NFL Off-Season 2013

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Great move by the Niners. Remember guys, they are paying him 1.35 million with NO guarantees. That means if he sucks it up in training camp, they can cut bait and it’s see ya later. The kicker in the no guarantee of $ is that it was Nnamdi’s terms, so clearly he wants to redeem himself. Not to mention $ isn’t an issue since he’s still getting paid by the Eagles.

That’s a scary fucking team right now. Bears-49ers in the NFC Championship (lolz).[/quote]
So the Bears are drafting a Franchise QB?

hahhahahhahahhhahahhahahah :slight_smile:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Ehh, Nnamdi was overrated when he was on the Raiders. Dude was always getting schooled by Vincent Jackson. Didn’t really get to see him play much on the Eagles though.[/quote]

He’s primarily a man-to-man CB and in Philly he had to play primarily zone coverage. The Niners play mostly man-to-man with a lot of it asking the corners to play right up on the line of scrimmage. He’s going to be coming back to a team that will utilize his strengths instead of asking him to do something he isn’t suited for.

I think he might also get some looks in training camp at FS. He’s lost a step but he’s always had good instincts and the ability to make a play on the ball, so he might thrive at FS if he can learn the basics of the position. His lost speed won’t be nearly an issue back there and his instincts will serve him well when he has the whole field in front of him.

Regardless, he’s only making about 1.5 million so it’s not the like Niners have invested much in him. They can cut him in training camp and lose nothing if he looks like shit and I’m sure that after the draft there will be some very stiff competition in the secondary. The reason they got burned so much in the playoffs is due more to the lack of a pass rush with the injuries to Justin and Aldon Smith and the wearing down of McDonald and Sopoaga. It wasn’t a talent issue back there at all. The way their pass rush looked after the Smith boys got injured they would have been torched even if they had three Revis’ back there. [/quote]

Agree with all this, the FS part inparticular.

This can’t do anything but make the 9er’s better.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Ehh, Nnamdi was overrated when he was on the Raiders. Dude was always getting schooled by Vincent Jackson. Didn’t really get to see him play much on the Eagles though.[/quote]

He’s primarily a man-to-man CB and in Philly he had to play primarily zone coverage. The Niners play mostly man-to-man with a lot of it asking the corners to play right up on the line of scrimmage. He’s going to be coming back to a team that will utilize his strengths instead of asking him to do something he isn’t suited for.

I think he might also get some looks in training camp at FS. He’s lost a step but he’s always had good instincts and the ability to make a play on the ball, so he might thrive at FS if he can learn the basics of the position. His lost speed won’t be nearly an issue back there and his instincts will serve him well when he has the whole field in front of him.

Regardless, he’s only making about 1.5 million so it’s not the like Niners have invested much in him. They can cut him in training camp and lose nothing if he looks like shit and I’m sure that after the draft there will be some very stiff competition in the secondary. The reason they got burned so much in the playoffs is due more to the lack of a pass rush with the injuries to Justin and Aldon Smith and the wearing down of McDonald and Sopoaga. It wasn’t a talent issue back there at all. The way their pass rush looked after the Smith boys got injured they would have been torched even if they had three Revis’ back there. [/quote]

Agree with all this, the FS part inparticular.

This can’t do anything but make the 9er’s better. [/quote]

I still want to see what they do with 13 draft picks?

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Great move by the Niners. Remember guys, they are paying him 1.35 million with NO guarantees. That means if he sucks it up in training camp, they can cut bait and it’s see ya later. The kicker in the no guarantee of $ is that it was Nnamdi’s terms, so clearly he wants to redeem himself. Not to mention $ isn’t an issue since he’s still getting paid by the Eagles.

That’s a scary fucking team right now. Bears-49ers in the NFC Championship (lolz).[/quote]
So the Bears are drafting a Franchise QB?
[/quote]
Jay Cutler MVP 2013-2014.

wut

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Great move by the Niners. Remember guys, they are paying him 1.35 million with NO guarantees. That means if he sucks it up in training camp, they can cut bait and it’s see ya later. The kicker in the no guarantee of $ is that it was Nnamdi’s terms, so clearly he wants to redeem himself. Not to mention $ isn’t an issue since he’s still getting paid by the Eagles.

