[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I was having trouble rooting for the niners (I stood to make alot more money than I will now because they lost) with that uber-douche as a coach, [/quote]
I have no idea how it happened but I’ve reversed course and actually have a ton of respect of SF’s Harbaugh.
Certainly that spoiled-rotten fan base was overdue for these heartaches but as far the HC goes, three deep playoff runs kinda speaks for itself.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
What’s up with Goodell considering promoting the elimination of kicked extra points?
There’s no reason to tinker with a product this good.
Part of me agrees with you, and part of me likes this idea.
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The more they talk about alternative options on PTI/sportradio, the more I’m liking em.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Come on DB. If Crabtree is healthy, Crabtree -Boldin-Davis is as good as 90% of the league. Hell, Boldin-Davis with check downs to Gore or Hunter is still better than most. It is better than Nelson-Jones-Boykin, Smith-Lafell-Olsen, Dobson-Thompkins-Vereen or Tate-Baldwin-Miller (Good God, why doesn’t Seattle get a receiver).[/quote]
It’s definitely above average. But I’m not sure that Boldin will be back next year. He’s 33, and I would imagine that he’ll want a guaranteed 3-year deal at a higher rate than his current $6 million salary. He would be worth a bump in pay for one year, but after that I don’t anticipate him being worth it anymore. You just can’t afford to have a guy earning $2 million getting paid $8 million anymore, especially since the Niners are definitely looking at having to sign several young guys coming off rookie contracts in the next year or two (Aldon Smith, Kaepernick, Iupati, Bruce Miller).
I still think that Vernon Davis is highly overrated as a TE. He has elite speed at the position, but not much else. He has no knack whatsoever for finding room in zone coverage and just sitting down and catching balls over the middle. As physical a freak as he is, he doesn’t play with physicality. He gets blown the fuck up more than any TE I’ve seen since Brent Jones’ last season (except he caught literally every pass ever thrown his way, his hands were that good) and he really doesn’t have any sort of open-field shiftiness at all. He literally ALWAYS gets taken down by the first guy to put any sort of significant contact on him. His hands are horrendous and he has zero ability to go up and GET the ball in the air.
Davis’ saving grace is his unparalleled speed at the position and his blocking abilities. He’s one of the best blocking TEs in the game today and has been since Day 1, and he might be the fastest TE to ever play the game. But speed is more of a luxury than a necessity at TE, and he doesn’t have much in the way of the really important qualities you’d like to see from a TE. He’s also a bit undersized at the position.
They have a 2nd-rounder from last year, Vance McDonald, who has a better look to him than Davis He’s a long-armed 6’4" 265 lbs with good speed and above average blocking abilities, which is amazing given that he actually played WR at Rice. He’s been in on most of the team’s snaps as the 2nd TE, but for some reason he simply doesn’t get the ball thrown his way at all. I don’t know if he doesn’t get open or what, but when he isn’t in blocking, he just doesn’t get targets.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Come on DB. If Crabtree is healthy, Crabtree -Boldin-Davis is as good as 90% of the league. Hell, Boldin-Davis with check downs to Gore or Hunter is still better than most. It is better than Nelson-Jones-Boykin, Smith-Lafell-Olsen, Dobson-Thompkins-Vereen or Tate-Baldwin-Miller (Good God, why doesn’t Seattle get a receiver).[/quote]
Also, Gore is done. Each year the last few years people keep saying, “Oh, this is it for Gore, he’s definitely on the way down.” I think this is the first year that those people will actually be right. He just looked slow and without the same burst after contact that he’s had the last couple years, and truth be told, everyone who has been saying that the Niners had a great run game hadn’t been watching the last 5-6 games they played. Gore didn’t do much at all.
Hunter hasn’t looked anything like his old self since his Achilles injury last year. They’re better off shitcanning him and using LaMichael James and Anthony Dixon as their 3rd and 4th backs since they can both play special teams well.
Marcus Lattimore is the make-or-break guy for the Niners next year. I expect there to be some significant upgrades across the board on offense next year, but if they can keep Gore fresh by spelling him with a legit 5 YPC type of back in Lattimore, they’re going to be a nightmare for defenses next year. One of the things that really hampered their offense this year is the fact that they simply did not run the ball efficiently at all this year, outside of Kaepernick. There were long stretches where they couldn’t get anything going on the ground at all early in the game and just abandoned the whole thing entirely. They’d do that for two games and then when they finally decided, hey we better stick with the run longer and get better at it earlier, they’d have some fucking creampuff like Jacksonville on the schedule, go apeshit for like 185 total rushing yards and everyone would think they had a dominant running game. But they weren’t dominant against anyone of any real stature.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I don’t think Kapernick looks off the safety as well as he should, and at this level, these defensive backs can recover to make the play even if they’re out of position.
