NO Explode vs. Surge

I dunno, I hear a lot of good things about SWF.

But, looking at the ingredients it doens’t look like the magical supplement it’s being touted as.

Lots of anecdotal evidence (which is fine), but then when NO Xplode gets bashed for anecdotal evidence people ask for studies.

I’m not hating on SWF, just looking at the big picture.

And, who knows, if I used SWF more than once, maybe I would be signing a different tune.

But with my current stack, doesn’t leave much money to add in SWF :frowning:

[quote]bpeloquin wrote:

Have any of you actually used the Surge Workout Fuel ? [/quote]

#1 USE THE goddam search bar and dont’ just create a new thread for every thought/question/comment that pops into your goddam head.

Why the hell am I saying this?

This is post #1,984,001 about NO products.

oh, that’s not it…

You went ahead and ask the question I quoted too. There are 10-20 DEDICATED threads to peoples f*cking experience with SWF. I’m sure there are at LEAST 1-2 on the front page right now.

So I come back to my original point. Actually, you go back and read #1.

You will save yourself a lot of time and “flaming” and save us a lot of time too.

Goddam kids are f*cking retarded.

[quote]B rocK wrote:
bpeloquin wrote:

Have any of you actually used the Surge Workout Fuel ?

#1 USE THE goddam search bar and dont’ just create a new thread for every thought/question/comment that pops into your goddam head.

Why the hell am I saying this?

This is post #1,984,001 about NO products.

oh, that’s not it…

You went ahead and ask the question I quoted too. There are 10-20 DEDICATED threads to peoples f*cking experience with SWF. I’m sure there are at LEAST 1-2 on the front page right now.

So I come back to my original point. Actually, you go back and read #1.

You will save yourself a lot of time and “flaming” and save us a lot of time too.

Goddam kids are f*cking retarded.[/quote]

I co-sign this message.

Waffles = Surge
Pancakes = NO explode

Waffles FTW!

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I dunno, I hear a lot of good things about SWF.

But, looking at the ingredients it doens’t look like the magical supplement it’s being touted as.

Lots of anecdotal evidence (which is fine), but then when NO Xplode gets bashed for anecdotal evidence people ask for studies.

I’m not hating on SWF, just looking at the big picture.

And, who knows, if I used SWF more than once, maybe I would be signing a different tune.

But with my current stack, doesn’t leave much money to add in SWF :([/quote]

Hijackage! What’s your current stack and do you have a pre/peri WO drink that you like already?

B rock

I appreciate your advice. I will do a little bit more research next time before I post a thread. I’m sorta new to this site, but thanks for the heads up. Sorry these topics get you all so heated.

Jehovasfit, I’m gonna probably checkout Surge Workout Fuel, thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.

[quote]phatkins187 wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
I dunno, I hear a lot of good things about SWF.

But, looking at the ingredients it doens’t look like the magical supplement it’s being touted as.

Lots of anecdotal evidence (which is fine), but then when NO Xplode gets bashed for anecdotal evidence people ask for studies.

I’m not hating on SWF, just looking at the big picture.

And, who knows, if I used SWF more than once, maybe I would be signing a different tune.

But with my current stack, doesn’t leave much money to add in SWF :frowning:

Hijackage! What’s your current stack and do you have a pre/peri WO drink that you like already?[/quote]

Standard stuff right now Surge, ZMA, Flameout

Just started Receptormax and will be starting a MAG-10/11-T cycle soon while continuing Receptormax

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I dunno, I hear a lot of good things about SWF.

But, looking at the ingredients it doens’t look like the magical supplement it’s being touted as.

Lots of anecdotal evidence (which is fine), but then when NO Xplode gets bashed for anecdotal evidence people ask for studies.

I’m not hating on SWF, just looking at the big picture.

And, who knows, if I used SWF more than once, maybe I would be signing a different tune.

But with my current stack, doesn’t leave much money to add in SWF :([/quote]

Not a dig, but didn’t you recently say that your training intensity isn’t very high?

If so, I’m not surprised that you didn’t experience a big difference with it. It’s not like I feel it while sitting on the bench. At least for me, it’s all about what it allows me to do when I push myself to the max.

[quote]HK24719 wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
I dunno, I hear a lot of good things about SWF.

But, looking at the ingredients it doens’t look like the magical supplement it’s being touted as.

