No More F@%$ing Around

Nice job getting hallowed to check you out wink wink

Anyway dude I had 3, count em 3 questions if youd indulge me.

Can you recommend any good secondary chest exercises? Ive tried incline flys/flys and pull overs but they all nag my shoulders. I have a cable machine but im trying to use it as little as possible so id rather not have to resort to crossovers.

For a dynamic upperbody warm up could you give me an example of a few movements? Like on my lower days ill do some box jumps, mountain climbers, grioners etc but am at a bit of a loss for upper body dynamic stuff. Does med ball work and push ups count?

And last, when foam rolling in the evening whats a good number to shoot for massage wise? Im just going till I cant do it anymore(usually 20 rolls or so).

Monday 8/22/11

Bench Press: top set 8x240

High Incline DB Press: 8x45, 8x50, 8x55, 8x60, 8x65
60 sec rest

Circuit
Close Grip Bench: 2x12x135, 8x135, 9x135
DB Tri Ext.: 4x8x30
DB Pec Fly: 3x10x35, 9x35
30 sec rest between, 60 sec after

[quote]Oregand wrote:
Nice job getting hallowed to check you out wink wink

Anyway dude I had 3, count em 3 questions if youd indulge me.

Can you recommend any good secondary chest exercises? Ive tried incline flys/flys and pull overs but they all nag my shoulders. I have a cable machine but im trying to use it as little as possible so id rather not have to resort to crossovers.

For a dynamic upperbody warm up could you give me an example of a few movements? Like on my lower days ill do some box jumps, mountain climbers, grioners etc but am at a bit of a loss for upper body dynamic stuff. Does med ball work and push ups count?

And last, when foam rolling in the evening whats a good number to shoot for massage wise? Im just going till I cant do it anymore(usually 20 rolls or so).[/quote]

Dude, do you remember that whole part about “I’m backing out…?”

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]Oregand wrote:
Nice job getting hallowed to check you out wink wink

Anyway dude I had 3, count em 3 questions if youd indulge me.

Can you recommend any good secondary chest exercises? Ive tried incline flys/flys and pull overs but they all nag my shoulders. I have a cable machine but im trying to use it as little as possible so id rather not have to resort to crossovers.

For a dynamic upperbody warm up could you give me an example of a few movements? Like on my lower days ill do some box jumps, mountain climbers, grioners etc but am at a bit of a loss for upper body dynamic stuff. Does med ball work and push ups count?

And last, when foam rolling in the evening whats a good number to shoot for massage wise? Im just going till I cant do it anymore(usually 20 rolls or so).[/quote]

Dude, do you remember that whole part about “I’m backing out…?”[/quote]

Oh my bad, I thought I could still ask questions.

Never mind so :slight_smile:

Tuesday 8/23/11

Deadlift: top set 10x385

Bulgarian Split Squat: 2x12x95, 8x115, 9x115
45 sec rest between legs

Hamstring Curls: 2x8x105, 12x90, 20x60
60 sec rest

Superset:
Ab Wheel Rollout: 3x10
Side Plank: 30 sec/side
30 sec rest

Today marks my first day with Shelby’s help. I have hired him for online consultation for 12 weeks. His base plan for me is as follows:

5 meals/day: 45g protein, 40g carb, 15g fat

Plus: 5 whole omega 3 eggs before bed

On training days, I’ll replace one meal with the following:
30 min Preworkout: 30g waxy maize, 1 teaspoon BCAAs, 40g whey

During workout; 20g waxy maize, 1 teaspoon BCAAs

Immediately post workout : 40g waxy maize, 40g whey

He also recommends: 3g fish oil and 2600mg pimrose oil per day

Cardio: just start with 30 min walking 3 times/week

I’m 3 meals into my first day, and I have to say, I probably have not been eating enough carbs or fat…much to my surprise.

are you doint a lean gains diet where your goal is to get bigger? Either way, Shelby is the man. I met him at an event that Biotest sent me to! He is a straight shooter, awesome guy, and really genuinely cares about his clients. I’d def hire him before anyone else.

Also, wanted to say good work in here. You have very impressive bench and dead numbers. I was curious as to your goals though? I’m not an expert, but I don’t understand why you work in such high reps on compound movements. I’ve been starting off each session with a ‘strength’ movement in which I perform a complex lift (inc bench, DL, squat, mil press) in the 3-6 rep range,then moving on to hypertrophy/assistance exercises.

Wednesday 8/24/11

Lat Pulldown: 8x160, 8x170, 8x180, 5x190, 6x200
60 sec rest

Neutral Grip Cable Row: 8x180, 8x190, 8x200, 20x140
60 sec rest

Alt. Sets:
DB Hammer Curl: 3x8x40, 12x40 (last 4 cheat)
Straight Arm Pulldown: 3x8x90, 12x90
30-45 sec rest between

Seated Calf Raise: 10x45, 10x55, 10x65, 10x75, 10x85
60 sec rest

Standing Calf Raise: 5x8x90 (SLOW, about 3 sec concentric, 3 sec eccentric…ouch)
60 sec rest

[quote]hlss09 wrote:
are you doint a lean gains diet where your goal is to get bigger? Either way, Shelby is the man. I met him at an event that Biotest sent me to! He is a straight shooter, awesome guy, and really genuinely cares about his clients. I’d def hire him before anyone else.

