in the gym is pretty predictable and I make a conscious effort even when moving plates around. But there’s no way I’d do say power cleans. I’m elated I can do handstands, because that really helps my mental wellbeing to be able to work on such skills (I only do it as part of my warm-up but nevertheless it inspires me).

Climbing, even gently, feels ways off. It’s my hope that I’ll be asymptomatic come next week, but I won’t be disappointed if not because that desire doesn’t seem entirely realistic. Afterwards, I got a good suggestion from a experienced climber to climb but remove a finger (not the injured one, as it needs loading). This’ll force me to climb at really low grades, and very mindfully to boot which is the entire point as there are certain types of moves and grips that’d put me at risk of re-injury/worsening it.

[Voxel]

Friday 2021-02-19

WEEK 3 SSL
Main Work	Target	Reps	Weight
A. Deadlift	75%	5	120
	85%	5	135
	95%	5	150
B. Farmer’s Handle Deads	85%	5	176
	85%	5	176
	85%	5	176
	85%	5	176
	85%	5	176

Hip thrusts 4x8@100

Noname ab stuff
Abductor/adductor 2x20

Mentally this is the right weight for farmer’s. Not sure how fast it is in reference to Jim’s adage of strong and fast lifter but its within the realms of what’s acceptable to me. Since loading them heavier requires four plates of the same size I might do a rep increment on this lift rather than increasing weight until such a time that the math checks out for the next set of not-inconvenient plates.

[anna_5588]

@Voxel

Afterwards, I got a good suggestion from a experienced climber to climb but remove a finger (not the injured one, as it needs loading). This’ll force me to climb at really low grades, and very mindfully to boot

Is this a similar concept to making exercises harder in other ways (or different implement, slowing tempo etc) when injured to get a stimulus while avoiding impatience/comparison?

[Voxel]

I won’t get a systemic stimulus, and even with the best assortment of drills carryover to my ordinary level of climbing is questionable. Removing the finger is to occupy my monkey brain to encourage me to make better choices, and the climbing itself will provide load to the tendon(s) which is necessary for healing properly. So, no systemic stimulus but a local one. Maybe less impatience. Just moving on the wall will feel good. I’ll try and focus on that rather than that I usually feel better the harder I go and the harder the challenge is.