NFL 2011 Part III

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
…and that is how you get blown out. Turn the ball over and commit penalties. Picture fucking perfect.[/quote]

I had to work and missed the game. Will not watch. [/quote]

You aren’t the only one that missed it. I think half of Pittsburgh’s roster stayed home.

They outgained SF by 100 yds but turned the ball over 4 times. Once again the defense produced zero takeaways. Pittsburgh is now -11 in turnover differential this year, which is 3rd worst in the NFL. Meanwhile, the Niners are an amazing and league-leading +25.

Teams like the 2011 Steelers don’t win football games in January.[/quote]

No, they do not. I said awhile back, they’ll be just good enough to make the playoffs but ultimatly fall short.

The takeaways as you mentioned are awfull, no question, the last few years it was like a given, kinda got spoiled. Ike actually I think improved his stats lol. #1 or #2 pass defense but almost last in takeaways. Coach Lake needs to fix this.

I did pop into the nurses lounge a time or two to catch a bit on the tube. Caught Pittsburghs FG, checked back two minutes later an they’re showing a replay of Davis’s TD catch. James Farrior is a fucking liability in coverage, it’s painfull to watch.

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[quote]bond james bond wrote:
No, they do not. I said awhile back, they’ll be just good enough to make the playoffs but ultimatly fall short.

The takeaways as you mentioned are awfull, no question, the last few years it was like a given, kinda got spoiled. Ike actually I think improved his stats lol. #1 or #2 pass defense but almost last in takeaways. Coach Lake needs to fix this.

I did pop into the nurses lounge a time or two to catch a bit on the tube. Caught Pittsburghs FG, checked back two minutes later an they’re showing a replay of Davis’s TD catch. James Farrior is a fucking liability in coverage, it’s painfull to watch.
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Farrior is always going to liability when you ask him to cover an athlete like Davis. Timmons was also beat by Davis on a long pass early in the second half, but Ryan Clark made a great play and broke it up. There aren’t many LBs in the world that can cover that guy.

Also worth mentioning: The Steelers average starting field position was their own 15 yard line. The Niners punter played out of his fucking mind. That plus 4 turnovers is too much for any team to overcome.

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
No, they do not. I said awhile back, they’ll be just good enough to make the playoffs but ultimatly fall short.

The takeaways as you mentioned are awfull, no question, the last few years it was like a given, kinda got spoiled. Ike actually I think improved his stats lol. #1 or #2 pass defense but almost last in takeaways. Coach Lake needs to fix this.

I did pop into the nurses lounge a time or two to catch a bit on the tube. Caught Pittsburghs FG, checked back two minutes later an they’re showing a replay of Davis’s TD catch. James Farrior is a fucking liability in coverage, it’s painfull to watch.
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Farrior is always going to liability when you ask him to cover an athlete like Davis. Timmons was also beat by Davis on a long pass early in the second half, but Ryan Clark made a great play and broke it up. There aren’t many LBs in the world that can cover that guy.

Also worth mentioning: The Steelers average starting field position was their own 15 yard line. The Niners punter played out of his fucking mind. That plus 4 turnovers is too much for any team to overcome.[/quote]

Andy Lee always plays out of his mind. Lechler gets all the attention, but he isn’t kicking into shitstorm wind like Lee does every home game. He’s largely why the Niners’ opponents average the worst starting position in the NFL. Well, him and their defense.

I was at the game. It was intense, to say the least. Playoff atmosphere in the parking lot and the stadium. There were a lot of Steelers fans there, which was a bit disappointing. But I guess if you’re a hardcore fan and you decide at the beginning of the year that you want to go watch your team play on the road somewhere and you look at the schedule a trip out to San Francisco is a no-brainer. I doubt they have that problem in Houston or Nashville or Detroit or Jacksonville.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
No, they do not. I said awhile back, they’ll be just good enough to make the playoffs but ultimatly fall short.

The takeaways as you mentioned are awfull, no question, the last few years it was like a given, kinda got spoiled. Ike actually I think improved his stats lol. #1 or #2 pass defense but almost last in takeaways. Coach Lake needs to fix this.

I did pop into the nurses lounge a time or two to catch a bit on the tube. Caught Pittsburghs FG, checked back two minutes later an they’re showing a replay of Davis’s TD catch. James Farrior is a fucking liability in coverage, it’s painfull to watch.
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Farrior is always going to liability when you ask him to cover an athlete like Davis. Timmons was also beat by Davis on a long pass early in the second half, but Ryan Clark made a great play and broke it up. There aren’t many LBs in the world that can cover that guy.