Also, wanted to say good work in here. You have very impressive bench and dead numbers. I was curious as to your goals though? I’m not an expert, but I don’t understand why you work in such high reps on compound movements. I’ve been starting off each session with a ‘strength’ movement in which I perform a complex lift (inc bench, DL, squat, mil press) in the 3-6 rep range,then moving on to hypertrophy/assistance exercises. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure Shelby is after lean gains with me. I’ll being eating a minimal caloric surplus to start. Alot of people I know keep telling me I’ve wasted my money, so it’s nice to get some support in here =) I’d like to get to 230 at 15% body fat. I believe that would set me up perfectly to hit 200 8% body fat…when I’d like to start fitness modeling.

I’m just following 5/3/1 on the big 4. I think the number of reps I’m hitting is higher than typical atm, but I imagine months down the road these will slowly drop off and it will become quite the challenge to hit the requisite reps. I hope they stay this high though!

Just a sample of my first day of eating:

Meal 1: Metabolic Drive bar, fat free greek yogurt, almond butter, rice cake

Meal 2: chicken, bell peppers, onions, rice cakes, almond butter

Meal 3: chicken, bell peppers, onions, scoop of whey, rice

Peri workout: 2 Finibars, 2 scoops MAG-10, 1 Metabolic Drive bar (this is NOT protocol prescribed by shelby, but I don’t have everything I need yet)

Meal 4: Turkey burger, spinach, rice, hot sauce, mustard, coconut milk + whey

Meal 5: 5 omega 3 eggs

Bed time: 5g fish oil, 2600mg primrose oil

Boring diet is boring…

I would like to point out that when it comes to diet, this is THE VERY FIRST TIME, I’ve ever counted macros.

you should get on the Virgin Coconut Oil bandwagon. Seriously. Look up some of John Meadows’ stuff about Medium Chain Triglycerides and Coconut Oil. Mountain Dog Diet, look it up!

[quote]hlss09 wrote:
you should get on the Virgin Coconut Oil bandwagon. Seriously. Look up some of John Meadows’ stuff about Medium Chain Triglycerides and Coconut Oil. Mountain Dog Diet, look it up! [/quote]

Excellent. I can throw that into one of my shakes as my fat source. Almond butter is great, but not with every meal…lol.

Glad to hear youve started with Shelby, your diet does look quite different already. Especially the workout nutrition.

If people tell you your wasting your money then they just dont have the same passion for this that you do, its important too you so everyone else can kindly get f**ked.

Anyway dude, Im sure youll hit your goals dead on and im rooting for ya.

[quote]Oregand wrote:
Glad to hear youve started with Shelby, your diet does look quite different already. Especially the workout nutrition.[/quote]

Really? I mean I see workout changing, but other than that not too much. Maybe you’re just not used to seeing me eat like such a bodybuilder, lol.

[quote]
If people tell you your wasting your money then they just dont have the same passion for this that you do, its important too you so everyone else can kindly get f**ked.[/quote]

Harsh dude! They just can’t relate is all. I’ve learned not to get defensive though, so that’s a plus. I have nothing to defend. I try to change the subject as soon as possible.

I sure hope so. I’ve been very dedicated and precise with my training. Time to follow suit with the eats. Thanks for the support as always.

ALOT of new stuff going on in my world of training and dieting, so hopefully you understand my hiatus from answering all your questions atm. Plus, I honestly think I’ve pushed you in the right direction as much as I can. Nothing more to it but to do it.

I’ll recommend buying “Maximum Strength” from Cressey, just for his pages on a proper warm up.

What the hell. Here’s my initial pics I sent over to Shelby on 8/23/11.

As I like to do, they are taken in the morning (so no pump) with no flexing. What you see is what you get. If only more guys had the courage to post up some shots without their favorite lighting/flexing pose/insane pump after 40 min of arm training =/


8/23/11 Front


8/23/11 Back

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]Oregand wrote:
Glad to hear youve started with Shelby, your diet does look quite different already. Especially the workout nutrition.[/quote]

[quote]
Really? I mean I see workout changing, but other than that not too much. Maybe you’re just not used to seeing me eat like such a bodybuilder, lol. [/quote]

Obviously not dude, Lol! I never thought id see the day when you started counting Kcals, my whole world just did a 360.

Friday 8/26/11

OHP: top set 7x160 (YES!)

DB Incline: 6x60, 6x65, 6x70, 6x75, 6x80, 7x85
60-75 sec rest

Complex: 4 rounds 6-10 reps
DB Lat Raise: 8,6,6,10x25
Seated Face Pull: 4x10x80
DB Front Raise: 6,6,6,10x30

Sunday 8/28/11

Box Squat: top set 10x325

BB Reverse Lunge: 8x155, 8x165, 6x175, 8x185
60 sec rest

BB Hip Thrust: 6x245, 6x275, 6x295, 6x315
60 sec rest

Superset:
Cable Wood Chop: 3x10x150
Plank: 2x1 min