Agree about Hunt, not a 1st rounder and he is a project.
I dont know about that trade. The DL is deep in this draft and we could get a quality center/guard. But that is only if we pick up Eric Winston out of FA. We need a right tackle bad.
What about another WR for 49rs?
I just hope the Saints can find a secondary. And God I hope that they don’t think Jonathon Banks is the answer. Kid was overrated this year and I think the combine and other workouts brought that out.
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I just hope the Saints can find a secondary. And God I hope that they don’t think Jonathon Banks is the answer. Kid was overrated this year and I think the combine and other workouts brought that out.[/quote]
You got to be excited about having your coach back and locked up for a few more years
Definitely, last year was miserable but the secondary has been bad for a long time now and they never seem to do anything to make it better.
I honestly don’t follow NCAA ball so draft stuff goes over my head. I know what we need but I sure as shit don’t know the names to put where.
“What are the Seahawks going to do during the first round of this year’s NFL Draft?”
“GM John Schneider says they may all just sit there and watch Percy Harvin highlights.”
I am going to enjoy this upcoming season.
SEPTEMBER 15 HAWKS VS. 49ERS. WE GON BET ON THIS DB!
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/John-Schneider-preparing-for-an-unprecedented-first-day-of-NFL-Draft/48b390ed-a8f7-4a39-8a0d-04be27ca5035
“What are the Seahawks going to do during the first round of this year’s NFL Draft?”
“GM John Schneider says they may all just sit there and watch Percy Harvin highlights.”
I am going to enjoy this upcoming season.
SEPTEMBER 15 HAWKS VS. 49ERS. WE GON BET ON THIS DB![/quote]
Only if we also bet on the next matchup, and every time the Niners square off against the Seagulls.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/John-Schneider-preparing-for-an-unprecedented-first-day-of-NFL-Draft/48b390ed-a8f7-4a39-8a0d-04be27ca5035
“What are the Seahawks going to do during the first round of this year’s NFL Draft?”
“GM John Schneider says they may all just sit there and watch Percy Harvin highlights.”
I am going to enjoy this upcoming season.
SEPTEMBER 15 HAWKS VS. 49ERS. WE GON BET ON THIS DB![/quote]
Only if we also bet on the next matchup, and every time the Niners square off against the Seagulls.[/quote]
Of course. Best 2 out of 3 if we count NFC Championship 
I just wish Pat would grow a pair and place an avatar on the line for the Niners/Falcons game in the 'Stick in Week 16. The Falcons are gonna get fucking murdered out here in December.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I think this might be predicated on the Niners being convinced that Kenny Vaccarro will be available at #18. I can’t see them moving up to grab anyone else at a position of need that won’t be available in later rounds. I don’t like the safety as much as everyone else seems to. The Niners need someone at both strong and free safety, but more so at free safety, and Vaccarro has by far the best coverage skills of the free safeties likely to go in the first two rounds.
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Hadn’t seen this but its def interesting.
Assuming they stand pat, my best-case scenario* has the Rams coming away with both Vaccarro and WR-Austin (picks 16, 22) in Round 1. Next thursday can’t come soon enough…
*completely clouded by ESPN’s pre-draft hype machine
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Agree about Hunt, not a 1st rounder and he is a project.
I dont know about that trade. The DL is deep in this draft and we could get a quality center/guard. But that is only if we pick up Eric Winston out of FA. We need a right tackle bad.
What about another WR for 49rs? [/quote]
I don’t think they’ll go with another receiver unless it’s on the third day of the draft. They’re pretty much set at that position for now. Crabtree has really come into his own the last two years and is probably the best receiver in the NFL at running after the catch. And he has incredible hands. Boldin should be a pretty serviceable #2 and, while the combination of him and Crabtree aren’t going to stretch the field with their speed that much, Boldin is a legitimate red zone threat, something they’ve kind of lacked at the receiver position since TO left.
Manningham’s rehab is coming along ahead of schedule by all accounts, and I think he has enough speed to create some mismatches against third cornerbacks. Same goes for Kyle Williams, who has near-elite speed.