Also worth mentioning: The Steelers average starting field position was their own 15 yard line. The Niners punter played out of his fucking mind. That plus 4 turnovers is too much for any team to overcome.[/quote]

Andy Lee always plays out of his mind. Lechler gets all the attention, but he isn’t kicking into shitstorm wind like Lee does every home game. He’s largely why the Niners’ opponents average the worst starting position in the NFL. Well, him and their defense.

I was at the game. It was intense, to say the least. Playoff atmosphere in the parking lot and the stadium. There were a lot of Steelers fans there, which was a bit disappointing. But I guess if you’re a hardcore fan and you decide at the beginning of the year that you want to go watch your team play on the road somewhere and you look at the schedule a trip out to San Francisco is a no-brainer. I doubt they have that problem in Houston or Nashville or Detroit or Jacksonville.[/quote]
The Steelers have some of the best traveling fans. Them alongside with the Packers.

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[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
No, they do not. I said awhile back, they’ll be just good enough to make the playoffs but ultimatly fall short.

The takeaways as you mentioned are awfull, no question, the last few years it was like a given, kinda got spoiled. Ike actually I think improved his stats lol. #1 or #2 pass defense but almost last in takeaways. Coach Lake needs to fix this.

I did pop into the nurses lounge a time or two to catch a bit on the tube. Caught Pittsburghs FG, checked back two minutes later an they’re showing a replay of Davis’s TD catch. James Farrior is a fucking liability in coverage, it’s painfull to watch.
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Farrior is always going to liability when you ask him to cover an athlete like Davis. Timmons was also beat by Davis on a long pass early in the second half, but Ryan Clark made a great play and broke it up. There aren’t many LBs in the world that can cover that guy.

Also worth mentioning: The Steelers average starting field position was their own 15 yard line. The Niners punter played out of his fucking mind. That plus 4 turnovers is too much for any team to overcome.[/quote]

Andy Lee always plays out of his mind. Lechler gets all the attention, but he isn’t kicking into shitstorm wind like Lee does every home game. He’s largely why the Niners’ opponents average the worst starting position in the NFL. Well, him and their defense.

I was at the game. It was intense, to say the least. Playoff atmosphere in the parking lot and the stadium. There were a lot of Steelers fans there, which was a bit disappointing. But I guess if you’re a hardcore fan and you decide at the beginning of the year that you want to go watch your team play on the road somewhere and you look at the schedule a trip out to San Francisco is a no-brainer. I doubt they have that problem in Houston or Nashville or Detroit or Jacksonville.[/quote]
The Steelers have some of the best traveling fans. Them alongside with the Packers.[/quote]

Of course those fans are. Have you ever been to Pittsburgh or Green Bay? They’re shitholes in the summertime and prolapsed assholes in the wintertime. I’d take every opportunity to get the fuck out of those hovels if I lived there, especially if meant traveling to a city like SF in the middle of December (gametime temp was 58 degrees with zero wind) to watch two of the all-time great franchises in the NFL play each other on MNF.

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lolololol go colts.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

Dallas +0.6: This should be a 10 win team if Romo hadn’t choked 2 of them away.

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Okay question, which two games?

As a Cowboy fan who watches every game in depth, our most glaring weakness has been our defense. Yes Romo has made some bad plays but name me one QB that has 16 perfect games?

We cant sit here and say that Tebow has won all those games by himself, so we also cant sit here and say that Romo has blown every game.

Just my .02[/quote]

It’s more than 2. They just cannot seem to finish off a game when they seemingly have it under control

Week 1 - Jets. Cowboys up 24-17 with 6:00 to go. 3 and out leads to a blocked punt and jets score. With 1:00 to go and score tied, Romo throws pass right to Revis which leads to Jets FG. Jets 27-24

Week 4 - Detroit. Cowboys up 27-3 in third quarter. Instead of running the ball and controlling the clock Romo throws 2 INTs and lets Lions back in the game. Also in 4th quarter with 3 point lead, Romo throws another pic which leads to Detroit score and 34-30 win

Week 6 - Patriots. 4th quarter, Cowboys have ball with 3 point lead and 3:36 left on clock. 3 and out gives Brady ball back with 2:31. You know the rest

Week 13 - Arizona heartbreaker - Romo did great on final drive to get to field goal range with 7 seconds left but the Garret iced his own kicker. AAAAAAAH. Cowboys lose in OT

