NFL 2012 Part 2

fucking Bears gave me a dose of reality today. Will not make a deep playoff run… mainly due to the coaching staff.

Disappointing game as a Niners fan, almost though we were going to see another tie.

Right now, Kap is not the answer. I don’t think he’s ready and his innacuracy on a few wide open pass plays definitely cost them that game. Harbaugh could really be screwing the team with this coaching move. I like Kap and was high on him coming out of college but he’s not ready and isn’t going to win games for us with his arm.

I’m enjoying the rookie Qb’s this year, Luck, Griffin, Wilson, Tannehill and Weeden all looking good bets for their teams for a good few years.

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
Nice coverage by the Lions on that last play. Luck is one cool cat.

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LOL! I was like: “Huh?”

That was a huge win for Pittsburgh and Charlie Batch in particular. Was great to see him redeem himself after last weeks horror show.

Steeler Defense is playing lights out right now no matter who’s in there. I sure hope Ike Taylor isn’t out for long.

Joe Flacco is NOT a SB QB yet. He can make some excellent throws but I still think he’s fucking brain dead and not that great a QB overall, certainly not elite like he was talking at the beginning of the season. He’s got decent weapons?

Overall some awesome football yesterday.

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

Joe Flacco is NOT a SB QB yet. He can make some excellent throws but I still think he’s fucking brain dead and not that great a QB overall, certainly not elite like he was talking at the beginning of the season. He’s got decent weapons?

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You know this is the year to me he would really have to step it up, he has the defense, the running game and the weapons on the outside. After that game yesterday I would have to agree with you on this.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

Joe Flacco is NOT a SB QB yet. He can make some excellent throws but I still think he’s fucking brain dead and not that great a QB overall, certainly not elite like he was talking at the beginning of the season. He’s got decent weapons?

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You know this is the year to me he would really have to step it up, he has the defense, the running game and the weapons on the outside. After that game yesterday I would have to agree with you on this. [/quote]

He played well in that playoff loss last year and we all saw that WO drop a very catchable
ball, not on him but like you mentioned, he had to make another jump. I just don’t like his body language, he looks totally lost, no emotion.

I stayed up and watched that whole game last night. Gotta feel good today DJ, you and Doogie. Do you or Doogie see any similarities between Dez and Owens. Not in the head case department but in playing style. I know I do. Both big motherfuckers who run with anger.

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

Joe Flacco is NOT a SB QB yet. He can make some excellent throws but I still think he’s fucking brain dead and not that great a QB overall, certainly not elite like he was talking at the beginning of the season. He’s got decent weapons?

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You know this is the year to me he would really have to step it up, he has the defense, the running game and the weapons on the outside. After that game yesterday I would have to agree with you on this. [/quote]

He played well in that playoff loss last year and we all saw that WO drop a very catchable
ball, not on him but like you mentioned, he had to make another jump. I just don’t like his body language, he looks totally lost, no emotion.

I stayed up and watched that whole game last night. Gotta feel good today DJ, you and Doogie. Do you or Doogie see any similarities between Dez and Owens. Not in the head case department but in playing style. I know I do. Both big motherfuckers who run with anger.

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Actually he reminds me more of Irvin but maybe that is the number. Owens was not as aggressive to go after the ball, he was more a yard after catch, if you hit him in stride. Dez is more attack the ball like Irvin was, he would dog fight you to get the ball.

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

He played well in that playoff loss last year and we all saw that WO drop a very catchable
ball,

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Wait, didn’t a DB slap that ball out of his hands? Oh yes, I believe he did.

[quote]gregron wrote:
Disappointing game as a Niners fan, almost though we were going to see another tie.

Right now, Kap is not the answer. I don’t think he’s ready and his innacuracy on a few wide open pass plays definitely cost them that game. Harbaugh could really be screwing the team with this coaching move. I like Kap and was high on him coming out of college but he’s not ready and isn’t going to win games for us with his arm.[/quote]

Kaepernick and Niners will be just fine. He made some poor decisions a couple times, but for every open throw he missed, which I only remember two of, he completed another throw that Smith does not ever pull the trigger on.

Plus, the guy responded well when faced with adversity, especially after the errant pitch to Ginn, which was a fucking stupid play call in that situation. After the fumble recovery he simply takes the team right back down the field for the go-ahead FG.

On top of that, the guy can make something out nothing, and Smith simply cannot do that and never has. Smith is horrible at escaping pressure in the pocket. However many sacks Kaepernick took could easily be doubled with Smith in there. Kaepernick doesn’t give any indication of being the type of player who doesn’t learn from his mistakes. I don’t think we’ll ever see him fail to stay in bounds late in the game like he did on that last drive in regulation.

