[quote]Padilla7921 wrote:
cain06 wrote:
Why is this even debated? Is drinking water that tiresome for anyone?
I read a few of the posts after this specific one and I just don’t seem to follow their logic. What’s the big deal with drinking water throughout the day? It’s not pointless, as someone put it. Your body composition is 75-80% water, so why would you not want to give your body what it’s made of?[/quote]
for the same reason i don’t tape extra hair to my head i guess
Ummm…well when you’re trying to gain muscle, it IS a bad idea to wait until you’re hungry to eat your next meal.
[quote]oli1a wrote:
i mean its like saying “when you are hungry, you are already starving, so why not eat non stop?”
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[quote]Fiction wrote:
that does not mean that we ought to be drinking gallons of water. [/quote]
gallon <> gallons
[quote]Beatnik wrote:
Lonnie Lowery (who hasnt written much lately 
) wrote a nice article on this topic on this site:
http://www.T-Nation.com/article/diet_and_nutrition/precious_bodily_fluids&cr=
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Thanks, the article was interesting, though it was mainly about dehydration when training in the heat.
He did mention that sweating increases with conditioning. In the past when I only lifted, I didn’t sweat very much. I now walk every day and hike 3 days a week, and I am in much better condition now and sweat more, so maybe that’s true.
[quote]beebuddy wrote:
So, what’s the best way for a hardgainer to supplement with this stuff?[/quote]
You should probably taper into it… Wouldn’t want to fry your endocrine system to death.
As with most things its all relative. If its the week b4 a show then you drink up to 3 gallons aday to get your body into a flushing mode. But this is a rare thing.
But as has been stated…why not drink as much water as you can? In the Army we do whats called “force hydration”. Weather you just got done with canteen or not if your CO or PS say drink then you pull out a full canteen and down the hole thing right there. The reason for this is (also as has been said) you dont know when your dehydrated till you are already there. I have seen ppl fine one min. and then on their ass the next.
As a famous person once said…
“Its the dehydration coach…”
For some reason, I could never buy into this whole hype about drinking lots of water. It seemed to assume that our bodies are inherently defective and do not know how and when to replenish their own water reserve. What a bunch of stupid bullshit.
I drink when at least one of these things become true:
Often, I will drink some fluids even when I’m not thirsty. E.g., I drink a lot of green tea at the office.
So, in the end, I probably do drink more than my body is telling me to, but definitely not the hyped up amounts that everyone seemed to be raving about until now.
I’m glad to see some sane ideas making a comeback.
EDIT: By the way, I’m speaking from the perspective of a sedentary person (I’m taking a break for a while, for health reasons). I do believe that physically active people should drink more water than what seems to be the bare necessity. E.g., drink some water before you even start sweating. But that’s just common sense. Still, it’s hard to justify the gallon(s) that some people mention, unless we’re talking about some pretty extreme combination of effort and environment conditions.
Snopes: bathroom wall of the internet
[quote]Envision wrote:
Snopes: bathroom wall of the internet[/quote]
I’m sure I could find the same information on a different website. Would that make you feel better?
As regards to the clear pee method. I drink over a gallon of water of day and pee often and my urine is still yellow. I believe to my multi-vitamins, thats what i have heard anyway
[quote]Fiction wrote:
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Headaches also are often attributed to water deprivation, but there is little data to back this up, claim the scientists.
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I get a headache when I don’t drink enough water. If the say there is little data then they haven’t looked or done a study.
Another worthless so called study.
[quote]oli1a wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
gi2eg wrote:
I just thought of something that’s really advanced, so prep yourselves…
drink when you’re thirsty
actually, by the time thirst signals are sent, you’re already dehydrated.
but, yes if you’re thirsty you should drink 
thats a mygh. do you really think your body is that stupid? i mean its like saying “when you are hungry, you are already starving, so why not eat non stop?”
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Not a myth.
[quote]cain06 wrote:
Why is this even debated? Is drinking water that tiresome for anyone?
Are there definite problems with not drinking enough? Yes. Are there any problems with drinking a gallon a day? No. So drink your gallon and shuddup.
Water is calorie free so who cares if you go over your “necessary” intake.[/quote]
I think a gallon is overkill. I drink 2 liters of water at work plus a couple cups of tea and a glass at home. Probably total just under 3/4 of a gallon. This keeps me well hydrated and my pee clear. If I drink more I pee far too often. If I drink significantly less I get a headache.
I started getting in more water (8+ glasses) my feet turned warm… Usually my feet are FREEZING, but surprisingly they were warmer
[quote]ahzaz wrote:
I started getting in more water (8+ glasses) my feet turned warm… Usually my feet are FREEZING, but surprisingly they were warmer[/quote]
Bad circulation…you were probably on the edge of dangerously dehydrated, the blood thickens.
[quote]oli1a wrote:
what a coincidence that the required amount is EXACTLY the american unit of volume? :[/quote]
Yeah, funny how that works…
the 8 glasses a day thing is based on the “average” person, which many of us here do not directly correlate with. Der. In my classes (i’m pursing to be a dietician), there are equations that we can use to determine a range of how much water a person has based on how much protein they take in, their age, their weight, etc. Many of these levels can be different for any person. So, technically it is not really a load of BS, but it can be a general guideline for those people that don’t know the difference between 20 g of fat in a snickers bar and 20g a fat from flax seed oil.
As for the equations that can be used, it is often used for Medical Nutrition Therapy and related things.
Maybe its all in my head but I feel bloated and weak when I dont drink enough water. It keeps me energized and feeling good. I guess its all in my head then.
Either way, it cant be “bad” for you. Plus with all the protein that we take in, isnt water kind of a necessity to help your kidneys out???
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Fiction wrote:
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Headaches also are often attributed to water deprivation, but there is little data to back this up, claim the scientists.
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I get a headache when I don’t drink enough water. If the say there is little data then they haven’t looked or done a study.
Another worthless so called study.[/quote]
Water deprivation has been shown to induce headaches. For example in the study below. There are a few more studies out there, as well as a couple that are in the process of being published that also show this.