Week 14 - Giants. After the Giants posted an unusual 5-0 lead, the Cowboys really controlled this game until the 4th qtr. Cowboys up 34-22 with Giants getting the ball with 5:41 left. Another late game 3 and out gave Eli the ball back with 2:12 left leading to another heartbreaking loss though Romo did get the cowboys within FG range with 46 seconds left

I am a biased Cowboy fan so I may be more critical than I should be but the only game they legitimately did not beat themselves was against the Eagles. Just hope they can go on a good run, control the game like they can, and go deep into the playoffs

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oh hei did sum1 say sumthing about the packers lolz

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]John Romaniello wrote:
You both makes good points.

Sanchez needs A LOT more protection to get better, so I think we just need to get started and draft a right tackle over ANY other priority next year.

Still, Marky is good. He’s not terrible. He’s not great. He’s a generally solid, middle of the pack QB with flashes of brilliance and plummets into ineptitude–both occurring with equal frequency.

When I say he’s “not the one” I mean he’s just not going to be the guy like Brady, or Rodgers. He’ll never be a QB that other teams fear. And that’s okay.

Anyplace other than NY and he’d be okay…this town is just like eating him alive.

With a great team around him, sure, he can win.
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He’s a sweetheart of a guy and I really want him to succeed.

Anyway, Keller’s wife: basically she said the same thing all of us say.

What I do know is that Keller and Sanchez are off the field boys. hang out all the time, totally got each others backs etc.

But, if DKs wife is bitching, then chances are DK is bitching to her. Which is a pretty big indictment on Sanchez.[/quote]

I say that Sanchize is not on the typical learning curve as most, he had a truncated college career and has been learning on the job. He had early success that was set up with the run. Normally takes 3 years as a starter to truly judge a QB, he may take an extra year or two. My .02

<------not a Jet fan :slight_smile: sorry the big three Jets lovers :slight_smile: [/quote]

This has been statistically his best year 27 total TD’s and 13 Int, better than many, and yes he has even dissapointed me at times and there arent many stronger supporters than me out there. Everything else Passer rating and completion % are all on the uptick and he gets the job done in the 4th quarter people like to forget how efficient he is in the 4th quarter.

Non Jet fans dont realize how bad their right guard situation has been, Sanchez has been getting killed out there because of Wayne Hunter and admittedly he tends to turtle a bit after the 3rd or 4th crushing hit. He definitley needs to be a better pocket passer but when you add everything up, below avg O-line, up until recently bad running game and what some may consider a shit OC he has made progress in his third year.

He will never be Peyton, Tom or Aaron, but I believe there is an excellent possibility he can be in the second tier of NFL and he is better than just a game manager.

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Hey I am a Cowboys fan Matty, you are not telling me anything I do not know.

Elite QB’s are a rare fucking occurrence, most people just do not fucking realize.

Left you a question in your log.[/quote]

No disrespect to your points above.

I just wanted to check if this was still your opinion after the most recent game?

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Looks like Jon Gruden plans on coming back to coaching. Curious where he lands. They say he is good friends with Charger GM AJ Smith so if Smith gets the boot or stays with them, Gruden may follow. Spagnuolo will most likely be fired as well and imo, that would be the best spot for anyone wanting to get a coaching job in the NFL. With Bradford at full health, a top draft pick(possibly 1st pick) , and the highest cap room of any team for next year, it would be an excellent welcome back present for him.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
No, they do not. I said awhile back, they’ll be just good enough to make the playoffs but ultimatly fall short.

The takeaways as you mentioned are awfull, no question, the last few years it was like a given, kinda got spoiled. Ike actually I think improved his stats lol. #1 or #2 pass defense but almost last in takeaways. Coach Lake needs to fix this.

I did pop into the nurses lounge a time or two to catch a bit on the tube. Caught Pittsburghs FG, checked back two minutes later an they’re showing a replay of Davis’s TD catch. James Farrior is a fucking liability in coverage, it’s painfull to watch.
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Farrior is always going to liability when you ask him to cover an athlete like Davis. Timmons was also beat by Davis on a long pass early in the second half, but Ryan Clark made a great play and broke it up. There aren’t many LBs in the world that can cover that guy.

Also worth mentioning: The Steelers average starting field position was their own 15 yard line. The Niners punter played out of his fucking mind. That plus 4 turnovers is too much for any team to overcome.[/quote]

Andy Lee always plays out of his mind. Lechler gets all the attention, but he isn’t kicking into shitstorm wind like Lee does every home game. He’s largely why the Niners’ opponents average the worst starting position in the NFL. Well, him and their defense.