That’s a scary fucking team right now. Bears-49ers in the NFC Championship (lolz).[/quote]
So the Bears are drafting a Franchise QB?
[/quote]
Jay Cutler MVP 2013-2014.

wut[/quote]
Excuse me sir

Please step back from the Crack Pipe

You be trippin

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Ehh, Nnamdi was overrated when he was on the Raiders. Dude was always getting schooled by Vincent Jackson. Didn’t really get to see him play much on the Eagles though.[/quote]

He’s primarily a man-to-man CB and in Philly he had to play primarily zone coverage. The Niners play mostly man-to-man with a lot of it asking the corners to play right up on the line of scrimmage. He’s going to be coming back to a team that will utilize his strengths instead of asking him to do something he isn’t suited for.

I think he might also get some looks in training camp at FS. He’s lost a step but he’s always had good instincts and the ability to make a play on the ball, so he might thrive at FS if he can learn the basics of the position. His lost speed won’t be nearly an issue back there and his instincts will serve him well when he has the whole field in front of him.

Regardless, he’s only making about 1.5 million so it’s not the like Niners have invested much in him. They can cut him in training camp and lose nothing if he looks like shit and I’m sure that after the draft there will be some very stiff competition in the secondary. The reason they got burned so much in the playoffs is due more to the lack of a pass rush with the injuries to Justin and Aldon Smith and the wearing down of McDonald and Sopoaga. It wasn’t a talent issue back there at all. The way their pass rush looked after the Smith boys got injured they would have been torched even if they had three Revis’ back there. [/quote]

Agree with all this, the FS part inparticular.

This can’t do anything but make the 9er’s better. [/quote]

I still want to see what they do with 13 draft picks? [/quote]

I think they’ll most likely move up in the first round while also looking to acquire more picks in the middle rounds or in next year’s draft.

The way they’ve approached things in free agency, they’ve added enough depth at positions of need where they can draft based purely on talent rather than need now.

What I mean is that they, while they still have needs (CB, S, DL, TE, WR), they can simply take the best player available who ALSO fits a need, rather than take the player that fits their biggest need and hope he is good. Do you follow me here? If their turn comes up and a safety and a DL that they like are both on the board still, they can simply take whoever is the better player regardless of what the bigger need is now. For that reason, I would not be shocked to see them take a guy like Ertz or Eifert or Tayvon Austin in the first round even though most would say they should be looking at defense early.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see them take Jesse Williams either, even though most don’t think it would be smart for them to use a high pick on a NT who will most likely come off the field for more than half the snaps. They can gamble that he can play T and DE in the 3-4 because if he doesn’t work out right away they still get a good NT and have insurance in the form of Glenn Dorsey.

I think what is most likely is that they move up in the first round to acquire a guy like Sheldon Richardson or maybe even Star Lotulelei or Dion Jordan (if QBs go early I could see them dropping a few spots into the middle of the first round) and then start taking the best athlete available with an eye toward the best players in the secondary available.

They’ve also been linked to Bell, the RB out of Michigan State, but I still think a much better fit for them would be Stepfan Taylor out of Stanford. He knows the system, Gore isn’t getting any younger and he’s a legit 3-down back. Mark my words. Whoever lands Taylor is going to get themselves a very nice back, especially considering he’s probably going to go in the 3rd round.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Ehh, Nnamdi was overrated when he was on the Raiders. Dude was always getting schooled by Vincent Jackson. Didn’t really get to see him play much on the Eagles though.[/quote]

He’s primarily a man-to-man CB and in Philly he had to play primarily zone coverage. The Niners play mostly man-to-man with a lot of it asking the corners to play right up on the line of scrimmage. He’s going to be coming back to a team that will utilize his strengths instead of asking him to do something he isn’t suited for.

I think he might also get some looks in training camp at FS. He’s lost a step but he’s always had good instincts and the ability to make a play on the ball, so he might thrive at FS if he can learn the basics of the position. His lost speed won’t be nearly an issue back there and his instincts will serve him well when he has the whole field in front of him.