And if Kaepernick can play with the same mental acumen that Smith does, then there is absolutely NOTHING that Smith does better than Kaepernick which means that there is NO reason to give Smith the nod. In a close, tight game against a quality team, I’ll still take Kaepernick, right now, over Smith if for no other reason than Kaepernick can make shit happen out there and Smith can’t.

What did you guys think of Costas’ little gun-control speech at halftime of the Eagles/Cowgirls game last night? I didn’t realize at first that he was actually quoting heavily from someone else’s article. Apparently he’s received a lot of criticism for his decidedly anti-gun stance, but also for simply bringing politics into people’s living rooms via a sporting event.

Personally, I don’t agree with most of his stance on gun-control at all, but at the same time I don’t see any problem bringing a political issue into a non-political forum like a football game. Like the article linked below mentions, politics and sports don’t exist in separate vacuums where the two never cross paths; the two bleed into each other all the time and I don’t really see any benefit to avoiding a political issue just because it has crept into the halftime segment of a football game between two dogshit teams.

I will say this however. The article I linked below has an interesting take on the issue, but there is one thing that I don’t agree with at all even though I’m not a gun-control man myself. The writer claims that Costas has essentially turned the issue into a black-and-white one when it has much more gray area than anything else. I have to disagree here; when someone shoots someone else with a gun in a domestic dispute, it’s a pretty absolute result that happens almost every time. The victim dies. There isn’t any gray area when a person can be killed instantaneously. Either the victim gets shot and survives or they die. There is no gray area there, dead or alive, black or white. The only gray area is how badly the victim is maimed if they get shot and survive.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

Joe Flacco is NOT a SB QB yet. He can make some excellent throws but I still think he’s fucking brain dead and not that great a QB overall, certainly not elite like he was talking at the beginning of the season. He’s got decent weapons?

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You know this is the year to me he would really have to step it up, he has the defense, the running game and the weapons on the outside. After that game yesterday I would have to agree with you on this. [/quote]

The Ravens’ D is average this year. Suggs is not 100%, Lewis is out, and they really miss Jarrett Johnson on the left side. Their secondary has never been a strength, but their inability to stop the run and pressure the QB has really hurt.

Flacco is in his fifth year, so this is pretty much as good as he’s going to get. He’s not a bust but he’s definitely not a stud that you can build a team around. I fully expect Baltimore to give him an extension at the end of the year though. They could do a LOT worse.

Interesting stats (to me):

Roethlisberger - 12 career games out of 137 (incl. playoffs) with <50% completions
Flacco - 15 games out of 85

Roethlisberger - 19 career games with >75% completions
Flacco - 3

Flacco’s highest single-game QB rating is 135.6. Roethlisberger has 3 perfect (158.3) games (one against Baltimore), plus one at 158.0.

Flacco just doesn’t have that high of a ceiling. He’s not terribly accurate and doesn’t handle pressure well. He does, to his credit, take care of the football; he’s had very few multi-INT games. Just 14/85 compared to 30/137 for Ben. So he’s not going to lose too many games because he sucks, but he’s not going to win too many because he’s great either.

[quote]gregron wrote:
Disappointing game as a Niners fan, almost though we were going to see another tie.

Right now, Kap is not the answer. I don’t think he’s ready and his innacuracy on a few wide open pass plays definitely cost them that game. Harbaugh could really be screwing the team with this coaching move. I like Kap and was high on him coming out of college but he’s not ready and isn’t going to win games for us with his arm.[/quote]

Smith!

[quote]gregron wrote:
Disappointing game as a Niners fan, almost though we were going to see another tie.

Right now, Kap is not the answer. I don’t think he’s ready and his innacuracy on a few wide open pass plays definitely cost them that game. Harbaugh could really be screwing the team with this coaching move. I like Kap and was high on him coming out of college but he’s not ready and isn’t going to win games for us with his arm.[/quote]

Well, I do question the logic of taking out your winning starting QB, during a winning season, facing a play-off birth, because your rookie is hot right now.

Nothing against Kaepernick, but he should start either the next season, or if Smith is hurt. There’s a huge gamble in Harbaugh’s decision which I don’t think is worth doing. He’ll end up looking like a genius or an idiot depending on how things shake out. You have a vet with play-off experience and has over come more adversity than most. He doesn’t quite have the tools that Kaepernick does, but he knows how to win you balls games.

If Kaepernick starts to crumble you throw in a disparaged Smith back in? He’s got the measurables, just not the experience.

