Yeah the full fat 4% is just amazing. The diff between skim and whole milk really. Glad you like it. And yeah that extra fat is filling and it sticks with you.
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3mg. I just went with the NOW brandâŠ
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YAUD5DU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I use to take like 12 mg a day, for my SHBG, but I think if I incorporate it again I will go with a low dose of 3mg a day, like was suggested by physio.
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This doesnât have strong anti estrogen properties does it? Havenât researched much on it yet.
Would be interesting to see if there was any change to your E2. That is my only reservation to starting it.
HaâŠyou both posted E2 issues at the same time. Im not sure. I thought I read both anti and pro properties.
Ive only been taking it for maybe 3 weeks. Bloods were taken Friday but I dont have a before and after with my current protocol. I am assuming E2 will be over 100.
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Ok thanks for being our lab rat.
Do you use nonsensetive test?
I think there were studies that showed both like you said. I saw one say that it increased e2 moderately, and another states that it greatly reduced circulating E2. SO???
I thought I had a bottle at home, but I guess ill have to pick it up.
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I suspect constipation where the crap is hard ASF affects e2 levels. Someone on here said it too. When the crap sits in the intestine the body may be reabsorbing the estrogens.
Ik itâs only a single variable. Just saying.
I believe (not sure) I crashed my e2 when I started taking citrucel tabs ( bulk forming fiber).
Am not sure because I switched to im at the same time. But I donât think after 1 im shot it would crash. This was more of a gradual decrease in e2
I guess I could see that. Never had that problem.
Not sure if this directly correlates but this study found that women drinking semi-skimmed milk (1.5%) had an E2 response to it where as drinking whole milk they did not.
Interesting. Have been eating a lot of Low fat cottage cheese, soâŠ
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Boron balances hormones and allows magnesium to work. Itâs crucial. Itâs about way more than shbg guys.
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So magnesium and boron. What dose for the mag? Anything else ?
@enackers doesnât defy have all the answers lol?
Use 400 mg glycinate for 10 days.
Apply topical magnesium to legs every night forever. Youâll thank me in a month.
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Well that sounds nice. I do epsom salt foot baths once a week for like 30 mins. Its multi purpose and makes me feel like a special little lady.
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@physioLojik Any one in particular that you like/trust? This is in place of Mag Glyc at bedtime?
In case he doesnât respond.
It sounds to me to front load with glycinate for 10 days. Then stop that and start/continue cream or oil on skin.
I personally rather continue taking the glycinate. After all itâs the highly absorbable form of mg.
My wife was actually able to stop ranitidine for acid and replaced with mg glycinate at night.
I like the pure encapsulation brand. We did the KAL brand but read of impurities in that product.
Just remembered I did have oil form. Just became a pain the ass to put on on a regular basis. Better for as needed.
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Results from Fridayâs draw. This is just over 6 weeks on the protocol of 60mg EOD (210mg a week). No AI, etc. No noticeable sides aside from ejac volume which always seems to happen when my E2 gets high. Will see if that improves as body adjusts further. BP has maintained around 125/68 for a while now.
Cholesterol dropped by 37 points to 149. Ten of those HDL which I dont like to see but 27 in LDL is good I suppose. Iâd like to see my total closer to 200 (I remember that being a healthy number for some reason). Triglycerides dropped to 94 from 127 which is also good.
IGF is at 241 which is up from 206 in September. DHEA is down to 211 from 267 which is opposite the direction Iâd thought it would go after being on pregnenolone for the last 3 weeks. Im not sure this qualifies as low though. But if it does it could explain why I am tired most of the time since low DHEA is associated with fatigue. @physioLojik thoughts on this? Will the tamoxifenâs effect on LH/FSH help backfill pathways and aid this?
Not sure what to make of the Absolute Monocytes. They were 739 in September and now âhighâ at 1070. Currently not ill but still pain and inflamation in knee that I am working through
Total Test: 1998 (250-1100 ng/dL)
Free Test: 457.5 (35 - 155)
Estradiol,ultrasensitive, LC/MS: 96 (< OR=29 pg/mL)
Hematocrit: 43.6 (38.5 - 50)
TSH: 1.29 (0.40-4.50)
PSA: .6 (< or = 4.0)
Test Name Result Flag Reference Range Lab
FASTING:YES
FASTING: YES
LIPID PANEL, STANDARD
CHOLESTEROL, TOTAL 149 NORMAL <200 mg/dL 01
HDL CHOLESTEROL 41 NORMAL >40 mg/dL 01
TRIGLYCERIDES 94 NORMAL <150 mg/dL 01
LDL-CHOLESTEROL 89 NORMAL mg/dL 01
Reference range: <100
CHOL/HDLC RATIO 3.6 NORMAL <5.0 01
NON HDL CHOLESTEROL 108 NORMAL <130 mg/dL 01
.
COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL
UREA NITROGEN (BUN) 16 NORMAL 7-25 mg/dL 01
CREATININE 1.10 NORMAL 0.60-1.35 mg/dL 01
eGFR NON-AFR. AMERICAN 80 NORMAL > OR = 60 mL/min/1 01
eGFR AFRICAN AMERICAN 92 NORMAL > OR = 60 mL/min/1 01
BUN/CREATININE RATIO NOT APPLICABLE NORMAL 6-22 01
SODIUM 136 NORMAL 135-146 mmol/L 01
POTASSIUM 4.7 NORMAL 3.5-5.3 mmol/L 01
CHLORIDE 101 NORMAL 98-110 mmol/L 01
CARBON DIOXIDE 25 NORMAL 20-32 mmol/L 01
CALCIUM 9.6 NORMAL 8.6-10.3 mg/dL 01
PROTEIN, TOTAL 7.0 NORMAL 6.1-8.1 g/dL 01
ALBUMIN 4.5 NORMAL 3.6-5.1 g/dL 01
GLOBULIN 2.5 NORMAL 1.9-3.7 g/dL 01
ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO 1.8 NORMAL 1.0-2.5 01
BILIRUBIN, TOTAL 1.0 NORMAL 0.2-1.2 mg/dL 01
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 50 NORMAL 40-115 U/L 01
AST 32 NORMAL 10-40 U/L 01
ALT 27 NORMAL 9-46 U/L 01
IGF 1, LC/MS 241 NORMAL 52-328 ng/mL 02
Z SCORE (MALE) 1.2 NORMAL -2.0 - +2.0 SD 02
CBC (INCLUDES DIFF/PLT)
WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT 10.0 NORMAL 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL 01
RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 4.95 NORMAL 4.20-5.80 Million/uL 01
HEMOGLOBIN 14.9 NORMAL 13.2-17.1 g/dL 01
HEMATOCRIT 43.6 NORMAL 38.5-50.0 01
MCV 88.1 NORMAL 80.0-100.0 fL 01
MCH 30.1 NORMAL 27.0-33.0 pg 01
MCHC 34.2 NORMAL 32.0-36.0 g/dL 01
RDW 11.8 NORMAL 11.0-15.0 01
PLATELET COUNT 345 NORMAL 140-400 Thousand/uL 01 (genetic and Im a donor)
MPV 9.8 NORMAL 7.5-12.5 fL 01
ABSOLUTE NEUTROPHILS 6670 NORMAL 1500-7800 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR NORMAL 0-750 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE METAMYELOCYTES DNR NORMAL 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE MYELOCYTES DNR NORMAL 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE PROMYELOCYTES DNR NORMAL 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE LYMPHOCYTES 2030 NORMAL 850-3900 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES 1070 HIGH 200-950 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE EOSINOPHILS 190 NORMAL 15-500 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE BASOPHILS 40 NORMAL 0-200 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE BLASTS DNR NORMAL 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE NUCLEATED RBC DNR NORMAL 0 cells/uL 01
NEUTROPHILS 66.7 NORMAL 01
BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR NORMAL 01
METAMYELOCYTES DNR NORMAL 01
MYELOCYTES DNR NORMAL 01
PROMYELOCYTES DNR NORMAL 01
LYMPHOCYTES 20.3 NORMAL 01
REACTIVE LYMPHOCYTES DNR NORMAL 0-10 01
MONOCYTES 10.7 NORMAL 01
EOSINOPHILS 1.9 NORMAL 01
BASOPHILS 0.4 NORMAL 01
BLASTS DNR NORMAL 01
NUCLEATED RBC DNR NORMAL 0 /100 01
COMMENT(S) DNR NORMAL 01
ESTRADIOL,ULTRASENSITIVE, LC/MS 96 HIGH < OR = 29 pg/mL 02
DHEA SULFATE 211 NORMAL 70-495 mcg/dL 01
DHEA-S values fall with advancing age.
For reference, the reference intervals for 31-40 year
old patients are:
Male: 106-464 mcg/dL
TSH 1.29 NORMAL 0.40-4.50 mIU/L 01
PSA, TOTAL 0.6 NORMAL < OR = 4.0 ng/mL 01
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MS 1998 HIGH 250-1100 ng/dL 03
TESTOSTERONE, FREE 457.5 HIGH 35.0-155.0 pg/mL 03
@anon10035199 @physioLojik @unreal24278 @charlie12
I dont have any âplansâ at this point. I am growing and getting leaner (albeit both slowly) and feel pretty good minus the fatigue. I will have to drop my dose back down for endo bloods in late July for a few weeks. I did start 20mg tamoxifen with Tcyp shots to see if some natural production comes back a bit for LH and FSH and maybe help with all those other pathways.
Any thoughts or concerns? Am I wasting my time at this level or are there benefits to sitting here instead of 1000? I canât justify the increase based solely on feeling because I dont feel significantly different than I did @ TT 1965 dosing 90mg twice a week.
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