Next Cycle - Need Advice

Hi everyone,

I’ve been surfing here for quite some time now and just decided to post.

I am right into a winstrol/t3/clen cycle which will end in a month now (3 weeks out of the 4 50mg/ED winny) then 2-3 weeks clen/pct(20mg nolva ED) finish.

As of now i am really impressed by my results. I’m 25 5"8 training naturally for 6 solid years (4y break in between) and started the cycle at 6% BF, 164 lbs. Right now i’m down to 4% 170 and with some nice vascularity going on, hard as nails, exactly as i had pictured it! No sides so far. I am on a TKD with some carb-refeeds once a week or so. feeling invicible energy wise and such.

Now comes the next cycle for september in mind…

here it is, i have some 1-2 things to tweak and would like your opinion. Been doing extensive research on a daily basis

Test E 500mg/w 1-10 (250e3d) (was thinking 12 weeks but it gets quite pricey)
Dbol kickstart wk 1=15mg/d wk2+3=20/d wk4=15/d (don’t mind the taper it’s just so i can do this with a single 100bottle)
Primo depot 300mg/w 6-10.

also for control
nolvadex 20mg/d 1-10 (+pct and maybe some HCG exact dosages to be exactly determined with clomid 2-3 weeks after last inj)
Proviron 6-10 50mg/d-- This is one of my questions for now. Would you run the Proviron longer or earlier?

My goal with this is to put on maybe 15lbs without too much fat gain
of course diet and training in check, i’m weighting and counting everything monitoring BF weight BP etc…
thx for your help

[quote]tili wrote:
Hi everyone,

I’ve been surfing here for quite some time now and just decided to post.

I am right into a winstrol/t3/clen cycle which will end in a month now (3 weeks out of the 4 50mg/ED winny) then 2-3 weeks clen/pct(20mg nolva ED) finish.

As of now i am really impressed by my results. I’m 25 5"8 training naturally for 6 solid years (4y break in between) and started the cycle at 6% BF, 164 lbs. Right now i’m down to 4% 170 and with some nice vascularity going on, hard as nails, exactly as i had pictured it! No sides so far. I am on a TKD with some carb-refeeds once a week or so. feeling invicible energy wise and such.

Now comes the next cycle for september in mind…

here it is, i have some 1-2 things to tweak and would like your opinion. Been doing extensive research on a daily basis

Test E 500mg/w 1-10 (250e3d) (was thinking 12 weeks but it gets quite pricey)
Dbol kickstart wk 1=15mg/d wk2+3=20/d wk4=15/d (don’t mind the taper it’s just so i can do this with a single 100bottle)
Primo depot 300mg/w 6-10.

also for control
nolvadex 20mg/d 1-10 (+pct and maybe some HCG exact dosages to be exactly determined with clomid 2-3 weeks after last inj)
Proviron 6-10 50mg/d-- This is one of my questions for now. Would you run the Proviron longer or earlier?

My goal with this is to put on maybe 15lbs without too much fat gain
of course diet and training in check, i’m weighting and counting everything monitoring BF weight BP etc…
thx for your help[/quote]

test=pricey?? since when? why dont you drop the primo thatd cut down on cost. 15 and 20 mgs d-bol isnt worth your time IMO dont run a cycle until you have everything you need. Nolvadex ED isnt needed. get some a-dex and use that for any E related sides that may occur. Also NEVER run HCG during PCT. i think your overall a little sporadic.

you’re right…Better do this thing right since i still have a couple of months left

Running 25-30mg of dbol a day and adding two weeks of test E be better. The ED nolva is because i’m really prone to gyno. I got some from puberty. Would running 6 weeks of primo in the end give a much better result than dropping it? Or is just not worth it?

Without knowing the rest of your cycle history I’d make the following remarks:
Forget Primo, especially if you are worried about the price of test. Like Game said 30mg of dbol is really an/the entry level dosage. So I’d be at this point minimum. Nolva won’t be needed on cycle. Regarding proviron, 4 weeks of 50mg ED is the same as 8 weeks of 25mg ED. I concur with the practice of not needing or using proviron from the first day of test. But you could run your weeks 3-10 at 25mg ED. 250mg of TestE E3D is actually what like 583mg a week. At that dosage level 25mg of proviron will still be enough to exert its effect.