Lots of anecdotal evidence (which is fine), but then when NO Xplode gets bashed for anecdotal evidence people ask for studies.

I’m not hating on SWF, just looking at the big picture.

And, who knows, if I used SWF more than once, maybe I would be signing a different tune.

But with my current stack, doesn’t leave much money to add in SWF :frowning:

Not a dig, but didn’t you recently say that your training intensity isn’t very high?

If so, I’m not surprised that you didn’t experience a big difference with it. It’s not like I feel it while sitting on the bench. At least for me, it’s all about what it allows me to do when I push myself to the max.[/quote]

Not taken as a dig at all. That’s why I always am upfront with my workouts. Don’t get me wrong, they’re tough, but they’re only 30 mins roughly as well with resting 60-90 secs between sets.

Again, if I were doing supersets, Giant sets, or maybe HIIT, then yeah, I’d probably see more benefit from it, or the desire to give it another shot.
I’ll save it for cutting.

[quote]bpeloquin wrote:
B rock

I appreciate your advice. I will do a little bit more research next time before I post a thread. I’m sorta new to this site, but thanks for the heads up. Sorry these topics get you all so heated.

Jehovasfit, I’m gonna probably checkout Surge Workout Fuel, thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.

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I think it would be safe to bet that Surge Workout Fuel would be a waste of money in your case - no offense (and it IS expensive). Most people even here fit into this category. And it doesn’t neccessarily mean that they are ‘not working hard enough’. It just means that they probably wouldn’t notice a worthwile difference that makes up for the price tag.
Surge is not a ‘post workout drink’. In Berardi’s original formulas (and these were not rock solid, but highly customisable) he recommended consumption pre, peri and post workout with creatine added post workout. Remember that this guy was the major formulator of Surge.
Yes if you are an elite athelete and small changes are the only ones you have left then fine, Surge Workout Fuel could be do a wolrd of good for you. But for 99.9% of the population, it won’t.

[quote]Grey Rainbow wrote:
I think it would be safe to bet that Surge Workout Fuel would be a waste of money in your case - no offense (and it IS expensive). Most people even here fit into this category. And it doesn’t neccessarily mean that they are ‘not working hard enough’. It just means that they probably wouldn’t notice a worthwile difference that makes up for the price tag.
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I couldn’t disagree more.

I’m no pro athlete, but I do take my training seriously and push myself as hard as possible and I see a significant difference with Surge Workout Fuel. As I’ve stated before, it’s made a bigger difference for me than any other supplement I’ve used.

I’ve also used Surge Recovery before and during training in the past and can say that Surge Workout Fuel works much better for me during these times. My ability to train at a high level throughout my workout is noticeably higher with Surge Workout Fuel. I also find that I recover faster within and between workouts while using it.

I recommend trying it before giving recommendations on it.

[quote]Grey Rainbow wrote:
bpeloquin wrote:
B rock

I appreciate your advice. I will do a little bit more research next time before I post a thread. I’m sorta new to this site, but thanks for the heads up. Sorry these topics get you all so heated.

Jehovasfit, I’m gonna probably checkout Surge Workout Fuel, thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.

I think it would be safe to bet that Surge Workout Fuel would be a waste of money in your case - no offense (and it IS expensive). Most people even here fit into this category. And it doesn’t neccessarily mean that they are ‘not working hard enough’. It just means that they probably wouldn’t notice a worthwile difference that makes up for the price tag.
Surge is not a ‘post workout drink’. In Berardi’s original formulas (and these were not rock solid, but highly customisable) he recommended consumption pre, peri and post workout with creatine added post workout. Remember that this guy was the major formulator of Surge.
Yes if you are an elite athelete and small changes are the only ones you have left then fine, Surge Workout Fuel could be do a wolrd of good for you. But for 99.9% of the population, it won’t.
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Wow. Why develop a product for .1% of the population? I am going to try the Surge Workout Fuel soon. I don’t beleive it to be to expensive, seeing as most people I know slam some redbulls or the like before going to the gym. That shit adds up.

I wish they had a smaller size to try, but it’s all good. I also wish the economy didn’t suck, because then I’d have more money right now.

Much appreciated feedback guys.

Let me know how it works out for ya, Seven.

