Nolva vs. Clomid PCT for Tbol Only Cycle

I’m on my 9th day of a Turinabol only cycle at 50mg/ed. Cycle is going great.

I decided to use the tbol Iâ??ve had laying around because I always keep more gains during oral only cycles, and because when you think about it in depth adding test to a cycle would lead to more of a loss of gains after because when the exogenous test is dropped your body does not have the resources to maintain that amount of muscle even with “proper” pct.

You typically don’t run into this problem with a mild oral only cycle consisting of tbol because although your natty test is lowered and replaced in the muscle building process by the synthetic hormone, it isn’t completely reliant on it to maintain the muscle you gained while on. This is evident in the fact that your Total Testosterone levels are never higher while on a low androgenic compound like tbol or anavar.

But with any test ester your Total T will increase exponentially. Letâ??s say a SERM you use after a test cycle raises your test to 500ng/dl the 2000ng/dl or so you are now missing after the cycle is what helped you gain the muscle in the first place and your body needs that much test to maintain that muscle.

Now that I got that off my chest… I want to know if Clomid is more efficient at raising your natty test levels after a cycle than Nolvadex. Every PCT I’ve ever ran has consisted of Nolva and once Nolva + HCG (dumb I know)…My acne clears up while on cycle for some reason and gets horrible while using Nolva even when I’ve used it as a standalone just to raise test.

I’ve heard the bad side effects of Clomid but I’ve also heard that it restores the ole HPTA faster. However I’ve also seen the empirical data studies showing Nolva as being far superior to Clomid and Torem.

I would like to know what you guys think about all of this…Sorry for the grammar or lack thereof, I’m writing this before class and gotta go.

Roll Tide!

Lot of bro science in this post. There is a reason people dont recommend oral only

[quote]CougarPride wrote:
Lot of bro science in this post. There is a reason people dont recommend oral only[/quote]

I’m pretty malleable at this point, I’ve just never actually heard the real reason.

I dont know enough about the topic to go into specific detail with you about why its not good. Ive never seen oral only cycles recommended though. Everybody is different though I guess

If your afraid of a needle, then dont get on any kind of gear!
For PCT no novlva or clomid, because you dont need them.

[quote]gigomoravac wrote:
If your afraid of a needle, then dont get on any kind of gear!
For PCT no novlva or clomid, because you dont need them.[/quote]

I’ve done 3 cycles that were test based…I love needles, even when I contracted cellulitis.

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Youve got to train with the same intensity and eat just as much if not more after cycle if you want to keep gains. If youre losing all of your gains after cycle something needs to be adjusted.

How did you get on with the Clomid after the Tbol?
Would there be any benefit to running Clomid with the Tbol in a stack? I currently can’t inject so am interested in oral only cycles to cut and gain a bit of lean muscle.