The real wild card in all of this is last year’s 1st rounder, AJ Jenkins. He has elite speed and while he isn’t big, he’s still about 6’0" and 195 lbs, which I think makes him a bit bigger than Manningham, who he’s also faster than, and he’s just about as fast as Williams but much bigger than him.
I don’t think they have anyone who really scares opposing defenses all that much, other than Crabtree, but they have enough talent there to feature some quality receivers with really good speed any time they go to a three or four receiver look.
I think the offensive position they should really address in this draft is the RB position and TE. They’re pretty big on Ertz and Harbaugh knows him well after recruiting him at Stanford a few years back. I think if Ertz drops into the 2nd round he’ll be a 49er.
I’m not sure how the Niners feel about him, but I’m fucking convinced that Stepfan Taylor out of Stanford is going to be a very, very good RB in the NFL. Gore isn’t getting younger, and while he probably still has at least another high-quality year in him, it can’t hurt to have another back waiting to replace him. Hunter and James aren’t every-down backs and Taylor looks like he definitely can be. He’s 5’11" and about 215, runs hard between the tackles and has enough speed to get outside. He doesn’t have breakaway speed, but he’s shifty and seems to always fall forward when he gets hit, which is exactly how Gore runs.
Although I don’t think there’s ever been a runner in the NFL who runs as low and as tough as Gore does. I’ve literally NEVER seen Gore get walloped and I’ve certainly never seen him get knocked backward on a hit unless he was blindsided on some bullshit pass out into the flat.
And Taylor looks like he has a lot of those same qualities, albeit with a different build. Gore is probably the best pass-blocking RB in the NFL right now and Taylor has shown himself to be very good in that respect as well. So I think he could easily be a suitable replacement and will be there in the 3rd round.
Another RB that the Niners should/might take is Lattimore. His injury history is going to cause him to drop into the second day, but he has first-round talent and the Niners are in a position to be able to select him even a little earlier than expected and stash him away for a year to rehab and learn the offense. They certainly don’t a back to come in and play a lot right away, but they’ll need a replacement for Gore pretty soon here.
An offense with Lattimore, James and Hunter in the backfield, Kaepernick under center and that fucking beastly offensive line could be really, really scary, especially if Jenkins develops at receiver the way the coaches expect him to.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Crabtree has really come into his own the last two years and is probably the best receiver in the NFL at running after the catch. And he has incredible hands. Boldin should be a pretty serviceable #2 and, while the combination of him and Crabtree aren’t going to stretch the field with their speed that much, Boldin is a legitimate red zone threat, something they’ve kind of lacked at the receiver position since TO left…[/quote]
Re: Crabtree - obvious trolling is obvious.
I was fairly shocked to see that Crabtree actually finished 5th (!) in YAC, so I’ll grant that he’s more than a possession receiver at this level.
Still, even old bones like Welker and Dre were still more productive than he was, and that’s not even touching the truly explosive-after-catch guys like Sproles, Spiller, Dem Thomas, Julio etc.
It looks like the Jets are the front runners to trade for Chris Ivory, I have been hoping for this since the end of the year, So far new GM Idzick has been making some smart under the radar moves, I liked the Goodson signing if they get Ivory…to backs with very little tread and have been impressive when given the time. The Revis trade should happen and getting 3 picks is very nice. Even the Garrard signing was smart, hes a proven vet and good in the lockeroom. Willie Colon, Dawan Landry, Antonio Garay…smart moves IMO.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Man, what the fuck? Why is half this thread filled up with a bunch of bullshit about two of the most dysfunctional teams in the NY Ain’t Yets and the Cowgirls? Fuck those roodypoo losers.
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x2 I doubt the jets will even be .500 this year and theyll still get over covered as if they’re actually relevant outside of the inundation of coverage forced upon ppl by the national media.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Man, what the fuck? Why is half this thread filled up with a bunch of bullshit about two of the most dysfunctional teams in the NY Ain’t Yets and the Cowgirls? Fuck those roodypoo losers.