I recall a pass in the Denver-NE game, where Manning threw a deep ball to his receiver who had his guy beat by 2 steps. But Manning ended up overthrowing him. Some people see this as a bad throw, but Manning made sure it was not a horrible throw by making sure the NE guy couldn’t intercept it. Sometimes the winning throw is throwing it away. This is what Kapernick needs to learn.
I am starting to lean more on Harbaugh for this at this point, because Kapernick (for as long as he has been playing) has used his legs as his main weapon, rather than his backup weapon. The threat of his legs is enough to keep a defensive front 7 honest.
This game is 90% mental, and I mean cerebral. This is chess on a football field. If Kapernick doesn’t learn this on his own or by a coach, he will end up like just another has-been who could run but didn’t amount to shit in the long run, along the lines of Vince Young.
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Agree 100%. I also think he needs to get more familiar with the offense. I know the guy is supposedly this uber-intelligent guy, but sometimes I wonder if some of his progression issues is because he doesn’t fully know where everyone is going to be. Part of this stems from some improvements he needs to make in reading defenses pre-snap, which gets back to his gameclock issues. And THAT is the thing I put on Harbaugh the most. I don’t think it’s nearly as easy to coach a guy up in terms of things he’s doing with the ball in hand as it is to coach them up on the pre-snap preparation. That really seems to be the area that he needs improvement in.
He has the arm talent to do it all. I remember a throw he made this year where he hit Davis for a 58-yard TD on an absolute rope that never got more than maybe 13’ off the ground. On a 7-step drop, and Davis caught it 5 yards into the end zone, so the pass was about 70 yards on the fly. HIt Davis perfectly in stride. He makes a lot of those types of awe-inspiring throws.
Where he needs work is shortening up his delivery for the shorter throws. The elongated delivery isn’t an issue on intermediate and deep routes, but the short touch throws he just can’t make. He’s like a drag racer that stalls at 25mph and is perfectly at ease at 250mph. Elway was a lot like that early in his career. I think that’s the type of QB he could become though, maybe a hybrid between him and Randall Cunningham.
I read something about it, and that is a piss poor showing by that fan. His/her tickets should be striped for a year. [/quote]
There’s drunk dumb fucks at every stadium. That is totally shitty. [/quote]
Without question.
Every team has assface fans. [/quote]
Yeah, well, you don’t see that shit at Candlestick Park. The worst I’ve ever seen is a half-hearted attempt at the wave while an injured opponent was on the ground. Most of the stadium shouted down the wave thing and in my section, it was only the opposing team’s fans (what few there were) who were participating in it.
This is the kind of shit that makes this loss easier to handle. I feel no animosity toward a fanbase and a team that is wholly without class or respect for the game or its players. I don’t feel anger toward a person who accidentally shits on my living room floor, only sorrow. Jjackrash is the lone exception. I KNOW he has zero class, but that’s because he’s a Chico State man, and none of us have class.[/quote]
Yeah, 9ers fans are all class:
lol
The irony of you talking class is not lost on me. I am prepared for the forth coming unclassy response.[/quote]
He is delusional if he doesn’t think Candlestick park had some idiot fans. You can’t generalize a fan base for the actions of one or two stupid fans.[/quote]
Hey, there are all sorts of idiots at Niners games. Back when they played at Kezar in the 1960’s the fans were known for throwing beer bottles at THEIR OWN PLAYERS when they were losing. Hunter S. Thompson once said that a game at Kezar made a Raiders game look like a trip to Disneyland.
But that was decades ago. As classless as many Niners fans are, I have NEVER seen them cheer and throw shit at an injured player. And the path from the sidelines to the visitors locker room provides PLENTY of opportunity to do so. I sit right in that area and have attended something like 150 games there. Not once seen anything like that.
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Didn’t you condemn the entire Seattle fan base over the actions of one or two people? lol [/quote]
Well, I wasn’t going to bring it up, but I’ve been to a Niners game up there before, and it was ugly. I went with a bunch of family members to visit relatives who just moved there. My grandmother even went to the game in her Montana jersey. All over the stadium people were literally coming up and getting in our faces, including hers, and screaming at her/us at the top of their lungs, “SAN FRANCISCO FAGOTS!” Several of us, including her, my aunt, and my sister had beer poured directly on them, it was nasty. And it eventually turned into a huge fucking brawl in the middle of a Niners comeback victory in a huge rainstorm with 90mph winds and whitecaps on the field, all of which I missed due to this massive melee involving me, my dad, my uncle, and about six Seahawks fans. I acquitted myself well, as did DBCooper, Sr.
