[quote]bond james bond wrote:
[quote]doogie wrote:
LOL! [/quote]
Haha, that was great.
What’s funny is he is wearing the ex-long snappers jersey, which should not be a pleasant memory for Browns fans.
'Morning Guys!
Been off the boards for a while because of work and just life in general, but finally have some time to jump back on. Especially for the sports threads.
Hope everyone is doing real well, looking forward to getting back in the conversations.
Well since we’ve been talking about the #1 pick from the 1998 draft, how about an article on the bust that happened at #2.
Thoughts on this? I think having a true minor league system for the NFL would be very interesting, although I’d be worried about the affect that it might have on the college game…
“San Diego businessman Jaime Cuadra plans to bring the USFL back as a true NFL minor league.
As opposed to the UFL, the new league will allow the NFL “unfettered access” to players, allowing them to be promoted at will like baseball’s minor leagues. Players will also receive salaries well beyond the level paid by the Arena League. The USFL is targeting markets that have neither NFL nor major-college football, such as Portland, San Jose, Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Memphis, Raleigh-Durham, Birmingham, Omaha, and Akron.”
-RotoWorld
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Thoughts on this? I think having a true minor league system for the NFL would be very interesting, although I’d be worried about the affect that it might have on the college game…
“San Diego businessman Jaime Cuadra plans to bring the USFL back as a true NFL minor league.
As opposed to the UFL, the new league will allow the NFL “unfettered access” to players, allowing them to be promoted at will like baseball’s minor leagues. Players will also receive salaries well beyond the level paid by the Arena League. The USFL is targeting markets that have neither NFL nor major-college football, such as Portland, San Jose, Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Memphis, Raleigh-Durham, Birmingham, Omaha, and Akron.”
-RotoWorld[/quote]
This will fail like it has every other time, there is WAY too much money in NCAA ball
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Thoughts on this? I think having a true minor league system for the NFL would be very interesting, although I’d be worried about the affect that it might have on the college game…
“San Diego businessman Jaime Cuadra plans to bring the USFL back as a true NFL minor league.
As opposed to the UFL, the new league will allow the NFL “unfettered access” to players, allowing them to be promoted at will like baseball’s minor leagues. Players will also receive salaries well beyond the level paid by the Arena League. The USFL is targeting markets that have neither NFL nor major-college football, such as Portland, San Jose, Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Memphis, Raleigh-Durham, Birmingham, Omaha, and Akron.”
-RotoWorld[/quote]
This will fail like it has every other time, there is WAY too much money in NCAA ball[/quote]
I don’t think this will work at all. Football isn’t a skill game as much as it’s a physical game. In baseball, for instance, the skill level required to play the game is SO much higher than football that it takes players several years to develop their skills well enough to play in the majors.
But the physical talent required to play baseball isn’t as high, hence players regularly playing into their late 30’s. In the NFL, it’s much different. It’s an easier sport to play, pure and simple, as evidenced by the much larger success rate that players have at younger ages. Many football players don’t even start playing until they’re in high school, whereas most pro baseball players have been playing since they were kids. On top of that, the average age of a rookie in the NFL making his debut is probably about 21. In the MLB it’s probably around 23 or 24, if not higher.
So the difficulties involved with football are based more on physical talent than skill development. If a player doesn’t quite make it in the NFL it’s more than likely that he isn’t big enough or strong enough or has some other issue that cannot be developed in a minor league system.
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Thoughts on this? I think having a true minor league system for the NFL would be very interesting, although I’d be worried about the affect that it might have on the college game…
“San Diego businessman Jaime Cuadra plans to bring the USFL back as a true NFL minor league.
As opposed to the UFL, the new league will allow the NFL “unfettered access” to players, allowing them to be promoted at will like baseball’s minor leagues. Players will also receive salaries well beyond the level paid by the Arena League. The USFL is targeting markets that have neither NFL nor major-college football, such as Portland, San Jose, Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Memphis, Raleigh-Durham, Birmingham, Omaha, and Akron.”
-RotoWorld[/quote]
Fuck yeah! Thats where Jim Kelly and Steve Young got their start. It would actually be potentially more exciting they didnt have the same rules as the NFL too. If only we got back the Houston Gamblers and we could play in the Astrodome again.
Btw,I disagree with everybody. This league has a good chance at succeeding when they aren’t directly competing with the NFL and the fact that no other football league plays during the Spring.
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Btw,I disagree with everybody. This league has a good chance at succeeding when they aren’t directly competing with the NFL and the fact that no other football league plays during the Spring. [/quote]
Unfortunately history is against you on this one.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Thoughts on this? I think having a true minor league system for the NFL would be very interesting, although I’d be worried about the affect that it might have on the college game…
“San Diego businessman Jaime Cuadra plans to bring the USFL back as a true NFL minor league.
As opposed to the UFL, the new league will allow the NFL “unfettered access” to players, allowing them to be promoted at will like baseball’s minor leagues. Players will also receive salaries well beyond the level paid by the Arena League. The USFL is targeting markets that have neither NFL nor major-college football, such as Portland, San Jose, Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Memphis, Raleigh-Durham, Birmingham, Omaha, and Akron.”