It is a “small size.” I got mine in the mail today and it’s half the size of a Surge Recovery bottle. It has 30 small scoop servings. My workouts are intense but rarely last longer than 1 hour so I’m only going to be taking 1 scoop. 30 workouts should last me two months…so $25 a month, not bad at all!

[quote]HK24719 wrote:
Grey Rainbow wrote:
I think it would be safe to bet that Surge Workout Fuel would be a waste of money in your case - no offense (and it IS expensive). Most people even here fit into this category. And it doesn’t neccessarily mean that they are ‘not working hard enough’. It just means that they probably wouldn’t notice a worthwile difference that makes up for the price tag.

I couldn’t disagree more.

I’m no pro athlete, but I do take my training seriously and push myself as hard as possible and I see a significant difference with Surge Workout Fuel. As I’ve stated before, it’s made a bigger difference for me than any other supplement I’ve used.

I’ve also used Surge Recovery before and during training in the past and can say that Surge Workout Fuel works much better for me during these times. My ability to train at a high level throughout my workout is noticeably higher with Surge Workout Fuel. I also find that I recover faster within and between workouts while using it.

I recommend trying it before giving recommendations on it.[/quote]

I never said you needed to be a pro to consume Surge Workout Fuel. For people such as yourself, it may be a great idea. Just not for an outright beginner. Similar to this: you have a game of squash without every picking a squash racquet up in your life. The racquet you used in the game could have been shit, or it could have been worth $300. Chances are the difference between the two would hardly make a noticeable difference to your performance. (Or at least not enough to beat the price difference)

[quote]sevenmoist wrote:
Grey Rainbow wrote:
bpeloquin wrote:
B rock

I appreciate your advice. I will do a little bit more research next time before I post a thread. I’m sorta new to this site, but thanks for the heads up. Sorry these topics get you all so heated.

Jehovasfit, I’m gonna probably checkout Surge Workout Fuel, thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.

I think it would be safe to bet that Surge Workout Fuel would be a waste of money in your case - no offense (and it IS expensive). Most people even here fit into this category. And it doesn’t neccessarily mean that they are ‘not working hard enough’. It just means that they probably wouldn’t notice a worthwile difference that makes up for the price tag.
Surge is not a ‘post workout drink’. In Berardi’s original formulas (and these were not rock solid, but highly customisable) he recommended consumption pre, peri and post workout with creatine added post workout. Remember that this guy was the major formulator of Surge.
Yes if you are an elite athelete and small changes are the only ones you have left then fine, Surge Workout Fuel could be do a wolrd of good for you. But for 99.9% of the population, it won’t.

Wow. Why develop a product for .1% of the population? I am going to try the Surge Workout Fuel soon. I don’t beleive it to be to expensive, seeing as most people I know slam some redbulls or the like before going to the gym. That shit adds up.
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The whole of T-Nation (not to mention the people who actually lift) doesn’t even come close to making up .1% of the population.
And I would say that if you are working out six days a week that Surge Workout Fuel (and possibly Surge Recovery) would empty your wallet pretty damn quick.

[quote]phatkins187 wrote:
It is a “small size.” I got mine in the mail today and it’s half the size of a Surge Recovery bottle. It has 30 small scoop servings. My workouts are intense but rarely last longer than 1 hour so I’m only going to be taking 1 scoop. 30 workouts should last me two months…so $25 a month, not bad at all![/quote]

It’s recommended to do 1 scoop per 1/2 hr training.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
phatkins187 wrote:
It is a “small size.” I got mine in the mail today and it’s half the size of a Surge Recovery bottle. It has 30 small scoop servings. My workouts are intense but rarely last longer than 1 hour so I’m only going to be taking 1 scoop. 30 workouts should last me two months…so $25 a month, not bad at all!

It’s recommended to do 1 scoop per 1/2 hr training.[/quote]

Damn…well I’m going to lift heavy weights fast…er. :slight_smile:

[quote]If you’re just hitting fifteen pound tricep kickbacks and 60 pounds on the lat pull down for a few reps you probably don’t need Surge and can buy that other crap.

D[/quote]

Someone has been studying my monday heavy day.

[quote]horsepuss wrote:
If you’re just hitting fifteen pound tricep kickbacks and 60 pounds on the lat pull down for a few reps you probably don’t need Surge and can buy that other crap.

D

Someone has been studying my monday heavy day.[/quote]

Haha, always looking for good routines I am.

D