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x2 I doubt the jets will even be .500 this year and theyll still get over covered as if they’re actually relevant outside of the inundation of coverage forced upon ppl by the national media. [/quote]
-2 This thread has been dominated by DB’s long winded posts about the cock gobbling of Kaeperknick. Sorry to tell you but a trade of one of the best defensive players in the league is news worthy and deserves coverage. There has been little to no coverage about the other nonsense.
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Crabtree has really come into his own the last two years and is probably the best receiver in the NFL at running after the catch. And he has incredible hands. Boldin should be a pretty serviceable #2 and, while the combination of him and Crabtree aren’t going to stretch the field with their speed that much, Boldin is a legitimate red zone threat, something they’ve kind of lacked at the receiver position since TO left…[/quote]
Re: Crabtree - obvious trolling is obvious.
I was fairly shocked to see that Crabtree actually finished 5th (!) in YAC, so I’ll grant that he’s more than a possession receiver at this level.
Still, even old bones like Welker and Dre were still more productive than he was, and that’s not even touching the truly explosive-after-catch guys like Sproles, Spiller, Dem Thomas, Julio etc.
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Once Crabtree had a real QB throwing him to instead of that fucking mongoloid, Smith, he took off. Also, keep in mind that he plays on a team that runs far more than the players you named. As far as explosive after the catch guys, Sproles and Spiller aren’t receivers, so they aren’t relevant when I say that Crabtree is the best RECEIVER after the catch. Maybe you missed that part. Besides, Sproles and Spiller don’t break tackles like Crabtree can.
Thomas is a legitimate threat to my claim, so I’ll grant you that. But Crabtree is FAR better at converting on third down and he also catches FAR more passes and accumulates more yards per route run. And production per route run is the best way to compare Crabtree to other receivers since guys like Thomas and Welker play in offenses that throw the ball about 2/3 of the time and Crabtree plays within an offense that throws half the time.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Man, what the fuck? Why is half this thread filled up with a bunch of bullshit about two of the most dysfunctional teams in the NY Ain’t Yets and the Cowgirls? Fuck those roodypoo losers.
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x2 I doubt the jets will even be .500 this year and theyll still get over covered as if they’re actually relevant outside of the inundation of coverage forced upon ppl by the national media. [/quote]
-2 This thread has been dominated by DB’s long winded posts about the cock gobbling of Kaeperknick. Sorry to tell you but a trade of one of the best defensive players in the league is news worthy and deserves coverage. There has been little to no coverage about the other nonsense. [/quote]
The trade hasn’t even happened yet and probably won’t happen now. The trade would basically have to happen within the next couple days if picks in this year’s draft are to be involved. Whoever gets Revis will need at least a day or two prior to the trade being consummated to examine Revis’ knee and with the draft starting Thursday, I’m going to guess that the trade would need to go down by the end of the day on Tuesday at the latest.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Once Crabtree had a real QB throwing him to instead of that fucking mongoloid, Smith, he took off. Also, keep in mind that he plays on a team that runs far more than the players you named. As far as explosive after the catch guys, Sproles and Spiller aren’t receivers, so they aren’t relevant when I say that Crabtree is the best RECEIVER after the catch. Maybe you missed that part. Besides, Sproles and Spiller don’t break tackles like Crabtree can.
Thomas is a legitimate threat to my claim, so I’ll grant you that. But Crabtree is FAR better at converting on third down and he also catches FAR more passes and accumulates more yards per route run. And production per route run is the best way to compare Crabtree to other receivers since guys like Thomas and Welker play in offenses that throw the ball about 2/3 of the time and Crabtree plays within an offense that throws half the time.[/quote]
I didn’t miss it at all. When Spiller/Sproles are no longer in the backfield as the ball gets snapped, they are absolutely considered receivers for that particular down. [/nitpick]
But your points about A Smith and offensive philosophy in general skewing Crabtree’s stats are fair enough.
Mildly disappointed in the Revis trade. Wanted 3 picks. However it was something that had to happen.
Coples, Wilkerson, Mingo and Jones…THE NEW NY SACK EXCHANGE!
The jets play the bucs in their first game next year…coincidence?
Revis no guaranteed money???