So while I don’t have much to base my assessment on, the ugliest, most classless things I’ve seen from Seattle fans are probably the worst things I’ve seen from ANY fans.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Come on DB. If Crabtree is healthy, Crabtree -Boldin-Davis is as good as 90% of the league. Hell, Boldin-Davis with check downs to Gore or Hunter is still better than most. It is better than Nelson-Jones-Boykin, Smith-Lafell-Olsen, Dobson-Thompkins-Vereen or Tate-Baldwin-Miller (Good God, why doesn’t Seattle get a receiver).[/quote]
Also, Gore is done. Each year the last few years people keep saying, “Oh, this is it for Gore, he’s definitely on the way down.” I think this is the first year that those people will actually be right. He just looked slow and without the same burst after contact that he’s had the last couple years, and truth be told, everyone who has been saying that the Niners had a great run game hadn’t been watching the last 5-6 games they played. Gore didn’t do much at all.
Hunter hasn’t looked anything like his old self since his Achilles injury last year. They’re better off shitcanning him and using LaMichael James and Anthony Dixon as their 3rd and 4th backs since they can both play special teams well.
Marcus Lattimore is the make-or-break guy for the Niners next year. I expect there to be some significant upgrades across the board on offense next year, but if they can keep Gore fresh by spelling him with a legit 5 YPC type of back in Lattimore, they’re going to be a nightmare for defenses next year. One of the things that really hampered their offense this year is the fact that they simply did not run the ball efficiently at all this year, outside of Kaepernick. There were long stretches where they couldn’t get anything going on the ground at all early in the game and just abandoned the whole thing entirely. They’d do that for two games and then when they finally decided, hey we better stick with the run longer and get better at it earlier, they’d have some fucking creampuff like Jacksonville on the schedule, go apeshit for like 185 total rushing yards and everyone would think they had a dominant running game. But they weren’t dominant against anyone of any real stature.[/quote]
I agree with you about Gore, he is going down but I still think he is in the upper half of the league as far as starting backs. The biggest problem with Gore is he has always seemed to be a back that required a few carries to get in the groove and was actually better between his 10th and 20th carry than his first 10, and now that he is getting a little age on him his body is letting him down during what used to be his sweet spot.
And to Davis, with the state of TE’s in the league this year, it is fairly easy to make the case that he was a top 5 TE. You’ve got Graham and Thomas ahead of him and after that you could argue that he should be 3rd. I cant really think of one that would be ahead of him.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Come on DB. If Crabtree is healthy, Crabtree -Boldin-Davis is as good as 90% of the league. Hell, Boldin-Davis with check downs to Gore or Hunter is still better than most. It is better than Nelson-Jones-Boykin, Smith-Lafell-Olsen, Dobson-Thompkins-Vereen or Tate-Baldwin-Miller (Good God, why doesn’t Seattle get a receiver).[/quote]
Also, Gore is done. Each year the last few years people keep saying, “Oh, this is it for Gore, he’s definitely on the way down.” I think this is the first year that those people will actually be right. He just looked slow and without the same burst after contact that he’s had the last couple years, and truth be told, everyone who has been saying that the Niners had a great run game hadn’t been watching the last 5-6 games they played. Gore didn’t do much at all.
Hunter hasn’t looked anything like his old self since his Achilles injury last year. They’re better off shitcanning him and using LaMichael James and Anthony Dixon as their 3rd and 4th backs since they can both play special teams well.
Marcus Lattimore is the make-or-break guy for the Niners next year. I expect there to be some significant upgrades across the board on offense next year, but if they can keep Gore fresh by spelling him with a legit 5 YPC type of back in Lattimore, they’re going to be a nightmare for defenses next year. One of the things that really hampered their offense this year is the fact that they simply did not run the ball efficiently at all this year, outside of Kaepernick. There were long stretches where they couldn’t get anything going on the ground at all early in the game and just abandoned the whole thing entirely. They’d do that for two games and then when they finally decided, hey we better stick with the run longer and get better at it earlier, they’d have some fucking creampuff like Jacksonville on the schedule, go apeshit for like 185 total rushing yards and everyone would think they had a dominant running game. But they weren’t dominant against anyone of any real stature.[/quote]
I agree with you about Gore, he is going down but I still think he is in the upper half of the league as far as starting backs. The biggest problem with Gore is he has always seemed to be a back that required a few carries to get in the groove and was actually better between his 10th and 20th carry than his first 10, and now that he is getting a little age on him his body is letting him down during what used to be his sweet spot.
