NFL 2012 Part 2

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]fnf wrote:
I want to see how Atlanta’s undersized but quick D line can handle the 49ers O line in the run game. As Ron Jaworski once stated “They may have the best run blocking line in the National Football League”

49ers by murder, death, kill.[/quote]

We just beat the team that beat the shit out of them. If you break the game down by the numbers, Atlanta took Seattle totally out of their game, they have been averaging 40+ points per game the past 8, we held them to 28. The #1 defense in the league, who has been giving up an average of 14 points per game, gave up 30 to us.

Before you get all high and mighty, realize that the two teams that utterly destroyed San Fran, we beat. We shut out the Giants, and we beat the Seahawks, the hottest team in the league going in.
Don’t think I disrespect the 49er’s by any stretch, but don’t be disrespecting the Falcon’s, we’ve been doing it all year and we just beat the team that had the best chance at running the table. It wasn’t pretty, we’re not pretty, but it wasn’t lucky either. We’ve done those sub- 1 minute game winning drives 7 times this year. [/quote]

I’ll bet you an avatar that you’re wrong…

The Niners are going to flat out smash the little birdies. Atlanta has looked horrible against the read option all year and they’ve barely seen any of the pistol formation, let alone the sheer amount of different shit the 49ers run out of it. That is one TOUGH offense to prepare if you aren’t familiar with it. They’re going to need a whole half just to adjust to the speed and variety that the Niners are going to throw at them, and by that time the biggest, dirtiest, nastiest offensive line in football will have worn down the little birdies and they’ll just start smashing motherfuckers left and right with Gore the Running Back Gopher gaining big chunks of yardage all fourth quarter.

By the time Atlanta figures out what hit 'em it’s going to be out of hand in favor of the Niners. All the game planning in the world can’t prepare you for a physically-superior team, and that’s what the Niners are: bigger, stronger, faster at pretty much every position other than WR.

Your team is fucked. The rematch of the 98 Championship Game is going to go much better for the Niners than it did last time down there. Gore isn’t going to snap his fucking leg in half on the first play from scrimmage like Garrison Hearst did.[/quote]

If the Rams can beat you, Atlanta can damn sure do it too.
I am well aware of what your team can do. I am also well of aware of the fact that the 49er’s are beatable. Kaepernick came off a career game, chances are he won’t repeat that. Doesn’t mean he won’t be good, just means that, that performance is rare.
Yeah, Seattle came back on us, just like the Patriots came back on yall; except we started playing backups, I blame coaching for that. I do agree that Smith lacks that killer instinct that we need with a lead.
But we just beat a team very similar to yours, except their defense is better and their offense is better. I guess you reckon we’re at home playing X-Box and not worrying about preparing for this game?

I hope your team comes in with the complacency and arrogance that you have. That will be perfect for us.

EDIT: There are enough faggity avatars around here. And I told you I am a jinx, so I won’t bet or talk a bunch of shit. Just football.

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[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
Don’t know if this has been posted yet, but here are the All-Pro teams:

I don’t think there are really any surprises there, except I would have had Brady as 2nd team QB over Rodgers.

LOL poor Ahmad Brooks must be taking a lot of shit for being the only Niners LB to not get first team All Pro.[/quote]

Ya I agree with you on both topics. Brooks is a great LB. Would love to have him in GB. [/quote]

The avatar, it burns…LOL! What bet did you lose, that’s horrible![/quote]

Sigh…the Packer/SF game. Your Falcons better rape those pos. I mean the big black dick in prison from a guy named Bubba type of rape.[/quote]

We will try. The twelfth man will be there.
I am sorry. I didn’t expect Kaepernick to have a career game. What people fail to realize is that defenses adjust to this stuff.
I need to look at Harbough’s interviews this week. I hope like hell he is complacent.

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[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Looks like McCoy will be HC for San Diego. Thoughts Strungoutboy?[/quote]

How come your avatar is waaay worse than DB’s? Yours makes me want to hurl.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Oh Paaaaat? How nervous are you about this weekend’s game? Have you already decided what sort of booze you’re going to drown your sorrows in? Do you realize how much faster Kaepernick is going to be on that turf than he was on the Candlestick grass?

