NFL 2013

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
“Cowboys done in by another Tony Romo mistake”

Ya, the defense gives up 50 points, Romo throws for 500+ yards, and 4 TD, but it’s Romo’s fault…[/quote]

It’s not ‘his fault’ in the grand scheme of the entire game, but when it comes down to it they had the ball in a tie game with ~2 minutes left, and Romo threw a pick inside their own 30(20?). In spite of their lack of defense throughout the entire game they had a shot to drive for the winning FG; he didn’t get it done when it mattered even if he was the only reason they had a shot for it mattering at all.

This isn’t exactly the only time in history people have talked like this about a sport. Nobody gives a fuck how great you are if you fuck it up in crunch time.[/quote]

He had just been sacked the previous play. Had they not gotten the first down they would of lost anyway. There is no way the defense would of magically stopped Manning at that point. He had no choice but to try and make something happen. [/quote]

That INT was on 2nd down, and DEN had actually been using quite a bit of clock on their drives so there’s not some 100% guarantee they get a FG when they get the ball back with a minute or less.

I’m not saying Romo should get all the blame, or even as much as he is getting. But he is absolutely not absolved of it because of his game to that point. He fucked up.[/quote]

Denver scored 51 points it was pretty much guranteed they would score especially on a short field. If I’m not mistaken Denver punted once manybe twice the whole game. Had Dallas punted the ball and Denver won on a field goal, people would still be giving Romo shit. “He failed to win it in crunch time, typical Romo,” would be the response.

Romo played better than any other QB in the NFL this week. The Cowboy’s defense lost that game plain and simple.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
“Cowboys done in by another Tony Romo mistake”

Ya, the defense gives up 50 points, Romo throws for 500+ yards, and 4 TD, but it’s Romo’s fault…[/quote]

It’s not ‘his fault’ in the grand scheme of the entire game, but when it comes down to it they had the ball in a tie game with ~2 minutes left, and Romo threw a pick inside their own 30(20?). In spite of their lack of defense throughout the entire game they had a shot to drive for the winning FG; he didn’t get it done when it mattered even if he was the only reason they had a shot for it mattering at all.

This isn’t exactly the only time in history people have talked like this about a sport. Nobody gives a fuck how great you are if you fuck it up in crunch time.[/quote]

He had just been sacked the previous play. Had they not gotten the first down they would of lost anyway. There is no way the defense would of magically stopped Manning at that point. He had no choice but to try and make something happen. [/quote]

That INT was on 2nd down, and DEN had actually been using quite a bit of clock on their drives so there’s not some 100% guarantee they get a FG when they get the ball back with a minute or less.

I’m not saying Romo should get all the blame, or even as much as he is getting. But he is absolutely not absolved of it because of his game to that point. He fucked up.[/quote]

Denver scored 51 points it was pretty much guranteed they would score especially on a short field. If I’m not mistaken Denver punted once manybe twice the whole game. Had Dallas punted the ball and Denver won on a field goal, people would still be giving Romo shit. “He failed to win it in crunch time, typical Romo,” would be the response.

Romo played better than any other QB in the NFL this week. The Cowboy’s defense lost that game plain and simple. [/quote]

There was only one punt all game and it was by Dallas. Denver did not punt the ball at all.

I think the announcers were right (for once). Dallas was kind of fucked by Denver not scoring a touchdown because Dallas would have gotten the ball back with about a minute left. Not saying the game would have ended different but I would have rather wanted the game back in Romo’s hands rather than hoping Prater missed when he has made his previous 14 game winning field goals.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Denver is an awesome team and they will make a quite a run at the Super Bowl but they will not win it with their present porous defense.

They’ll obviously win plenty of games in the regular season but something has to change with the D in order to reach Nirvana.[/quote]

Getting Von Miller and Champ Bailey back will be huge for them.

For the Romo apologist(s):
“According to Football Outsiders’ Scott Kacsmar, Tony Romo is the first quarterback in league history to lose a game where he attempted more than 30 passes and posted a 140-plus QB rating… and he’s now done it twice. Per Kacsmar, non-Romo quarterbacks are 159-0-1 since 1960 when throwing at least four touchdowns and posting a 140-plus QB rating. Romo is 1-2.”

Eli Manning otoh, will look like an average QB all game, then make the throw of a lifetime (twice) to win a Super Bowl.