And to Davis, with the state of TE’s in the league this year, it is fairly easy to make the case that he was a top 5 TE. You’ve got Graham and Thomas ahead of him and after that you could argue that he should be 3rd. I cant really think of one that would be ahead of him. [/quote]
The problem with Gore is that he is a MORON. He can run like hell, but he is stupid as mule shit. I will be excited to watch Lattimore play even though he is a 49er. He was amazing with the Gamecocks, I have no doubt he will excel in the NFL. The frightening thing is now SF will have a dominant running back who is not a moron.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Come on DB. If Crabtree is healthy, Crabtree -Boldin-Davis is as good as 90% of the league. Hell, Boldin-Davis with check downs to Gore or Hunter is still better than most. It is better than Nelson-Jones-Boykin, Smith-Lafell-Olsen, Dobson-Thompkins-Vereen or Tate-Baldwin-Miller (Good God, why doesn’t Seattle get a receiver).[/quote]
Also, Gore is done. Each year the last few years people keep saying, “Oh, this is it for Gore, he’s definitely on the way down.” I think this is the first year that those people will actually be right. He just looked slow and without the same burst after contact that he’s had the last couple years, and truth be told, everyone who has been saying that the Niners had a great run game hadn’t been watching the last 5-6 games they played. Gore didn’t do much at all.
Hunter hasn’t looked anything like his old self since his Achilles injury last year. They’re better off shitcanning him and using LaMichael James and Anthony Dixon as their 3rd and 4th backs since they can both play special teams well.
Marcus Lattimore is the make-or-break guy for the Niners next year. I expect there to be some significant upgrades across the board on offense next year, but if they can keep Gore fresh by spelling him with a legit 5 YPC type of back in Lattimore, they’re going to be a nightmare for defenses next year. One of the things that really hampered their offense this year is the fact that they simply did not run the ball efficiently at all this year, outside of Kaepernick. There were long stretches where they couldn’t get anything going on the ground at all early in the game and just abandoned the whole thing entirely. They’d do that for two games and then when they finally decided, hey we better stick with the run longer and get better at it earlier, they’d have some fucking creampuff like Jacksonville on the schedule, go apeshit for like 185 total rushing yards and everyone would think they had a dominant running game. But they weren’t dominant against anyone of any real stature.[/quote]
I agree with you about Gore, he is going down but I still think he is in the upper half of the league as far as starting backs. The biggest problem with Gore is he has always seemed to be a back that required a few carries to get in the groove and was actually better between his 10th and 20th carry than his first 10, and now that he is getting a little age on him his body is letting him down during what used to be his sweet spot.
And to Davis, with the state of TE’s in the league this year, it is fairly easy to make the case that he was a top 5 TE. You’ve got Graham and Thomas ahead of him and after that you could argue that he should be 3rd. I cant really think of one that would be ahead of him. [/quote]
The problem with Gore is that he is a MORON. He can run like hell, but he is stupid as mule shit. I will be excited to watch Lattimore play even though he is a 49er. He was amazing with the Gamecocks, I have no doubt he will excel in the NFL. The frightening thing is now SF will have a dominant running back who is not a moron. [/quote]
I actually thought that Anthony Dixon coming out of Miss State would have worked out pretty well for them as a part time back but I guess he just didn’t have what it took. Has turned into a decent special teams player though. I worry about Lattimore staying healthy. Hope he does though.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Browns have finally decided on a coach. Not that anyone cares, myself included. [/quote]
Scary to think who the Bills will replace Pettine with. Probably just slap a whistle on some hobo from the dumpster out back. Fuck I hate being a Bills fan.
Just found out Richard Sherman was a Salutatorian in high-school and graduated with a degree from Stanford while playing for the Cardinals. Apparently, he’s been doing his Masters. Funny how intelligent guys like Sherman and Kapernick who don’t fit into the traditional goody nerdy stereotype are lambasted in the media for things they do when a camera is on.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Browns have finally decided on a coach. Not that anyone cares, myself included. [/quote]
Scary to think who the Bills will replace Pettine with. Probably just slap a whistle on some hobo from the dumpster out back. Fuck I hate being a Bills fan.[/quote]
What’s sad is that the Bills are my second team, and the Browns somehow managed to fuck their team up while still having time to continue the great tradition of 4-12
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Just found out Richard Sherman was a Salutatorian in high-school and graduated with a degree from Stanford while playing for the Cardinals. Apparently, he’s been doing his Masters. Funny how intelligent guys like Sherman and Kapernick who don’t fit into the traditional goody nerdy stereotype are lambasted in the media for things they do when a camera is on.[/quote]
Well that makes it OK to be a classless jerk off I guess.