I think the matchups are pretty close all around, except for one VERY key area: the line of scrimmage. The Niners are going to control it on both sides of the ball all afternoon. As we all know, whoever controls the line of scrimmage, especially when you can run and also stop the opponent’s run, virtually ALWAYS wins the game.

How are the Birdies going to plan for this? Are they going to send the Dawsonville chapter of the Hell’s Angels to the team hotel the night before the game? I don’t even think that would work. I like Justin Smith and Mike Iupati’s chances against any Hell’s Angels member any day of the week, motorcycle chains and all.[/quote]

We already beat a better team than the Niners; that also happen to run very similar offense and defense. This team also laid out the blue print for beating the niners. How we gonna plan? Watch the Seahawks game where they pummeled the Niners, and plan accordingly. Watch the Rams game and see what the Rams do that kept what should be a far superior team from beating them, twice.
The blue print is out there, we just need to follow it and adjust it to fit our team. That’s how we are going to plan for it.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Oh Paaaaat? How nervous are you about this weekend’s game? Have you already decided what sort of booze you’re going to drown your sorrows in? Do you realize how much faster Kaepernick is going to be on that turf than he was on the Candlestick grass?

I think the matchups are pretty close all around, except for one VERY key area: the line of scrimmage. The Niners are going to control it on both sides of the ball all afternoon. As we all know, whoever controls the line of scrimmage, especially when you can run and also stop the opponent’s run, virtually ALWAYS wins the game.

How are the Birdies going to plan for this? Are they going to send the Dawsonville chapter of the Hell’s Angels to the team hotel the night before the game? I don’t even think that would work. I like Justin Smith and Mike Iupati’s chances against any Hell’s Angels member any day of the week, motorcycle chains and all.[/quote]

We already beat a better team than the Niners; that also happen to run very similar offense and defense. This team also laid out the blue print for beating the niners. How we gonna plan? Watch the Seahawks game where they pummeled the Niners, and plan accordingly. Watch the Rams game and see what the Rams do that kept what should be a far superior team from beating them, twice.
The blue print is out there, we just need to follow it and adjust it to fit our team. That’s how we are going to plan for it.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Oh Paaaaat? How nervous are you about this weekend’s game? Have you already decided what sort of booze you’re going to drown your sorrows in? Do you realize how much faster Kaepernick is going to be on that turf than he was on the Candlestick grass?

I think the matchups are pretty close all around, except for one VERY key area: the line of scrimmage. The Niners are going to control it on both sides of the ball all afternoon. As we all know, whoever controls the line of scrimmage, especially when you can run and also stop the opponent’s run, virtually ALWAYS wins the game.

How are the Birdies going to plan for this? Are they going to send the Dawsonville chapter of the Hell’s Angels to the team hotel the night before the game? I don’t even think that would work. I like Justin Smith and Mike Iupati’s chances against any Hell’s Angels member any day of the week, motorcycle chains and all.[/quote]

We already beat a better team than the Niners; that also happen to run very similar offense and defense. This team also laid out the blue print for beating the niners. How we gonna plan? Watch the Seahawks game where they pummeled the Niners, and plan accordingly. Watch the Rams game and see what the Rams do that kept what should be a far superior team from beating them, twice.
The blue print is out there, we just need to follow it and adjust it to fit our team. That’s how we are going to plan for it.[/quote]

That’s like saying “Well, I saw how Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson so if I just watch enough film and follow the plan accordingly I, too, can beat Mike Tyson in a fist fight.”

You can’t gameplan for physical superiority, and that’s what the 49ers have. They just held the best QB in the NFL, one who is light years ahead of Matt Ryan, to 24 points, 7 of which were completely meaningless. In reality, when the game mattered they held Rodgers to just 17 points.

As far as offense goes, there’s no way Seattle is as good as the Niners on offense. They barely ran the read option this year with Kaepernick. Their OC said it himself: they purposefully held that play back a lot just for the playoffs. There’s the regular season offense, and there’s the playoff time offense. You just saw the playoff time offense and with Kaepernick’s unGodly talents, I expect more of the same. That was NOT an aberrational performance by him. Not when considering just how physically-gifted he is and what he did on a regular basis in college. The guy is a freak and there’s nothing a team can do to prepare for players who are bigger, stronger and faster than them at most positions.