I was at the game. It was intense, to say the least. Playoff atmosphere in the parking lot and the stadium. There were a lot of Steelers fans there, which was a bit disappointing. But I guess if you’re a hardcore fan and you decide at the beginning of the year that you want to go watch your team play on the road somewhere and you look at the schedule a trip out to San Francisco is a no-brainer. I doubt they have that problem in Houston or Nashville or Detroit or Jacksonville.[/quote]
The Steelers have some of the best traveling fans. Them alongside with the Packers.[/quote]

Of course those fans are. Have you ever been to Pittsburgh or Green Bay? They’re shitholes in the summertime and prolapsed assholes in the wintertime. I’d take every opportunity to get the fuck out of those hovels if I lived there, especially if meant traveling to a city like SF in the middle of December (gametime temp was 58 degrees with zero wind) to watch two of the all-time great franchises in the NFL play each other on MNF.[/quote]

Thousands of homosexuals lIke you clearly love that Cali weather. Funny the franchise with the most championships and has the Superbowl winning trophy named after its legendary coach isn’t considered an all time great franchise.

You clearly know nothing about football. Actually Green Bay is a great city if low crime and family values are your thing. Of course if your looking to roll on E and get fucked in the ass San Fran is clearly your cup of tea.

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This site clearly has great training info but is low on NFL intelligence. Good grief

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[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Looks like Jon Gruden plans on coming back to coaching. Curious where he lands. They say he is good friends with Charger GM AJ Smith so if Smith gets the boot or stays with them, Gruden may follow. Spagnuolo will most likely be fired as well and imo, that would be the best spot for anyone wanting to get a coaching job in the NFL. With Bradford at full health, a top draft pick(possibly 1st pick) , and the highest cap room of any team for next year, it would be an excellent welcome back present for him. [/quote]

St. Louis does have some serious potential. They do have the d-line that’s suited for the 4-3 better, which I’m sure Gruden is still an advocate of, so that would be an easy way to start working towards building his team without much expense. SD could make the switch fairly easily, though.

I still think that all the Florida teams are fairly desirable circumstances, to be honest - yes, even Jacksonville, lol.

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[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Looks like Jon Gruden plans on coming back to coaching. Curious where he lands. They say he is good friends with Charger GM AJ Smith so if Smith gets the boot or stays with them, Gruden may follow. Spagnuolo will most likely be fired as well and imo, that would be the best spot for anyone wanting to get a coaching job in the NFL. With Bradford at full health, a top draft pick(possibly 1st pick) , and the highest cap room of any team for next year, it would be an excellent welcome back present for him. [/quote]

St. Louis does have some serious potential. They do have the d-line that’s suited for the 4-3 better, which I’m sure Gruden is still an advocate of, so that would be an easy way to start working towards building his team without much expense. SD could make the switch fairly easily, though.

I still think that all the Florida teams are fairly desirable circumstances, to be honest - yes, even Jacksonville, lol.[/quote]

Well no matter what we think, NBCSports.com just reported that ESPN released a statement that he will stay true to his contract and continue working with them. Damn shame.

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When Norv gets fired, i’m pretty sure the Chargers won’t go with a big name guy.

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Pro Bowl rosters are out. How does Eli Manning make it instead of Matthew Stafford?

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[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Pro Bowl rosters are out. How does Eli Manning make it instead of Matthew Stafford?[/quote]
Wondered that myself. Manning was underrated this year and performed quite well but Stafford has been a great leader for Detroit. They havent had a QB like him in quite some time.

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[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Pro Bowl rosters are out. How does Eli Manning make it instead of Matthew Stafford?[/quote]

While Stafford deserved to make it as well, Eli had a tremendous year and is basically willing them to the playoffs with a crap O-line, crap defense and erratic running game

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Pro Bowl rosters are out. How does Eli Manning make it instead of Matthew Stafford?[/quote]

While Stafford deserved to make it as well, Eli had a tremendous year and is basically willing them to the playoffs with a crap O-line, crap defense and erratic running game
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I’m not saying Eli didn’t play good, it’s just that Stafford has had a break out year. His stats are all almost better than Eli’s. That plus his team has a better record, led the Lions to the playoffs for the first time in 12 years, and played in one of the toughest divisions(well until Cutler got hurt.)