As a Giants fan who watched the Giants win a miracle-type SB against a clearly superior NE team thanks to an arrogantly overconfident team and especially coach (plus two more SBs in the previous Parcells era), then win another in a tossup matchup thanks to an errant pass from Brady (yes, I blame Brady more than Welker), I have been waiting and waiting for Karma the Bitch to demand PAYBACK…I fully expect new lows for the Jints, a new coach, possibly new GM, and at least 3-5 years before I expect to see the Giants as SB contenders again.

Cowboys? They’ll always look good (i.e. “talented”), but they’ll never get the SB ring as long as Jerry Jones is around. Note that I did not include Romo LOL.

I bet you the bengals have a team van that bails half the team out of jail during the week so they can play on sunday. Pac man is definitely making it rain right now. Romo played a great game but was outdone from the smartest qb of all time. That’s what sets Peyoteman apart is his knowledge of how to make the right calls given the coverage presented.

[quote]punnyguy wrote:
For the Romo apologist(s):
“According to Football Outsiders’ Scott Kacsmar, Tony Romo is the first quarterback in league history to lose a game where he attempted more than 30 passes and posted a 140-plus QB rating… and he’s now done it twice. Per Kacsmar, non-Romo quarterbacks are 159-0-1 since 1960 when throwing at least four touchdowns and posting a 140-plus QB rating. Romo is 1-2.”

Eli Manning otoh, will look like an average QB all game, then make the throw of a lifetime (twice) to win a Super Bowl.

As a Giants fan who watched the Giants win a miracle-type SB against a clearly superior NE team thanks to an arrogantly overconfident team and especially coach (plus two more SBs in the previous Parcells era), then win another in a tossup matchup thanks to an errant pass from Brady (yes, I blame Brady more than Welker), I have been waiting and waiting for Karma the Bitch to demand PAYBACK…I fully expect new lows for the Jints, a new coach, possibly new GM, and at least 3-5 years before I expect to see the Giants as SB contenders again.

Cowboys? They’ll always look good (i.e. “talented”), but they’ll never get the SB ring as long as Jerry Jones is around. Note that I did not include Romo LOL.[/quote]
But what do those 2 losses have to do with Romo? He doesn’t play defense too does he? I bet in those other 159 games the defense didn’t give up over 50 points.

I’d also say that was more a catch of a lifetime than a throw off a lifetime for the super bowl win.

The bottom line with Tony Romo is that when the game was on the line he fucked up. Again.

Sure, thanks to him the game was within reach. But that simply does not negate the fact that it was HE who made a boneheaded play at the wrong time of the game and on the wrong part of the field that cost the team the win. Despite ALL that the Cowgirls’ defense had allowed up to that point, they were still in position to win the game. Romo put them in that position and Romo took them out of that position, period.

When a kid is learning how to shit in a toilet and not all over the house, and he shits in the toilet for three straight days without issue but then shits all over the coffee table in the middle of your monthly cocktail party no one is going to say that it isn’t his fault because he managed to shit in the right spot for the last three days. No. Regardless of everything else he did RIGHT, the kid still shit on the living room coffee table in front of all your guests.

And THAT is who Tony Romo is. He’s the kid who manages to get his shit into the toilet all by himself when there aren’t any guests over but STILL, after all these years, somehow ends up dropping his trousers in the middle of your living room in front of 20 or so guests and co-workers, climbs up on the coffee table and proceeds to drop the foulest, sloppiest, steaming pile of shit you’ve ever seen, and then throw it all over the room. And he always pulls that stunt right after you’ve spent all week telling your co-workers how proud you are of your kid for FINALLY learning how to shit in the toilet by himself at the tender young age of 13.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
“Cowboys done in by another Tony Romo mistake”

Ya, the defense gives up 50 points, Romo throws for 500+ yards, and 4 TD, but it’s Romo’s fault…[/quote]
Been saying this for years.

Yes he fucked up on one play, yes it was at the end.

How did the God Tom Brady do yesterday?

Anybody killing him?

The romo criticism is because he plays well and then blows it. I don’t think people are saying romo outright sucks and that’s the thing. He plays well, gets his team in position to win and then pulls a bonehead move. AKA “A Romo”

Dat Jets D

[quote]gregron wrote:
The romo criticism is because he plays well and then blows it. I don’t think people are saying romo outright sucks and that’s the thing. He plays well, gets his team in position to win and then pulls a bonehead move. AKA “A Romo”[/quote]

If you watch the NFL big time players Peyton Manning and Brady make bad decisions at times. Cowboys problems have been with JJ, he focuses so much on the skill positions and “flashy” players he has neglected our defense and OL for years. Romo is not an Elite QB, but if JJ would put a fucking team around him we could do damage. Cause Romo does have skill, he proved that yesterday.