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I will say that SF probably has the best line on both sides in the league. But DB, you are WAAY overestimating Kaepernick, like the rest of the media is. You faced a weak defense that had sick players coming in the game and has less than mediocre LBs. Kaepernick is talented but if Capers(or any other DC) focused primarily on his run and leaves the backfield to handle the passing game, the outcome of the game would be quite different.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]fnf wrote:
I want to see how Atlanta’s undersized but quick D line can handle the 49ers O line in the run game. As Ron Jaworski once stated “They may have the best run blocking line in the National Football League”

49ers by murder, death, kill.[/quote]

We just beat the team that beat the shit out of them. If you break the game down by the numbers, Atlanta took Seattle totally out of their game, they have been averaging 40+ points per game the past 8, we held them to 28. The #1 defense in the league, who has been giving up an average of 14 points per game, gave up 30 to us.

Before you get all high and mighty, realize that the two teams that utterly destroyed San Fran, we beat. We shut out the Giants, and we beat the Seahawks, the hottest team in the league going in.
Don’t think I disrespect the 49er’s by any stretch, but don’t be disrespecting the Falcon’s, we’ve been doing it all year and we just beat the team that had the best chance at running the table. It wasn’t pretty, we’re not pretty, but it wasn’t lucky either. We’ve done those sub- 1 minute game winning drives 7 times this year. [/quote]

Do I under estimate Atl? Heck no. Do I think my team will win? Fuck yes!!!

It should be a good game. Your 2 WRs scare me to death. None of my CBs are as good as Sherman, and Atl tested him. So I see Culiver needing help from the safeties, which may open it up for Turner. It will not be as easy as some 49er fans have been saying. I don’t expect Kap to have a game like he did against GB. That was a game for the ages.

But I do expect a win. I say 30-24, SF.

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[quote]fnf wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]fnf wrote:
I want to see how Atlanta’s undersized but quick D line can handle the 49ers O line in the run game. As Ron Jaworski once stated “They may have the best run blocking line in the National Football League”

49ers by murder, death, kill.[/quote]

We just beat the team that beat the shit out of them. If you break the game down by the numbers, Atlanta took Seattle totally out of their game, they have been averaging 40+ points per game the past 8, we held them to 28. The #1 defense in the league, who has been giving up an average of 14 points per game, gave up 30 to us.

Before you get all high and mighty, realize that the two teams that utterly destroyed San Fran, we beat. We shut out the Giants, and we beat the Seahawks, the hottest team in the league going in.
Don’t think I disrespect the 49er’s by any stretch, but don’t be disrespecting the Falcon’s, we’ve been doing it all year and we just beat the team that had the best chance at running the table. It wasn’t pretty, we’re not pretty, but it wasn’t lucky either. We’ve done those sub- 1 minute game winning drives 7 times this year. [/quote]

Do I under estimate Atl? Heck no. Do I think my team will win? Fuck yes!!!

It should be a good game. Your 2 WRs scare me to death. None of my CBs are as good as Sherman, and Atl tested him. So I see Culiver needing help from the safeties, which may open it up for Turner. It will not be as easy as some 49er fans have been saying. I don’t expect Kap to have a game like he did against GB. That was a game for the ages.

But I do expect a win. I say 30-24, SF.

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I agree with this also. Also, Atl doesnt have the run defense like Seattle or even GB did. That will be a factor.

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[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]fnf wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]fnf wrote:
I want to see how Atlanta’s undersized but quick D line can handle the 49ers O line in the run game. As Ron Jaworski once stated “They may have the best run blocking line in the National Football League”

49ers by murder, death, kill.[/quote]

We just beat the team that beat the shit out of them. If you break the game down by the numbers, Atlanta took Seattle totally out of their game, they have been averaging 40+ points per game the past 8, we held them to 28. The #1 defense in the league, who has been giving up an average of 14 points per game, gave up 30 to us.