Regardless, he’s only making about 1.5 million so it’s not the like Niners have invested much in him. They can cut him in training camp and lose nothing if he looks like shit and I’m sure that after the draft there will be some very stiff competition in the secondary. The reason they got burned so much in the playoffs is due more to the lack of a pass rush with the injuries to Justin and Aldon Smith and the wearing down of McDonald and Sopoaga. It wasn’t a talent issue back there at all. The way their pass rush looked after the Smith boys got injured they would have been torched even if they had three Revis’ back there. [/quote]

Agree with all this, the FS part inparticular.

This can’t do anything but make the 9er’s better. [/quote]

I still want to see what they do with 13 draft picks? [/quote]

Looking at Baalke’s past history; I can see them moving up in the draft (ex: Colin Kaepernick), trading picks this year for next year’s picks (what NE is good at) and taking players who we fans say WTF (ex: Aldon Smith and AJ Jenkins). I don’t see 13 players being drafted.

Yea I see drafting about 6 and maybe 3 stick

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Yea I see drafting about 6 and maybe 3 stick[/quote]

I’ll go a little higher and hope 5 stick. With 5 picks in the top 100, I see them picking up a 2nd round pick to go with the KC 2nd rd pick next year.

So DT, DE, S, CB, WR/TE should be on the team next year.

Just to bring some AFC West balance back in here, the Chiefs are gonna come second in the division and take a wild card spot. I still have my reservations about Alex Smith but he is my QB now and therefore gets my full support.

[quote]redstar144 wrote:
Just to bring some AFC West balance back in here, the Chiefs are gonna come second in the division and take a wild card spot. I still have my reservations about Alex Smith but he is my QB now and therefore gets my full support. [/quote]
It’s possible, but I don’t think a wildcard team is going to come out of the west.

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]redstar144 wrote:
Just to bring some AFC West balance back in here, the Chiefs are gonna come second in the division and take a wild card spot. I still have my reservations about Alex Smith but he is my QB now and therefore gets my full support. [/quote]
It’s possible, but I don’t think a wildcard team is going to come out of the west.[/quote]
I dunno, there are some definite play-makers on that team. Alex Smith is what he is, you got Bowe/JMail/McCluster, two capable TE’s (Moeaki / Fasano), and of course Reid will have some great offensive plays. Should be a huge turn-around.

We have a very underrated O-line. B. Albert allowed less sacks over the last two years than Jake Long and Ryan Clady. Jon Asamoah is a very talented guard. Jeff Allen sucked at the start of last season but came on strong towards the end and Rodney Hudson looks like a solid center. The addition of Joeckel or Fisher to this unit would make for one of the better groups in the NFL.

The defense is shaping up nicely as well. The secondary should be strong with the off season additions, Houston and Hali are excellent pass rushers. DJ flies under the radar but is definitely a top 5 ILB. Hopefully Dontari Poe can improve this year and bring up the level of the D-line.

I don’t think it will be easy at all but a wildcard spot should definitely be the aim for the season.

Oh please let this guy not be a bone head like the last couple big name receivers brought in.

in other news YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!! Someone to catch the damn ball.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Oh please let this guy not be a bone head like the last couple big name receivers brought in.

in other news YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!! Someone to catch the damn ball.[/quote]

Cocksucker! Pittsburgh’s very thin at WO right now WITH Sanders on the team. Fuck.

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Oh please let this guy not be a bone head like the last couple big name receivers brought in.

in other news YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!! Someone to catch the damn ball.[/quote]

Cocksucker! Pittsburgh’s very thin at WO right now WITH Sanders on the team. Fuck.[/quote]

Pitt can still match the offer, so nothing is in stone yet.

You guys got Edleman back too. He was who I thought was gonna replace Welker NOT Ammendola

49’s have the best kicker in the league, and the Browns no longer have their best/most important player.

Getting pretty excited about all the uncertainty surrounding upcoming draft.

It seems like the few ‘can’t-miss’ prospects are at relatively unsexy positions (DT and OG-Warmack) and the current draft order makes it seem like draft-day trading should be good n plenty.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Oh please let this guy not be a bone head like the last couple big name receivers brought in.

in other news YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!! Someone to catch the damn ball.[/quote]

Cocksucker! Pittsburgh’s very thin at WO right now WITH Sanders on the team. Fuck.[/quote]

Pitt can still match the offer, so nothing is in stone yet.[/quote]

I hope the Pats’ whole front office dies in a fire.