-RotoWorld[/quote]
This will fail like it has every other time, there is WAY too much money in NCAA ball[/quote]
I don’t think this will work at all. Football isn’t a skill game as much as it’s a physical game. In baseball, for instance, the skill level required to play the game is SO much higher than football that it takes players several years to develop their skills well enough to play in the majors.
But the physical talent required to play baseball isn’t as high, hence players regularly playing into their late 30’s. In the NFL, it’s much different. It’s an easier sport to play, pure and simple, as evidenced by the much larger success rate that players have at younger ages. Many football players don’t even start playing until they’re in high school, whereas most pro baseball players have been playing since they were kids. On top of that, the average age of a rookie in the NFL making his debut is probably about 21. In the MLB it’s probably around 23 or 24, if not higher.
So the difficulties involved with football are based more on physical talent than skill development. If a player doesn’t quite make it in the NFL it’s more than likely that he isn’t big enough or strong enough or has some other issue that cannot be developed in a minor league system.[/quote]
This. Good post.
with the CFL and arena leagues i think there is already the “minor” leagues… ask cameron wake, and kurt warner…
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
'Morning Guys!
Been off the boards for a while because of work and just life in general, but finally have some time to jump back on. Especially for the sports threads.
Hope everyone is doing real well, looking forward to getting back in the conversations.[/quote]
Its about fucking time. 
[quote]Vinnie85 wrote:
with the CFL and arena leagues i think there is already the “minor” leagues… ask cameron wake, and kurt warner… [/quote]
CFL = Rules are a bit different. Even watching small tidbits of the game,I couldnt get used to it.
Arena= Really? All i have to say is this.
they serve their purpose as “minor” leagues for players that don’t make it to the “big show” though…
i think the biggest issue with a NFL minor league would be money. Currently the minor league farm system is partially funded by the MLB with the Minors paying the MLB some % of ticket sales…
from “how stuff works” :
The Professional Baseball Agreement that binds the majors and minors was set to expire at the end of 1990. Under that agreement, the majors provided significant support for the minors. The majors proposed a reduction in those subsidies, claiming that the minors were healthy enough to pay more of their operational expenses. On the other hand, minor league clubs resented what they perceived as attempts to take financial advantage.
After the dust settled, most minors gave in, fearing they couldn’t survive without players provided by the majors. Under the new agreement, the majors would still pay most of the operational expenses, but minors were now required to pay a share of their ticket revenues to the majors, forego their share of big-league TV revenues and meet newly established minimum standards at their parks.
We definitely would only have a handful (8 teams perhaps) of “farm” teams if the NFL ever decided to have a minor league cuz it takes a lot more decent players to make a football team than a baseball team…
All I know about any of this minor league shit is that the Niners are already fucking stacked this year and they haven’t even hit the draft yet. No obvious needs to be filled that haven’t already been addressed in free agency, which means that they can just draft the best available player in each round. Based on how they drafted last year, I like their chances of coming away with at least a couple of immediate-impact guys. They’re the best fucking team in the NFC, hands down.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
They’re the best fucking team in the NFC, hands down.[/quote]
Ah yes good ole early-April optimism, gotta love it…
alex smith
[quote]Vinnie85 wrote:
they serve their purpose as “minor” leagues for players that don’t make it to the “big show” though…
i think the biggest issue with a NFL minor league would be money. Currently the minor league farm system is partially funded by the MLB with the Minors paying the MLB some % of ticket sales…
from “how stuff works” :
The Professional Baseball Agreement that binds the majors and minors was set to expire at the end of 1990. Under that agreement, the majors provided significant support for the minors. The majors proposed a reduction in those subsidies, claiming that the minors were healthy enough to pay more of their operational expenses. On the other hand, minor league clubs resented what they perceived as attempts to take financial advantage.
After the dust settled, most minors gave in, fearing they couldn’t survive without players provided by the majors. Under the new agreement, the majors would still pay most of the operational expenses, but minors were now required to pay a share of their ticket revenues to the majors, forego their share of big-league TV revenues and meet newly established minimum standards at their parks.
We definitely would only have a handful (8 teams perhaps) of “farm” teams if the NFL ever decided to have a minor league cuz it takes a lot more decent players to make a football team than a baseball team… [/quote]
College Football is the minors for the NFL, I know the pay sucks but it is what it is.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
All I know about any of this minor league shit is that the Niners are already fucking stacked this year and they haven’t even hit the draft yet. No obvious needs to be filled that haven’t already been addressed in free agency, which means that they can just draft the best available player in each round. Based on how they drafted last year, I like their chances of coming away with at least a couple of immediate-impact guys. They’re the best fucking team in the NFC, hands down.[/quote]
I totally fucking agree with you.
And, the biggest factor for the 9’ers, is don’t ever bet against a Harbaugh.