Before you get all high and mighty, realize that the two teams that utterly destroyed San Fran, we beat. We shut out the Giants, and we beat the Seahawks, the hottest team in the league going in.
Don’t think I disrespect the 49er’s by any stretch, but don’t be disrespecting the Falcon’s, we’ve been doing it all year and we just beat the team that had the best chance at running the table. It wasn’t pretty, we’re not pretty, but it wasn’t lucky either. We’ve done those sub- 1 minute game winning drives 7 times this year. [/quote]

Do I under estimate Atl? Heck no. Do I think my team will win? Fuck yes!!!

It should be a good game. Your 2 WRs scare me to death. None of my CBs are as good as Sherman, and Atl tested him. So I see Culiver needing help from the safeties, which may open it up for Turner. It will not be as easy as some 49er fans have been saying. I don’t expect Kap to have a game like he did against GB. That was a game for the ages.

But I do expect a win. I say 30-24, SF.

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I agree with this also. Also, Atl doesnt have the run defense like Seattle or even GB did. That will be a factor.[/quote]

My prediction? San Francisco 38, Atlanta 24

And it won’t even be that close.

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[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Looks like McCoy will be HC for San Diego. Thoughts Strungoutboy?[/quote]
I like the hire. I like hiring him rather than a head coach who was already fired. He is an offensive minded coach which is a good thing. Chargers need help on offense. Hopefully McCoy and the new GM bring some O-lineman in to help with the offense.

I also like the fact that he came from a division rival.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:
What do you guys think of this scenario? Vernon Davis should drop about 10lbs this offseason, hit the fuck out of the Jugs machine and transition to WR next year.

The reason I say he should do this is simple: he has hands of fucking stone and he simply doesn’t handle the velocity that Kaepernick puts on the ball. As a TE, even one that can stretch the field better than pretty much any other TE out there, he still has to catch a lot of passes that are shorter routes. He doesn’t handle those sorts of throws well since they’re getting on him quickly. But as a wideout, he can catch more balls that are thrown over his shoulder, like that one Kaepernick threw to him in the second half and a lot of the ones he was catching from Smith in last year’s playoffs.

He has the speed to run with most CBs, and if he drops 10lbs I could easily envision him gaining a little bit more speed, and perhaps a little more agility as well. Plus, imagine motioning him into the backfield in the pistol formation the Niners are undoubtedly going to be using a lot of next year. I don’t think losing that weight will affect his blocking abilities that much, so he’d still remain dangerous as both a run blocker AND as a guy who can leak out of the backfield on those plays and get matched up against a 'backer or a safety.

Sounds kind of convoluted, I know, but I was just thinking that with all the bigger TEs these days he’s actually quite undersized at the position compared to where the position is evolving to. He’s about 6’3" and 240lbs (he’s listed at 250, but I think that might be a bit generous). Imagine a faster Vernon Davis at 6’3" 235 or so split out wide against CBs and safeties! Plus, the Niners need some WR help for next year, assuming Kyle Williams and Mario Manningham don’t come back at full strength for the start of next season. I don’t know what they’d do about TE since Delanie Walker probably won’t be back next year, but there’s some big, tall, athletic TEs available in the draft this year (I really like local kid Ryan Otten out of San Jose State and this Fauria kid out of UCLA. Both are about 6’6" and have good hands).[/quote]

I think one would find this under dictionary defintion of ‘pipedream’

Its not like Vernon Davis is some raw, undeveloped talent with insane upside anymore. By this point, he is what he is and it’s not an 80-100 catch TE.

And the idea of him running outside routes is laughable. Even a prototype-underachiever like Jermichael Finley would still be miles ahead of Davis as a passcatcher.

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Man, I just have this feeling that LaMichael James is going to do somrthing big this Sunday and/or on Feb 3.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Oh Paaaaat? How nervous are you about this weekend’s game? Have you already decided what sort of booze you’re going to drown your sorrows in? Do you realize how much faster Kaepernick is going to be on that turf than he was on the Candlestick grass?

I think the matchups are pretty close all around, except for one VERY key area: the line of scrimmage. The Niners are going to control it on both sides of the ball all afternoon. As we all know, whoever controls the line of scrimmage, especially when you can run and also stop the opponent’s run, virtually ALWAYS wins the game.