I know the NFL today centers SO much around the QB, but the Ravens won last year cause of their D and run game.

I still have faith, if Kiffin can get this 1t year change in Defense and maybe get some fucking players back Spencer and Ratliff on D we may make some noise.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
“Cowboys done in by another Tony Romo mistake”

Ya, the defense gives up 50 points, Romo throws for 500+ yards, and 4 TD, but it’s Romo’s fault…[/quote]
Been saying this for years.

Yes he fucked up on one play, yes it was at the end.

How did the God Tom Brady do yesterday?

Anybody killing him?[/quote]

He’s played in five Super Bowls and he’s won three of them. He’s probably going to go down as the greatest QB of all-time not named Joe Montana. He’s come up big in big games, games that are way bigger than anything Romo has or will play in. That buys him a LOT of currency that Romo, his pitiful 1-3 record and 81.0 passer rating in the postseason does not have. Brady has years worth of equity; Romo can’t even afford to buy a house.

I wonder how Romo would do against Big Ern.

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I wonder how Romo would do against Big Ern.

Kingpin - Showdown - YouTube [/quote]

He would throw a gutter

Then go fuck the hottest chick in the bowling alley

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
The romo criticism is because he plays well and then blows it. I don’t think people are saying romo outright sucks and that’s the thing. He plays well, gets his team in position to win and then pulls a bonehead move. AKA “A Romo”[/quote]

If you watch the NFL big time players Peyton Manning and Brady make bad decisions at times. Cowboys problems have been with JJ, he focuses so much on the skill positions and “flashy” players he has neglected our defense and OL for years. Romo is not an Elite QB, but if JJ would put a fucking team around him we could do damage. Cause Romo does have skill, he proved that yesterday.

I know the NFL today centers SO much around the QB, but the Ravens won last year cause of their D and run game.

I still have faith, if Kiffin can get this 1t year change in Defense and maybe get some fucking players back Spencer and Ratliff on D we may make some noise. [/quote]

If Mr. Davis, I mean Mr. Jones, puts a good team around Romo it just means that Romo will choke on his own cock and any other cock within reach in the first round of the playoffs instead of throughout the entire month of December. It won’t change anything about Romo because he is STILL going to find a way to blow the whole game despite anything he’s done up to that point. He’ll just blow bigger games than what he’s been fucking up the last few years. That’s what he does. He plays well enough to keep the Cowboys in position to win games that they otherwise have no business winning, and then he finds a way to blow it and ruin everything.

Peyton Manning, last year not withstanding, doesn’t really do that. He simply doesn’t play that well in the postseason. Brady should never be mentioned in the same breath as Romo. Brady won three Super Bowls and played extremely well in all three of them with less offensive talent around him than Romo has. And when put in position to win the game, he won those games. Romo simply doesn’t get the job done when it matters the most. It’s laughable that you don’t see the difference there, Derek.

And yes, I’m still pissed off about the mobile QB thing from a couple weeks ago and the fact that you didn’t immediately prostrate yourself before me when I made it painstakingly clear that you were incorrect in your assertion.

I’ve been doing the stanky leg and the dirty bird all day. Feasting on falcons for thanksgiving. MMMMMM,

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
The romo criticism is because he plays well and then blows it. I don’t think people are saying romo outright sucks and that’s the thing. He plays well, gets his team in position to win and then pulls a bonehead move. AKA “A Romo”[/quote]

If you watch the NFL big time players Peyton Manning and Brady make bad decisions at times. Cowboys problems have been with JJ, he focuses so much on the skill positions and “flashy” players he has neglected our defense and OL for years. Romo is not an Elite QB, but if JJ would put a fucking team around him we could do damage. Cause Romo does have skill, he proved that yesterday.

I know the NFL today centers SO much around the QB, but the Ravens won last year cause of their D and run game.

I still have faith, if Kiffin can get this 1t year change in Defense and maybe get some fucking players back Spencer and Ratliff on D we may make some noise. [/quote]

Romo has made a pattern of consistently making bad decisions at the end of big games that cost his team the win. That’s the difference.

He’s a good QB but makes his mistakes at the wrong times (which is what most people call choking)

Throw a pic on the first quarter? No big deal. Throw it with :30 seconds left down in the redone? Choke.

It’s all about timing and romo’s is the worst. Him and Rivers.

If Romo hadn’t tripped over the tackle, that pass is in there.