That being said, I don’t want to face either QB in the play-offs. It’s not the QB I am worried about, it’s the defense.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

Joe Flacco is NOT a SB QB yet. He can make some excellent throws but I still think he’s fucking brain dead and not that great a QB overall, certainly not elite like he was talking at the beginning of the season. He’s got decent weapons?

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You know this is the year to me he would really have to step it up, he has the defense, the running game and the weapons on the outside. After that game yesterday I would have to agree with you on this. [/quote]

I agree, Flacco is looking flatto. Why, I have no idea. He’s got the tools and the team, I don’t get his inconsistency. I like Flacco. He reminds me a lot of Matt Ryan, just not as good. He must be across that thin red line.

Seattle has three of the four games left at home including home against the Niners. I’m starting to think there’s a chance they catch the Niners. Wilson is still making rookie mistakes, but fewer and fewer of them. This has been a pretty fun season for the Hawks so far.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
What did you guys think of Costas’ little gun-control speech at halftime of the Eagles/Cowgirls game last night? I didn’t realize at first that he was actually quoting heavily from someone else’s article. Apparently he’s received a lot of criticism for his decidedly anti-gun stance, but also for simply bringing politics into people’s living rooms via a sporting event.

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I think Costas needs to shut the fuck up. If he wants to do a political opinion blog he can go nuts. Using a tragedy like KC to rant your political opinions is cheap and petty. Respect the family of Cassandra Perkins and her now orphaned child and keep your personal political opinions to yourself.
In the end it doesn’t matter if he shot her or stabbed her, she’s still dead and so is he.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Actually he reminds me more of Irvin but maybe that is the number. Owens was not as aggressive to go after the ball, he was more a yard after catch, if you hit him in stride. Dez is more attack the ball like Irvin was, he would dog fight you to get the ball. [/quote]

If you had control over the Cowboys, what would you like to see happen there? What would you do? I am curious what you think is wrong.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
What did you guys think of Costas’ little gun-control speech at halftime of the Eagles/Cowgirls game last night? I didn’t realize at first that he was actually quoting heavily from someone else’s article. Apparently he’s received a lot of criticism for his decidedly anti-gun stance, but also for simply bringing politics into people’s living rooms via a sporting event.

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I think Costas needs to shut the fuck up. If he wants to do a political opinion blog he can go nuts. Using a tragedy like KC to rant your political opinions is cheap and petty. Respect the family of Cassandra Perkins and her now orphaned child and keep your personal political opinions to yourself.
In the end it doesn’t matter if he shot her or stabbed her, she’s still dead and so is he. [/quote]

Well put. Like I said, I don’t have a problem with bringing politics to a sports event. But you’re right, this was a horrible way to go about his little rant. Totally inappropriate to use this tragedy as a chance to get up on his high fucking zebra.

I mean, if Costas was so genuinely concerned with the gun-control issue, why the fuck has no one ever heard him say anything about it before? He’s had all the opportunities in the world to do so. I’ll tell you why. Costas is a fucking prick with no conviction behind anything that he shits out of that faggy little mouth of his.

I remember during the Beijing Olympics he could have used his platform there to speak out on some of the massive human rights and censorship issues going on in China at the time, not to mention some of their shady manipulating of their currency. But does he say anything at all? Fuck no, because he might cause a bit of a stir over there if he did. He’s a hack who cares only about an issue when it can directly benefit him.

Now he’s getting all this attention from everyone and he’s probably sitting in some fucking hot tub somewhere in West Hollywood with a smooth-skinned thirteen year-old boy he had shipped in from Bangladesh, just reveling in all the attention he’s getting right now just for being a classless jerk who basically got on his soapbox at an inappropriate time to, in part, criticize everyone else for using this incident to get on their soapbox and pontificate about the bigger meaning behind all of this or something. Two people are fucking dead. Does anyone really give a fuck about what Bob fucking Costas has to say about gun-control in light of this tragedy?

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
What did you guys think of Costas’ little gun-control speech at halftime of the Eagles/Cowgirls game last night? I didn’t realize at first that he was actually quoting heavily from someone else’s article. Apparently he’s received a lot of criticism for his decidedly anti-gun stance, but also for simply bringing politics into people’s living rooms via a sporting event.

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I think Costas needs to shut the fuck up. If he wants to do a political opinion blog he can go nuts. Using a tragedy like KC to rant your political opinions is cheap and petty. Respect the family of Cassandra Perkins and her now orphaned child and keep your personal political opinions to yourself.
In the end it doesn’t matter if he shot her or stabbed her, she’s still dead and so is he. [/quote]
Agreed