How are the Birdies going to plan for this? Are they going to send the Dawsonville chapter of the Hell’s Angels to the team hotel the night before the game? I don’t even think that would work. I like Justin Smith and Mike Iupati’s chances against any Hell’s Angels member any day of the week, motorcycle chains and all.[/quote]

We already beat a better team than the Niners; that also happen to run very similar offense and defense. This team also laid out the blue print for beating the niners. How we gonna plan? Watch the Seahawks game where they pummeled the Niners, and plan accordingly. Watch the Rams game and see what the Rams do that kept what should be a far superior team from beating them, twice.
The blue print is out there, we just need to follow it and adjust it to fit our team. That’s how we are going to plan for it.[/quote]

Did you see what happened to Frasier when he tried to fight Foreman like he was Ali?

Also, from above, there’s no way the Niners are going to take this game lightly. I’m sure Harbaugh has the players on task and most of the players remember all too well what happened last year. You know how they say the best players are the ones with the chip on their shoulder? I think Harbaugh is the best coach because he’s got the freaking Rock of Gibraltar on his shoulder. That guy was a hell of a QB but always got stuck on the shittiest teams. He’s out to prove he can win and he ain’t gonna take anyone lightly in the process.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Oh Paaaaat? How nervous are you about this weekend’s game? Have you already decided what sort of booze you’re going to drown your sorrows in? Do you realize how much faster Kaepernick is going to be on that turf than he was on the Candlestick grass?

I think the matchups are pretty close all around, except for one VERY key area: the line of scrimmage. The Niners are going to control it on both sides of the ball all afternoon. As we all know, whoever controls the line of scrimmage, especially when you can run and also stop the opponent’s run, virtually ALWAYS wins the game.

How are the Birdies going to plan for this? Are they going to send the Dawsonville chapter of the Hell’s Angels to the team hotel the night before the game? I don’t even think that would work. I like Justin Smith and Mike Iupati’s chances against any Hell’s Angels member any day of the week, motorcycle chains and all.[/quote]

We already beat a better team than the Niners; that also happen to run very similar offense and defense. This team also laid out the blue print for beating the niners. How we gonna plan? Watch the Seahawks game where they pummeled the Niners, and plan accordingly. Watch the Rams game and see what the Rams do that kept what should be a far superior team from beating them, twice.
The blue print is out there, we just need to follow it and adjust it to fit our team. That’s how we are going to plan for it.[/quote]

That’s like saying “Well, I saw how Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson so if I just watch enough film and follow the plan accordingly I, too, can beat Mike Tyson in a fist fight.”

You can’t gameplan for physical superiority, and that’s what the 49ers have. They just held the best QB in the NFL, one who is light years ahead of Matt Ryan, to 24 points, 7 of which were completely meaningless. In reality, when the game mattered they held Rodgers to just 17 points.

As far as offense goes, there’s no way Seattle is as good as the Niners on offense. They barely ran the read option this year with Kaepernick. Their OC said it himself: they purposefully held that play back a lot just for the playoffs. There’s the regular season offense, and there’s the playoff time offense. You just saw the playoff time offense and with Kaepernick’s unGodly talents, I expect more of the same. That was NOT an aberrational performance by him. Not when considering just how physically-gifted he is and what he did on a regular basis in college. The guy is a freak and there’s nothing a team can do to prepare for players who are bigger, stronger and faster than them at most positions.[/quote]

Yawn…

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Anybody notice that Tebow won more play-off games with the Broncos than Manning? Just sayin’

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Yeah just goona put this here. If you’re on the G+ you saw this already, but LOL…

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Stat of the Day(for Pat and DB): Since Harbaugh became HC of the 9ers, SF is 6-1 in the Eastern time zone. The only game they lost was to Baltimore on Thanksgiving Day in 2011. Interesting factoid.

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The Bears went way in left field here and hire Marc Trestman, a CFL HC. I like the pick. Im not gonna act like I new who the hell this guy was but his resume and the things Jerry Rice, Gruden, and Walsh had to say about him makes it look like a smart pick. With two CFL titles and making it to the big game in 3 times in the past 5 years, he cant be that incapable.

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Haha Brad, that was hilarious.